0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:15,074 Arr MEX 1975-02-11 No Sex Life in the Spirit Soul 1 00:00:15,075 --> 00:00:17,589 ANNOUNCER: The following is an arrival address 2 00:00:17,590 --> 00:00:23,533 given by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, 3 00:00:23,534 --> 00:00:42,420 recorded on the 11th of February, 1975, in Mexico. 4 00:00:42,421 --> 00:00:46,960 PRABHUPĀDA: My dear devotees, ladies and gentlemen, 5 00:00:46,961 --> 00:00:53,366 I am very glad to see you again, I think, after four years? 6 00:00:53,367 --> 00:00:56,141 Three years. 7 00:00:56,142 --> 00:01:00,037 I was trying to come here again—I like this place— 8 00:01:00,038 --> 00:01:08,497 but due to various engagements and due to my old age also, 9 00:01:08,498 --> 00:01:11,993 I could not come earlier. 10 00:01:11,994 --> 00:01:19,418 But this time, by the arrangement of our Hṛdayānanda Mahārāja, 11 00:01:19,419 --> 00:01:25,223 I have been forced to come here. 12 00:01:25,224 --> 00:01:29,093 So I must thank you for your nice reception. 13 00:01:29,094 --> 00:01:34,099 I was received by police escort very nicely, 14 00:01:34,100 --> 00:01:39,638 and I remember once I traveled 15 00:01:39,639 --> 00:01:49,793 with the governor of UP in 1962 from Lucknow to Kanpur. 16 00:01:49,794 --> 00:01:59,894 So exactly we were driving in the same fashion, escorted by the police motorcycle. 17 00:01:59,895 --> 00:02:03,539 So anyway, I am so pleased to see you, 18 00:02:03,540 --> 00:02:07,947 that you are interested in Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. 19 00:02:07,948 --> 00:02:18,502 So the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is very, very important for the human society. 20 00:02:18,503 --> 00:02:27,813 It is not exactly a religious movement as it is understood in the Western countries. 21 00:02:27,814 --> 00:02:36,115 Religion is described in the English dictionary as “a kind of faith.” 22 00:02:36,116 --> 00:02:45,081 Faith you may accept or may not accept, but religion is the word, 23 00:02:45,082 --> 00:02:51,380 as we understand from Sanskrit dictionary, it cannot be rejected. 24 00:02:51,381 --> 00:02:56,815 Or you and your religion cannot be separated. 25 00:02:56,816 --> 00:03:05,207 Therefore we should understand very clearly that we are experiencing two things: 26 00:03:05,208 --> 00:03:09,690 one is matter, and another is spirit. 27 00:03:09,691 --> 00:03:14,730 Just like there is a stone, and there is a small ant. 28 00:03:14,731 --> 00:03:19,893 The stone, it may be very big, but it cannot move. 29 00:03:19,894 --> 00:03:21,671 It has no life. 30 00:03:21,672 --> 00:03:26,925 But the small ant, although it is very small, it has life. 31 00:03:26,926 --> 00:03:30,604 So there are two things, we can very easily understand: 32 00:03:30,605 --> 00:03:35,767 one is dead matter, and the other is living force. 33 00:03:35,768 --> 00:03:38,743 We are actually living force. 34 00:03:38,744 --> 00:03:45,746 Living force, we are covered by the matter, 35 00:03:45,747 --> 00:03:50,235 and according to the different types of covering, 36 00:03:50,236 --> 00:03:54,736 we are representing different types of living condition. 37 00:03:54,737 --> 00:04:05,768 So this living force, being encaged by the dead matter, it is a struggle for existence. 38 00:04:05,769 --> 00:04:14,115 The living force trying to get out of the material encagement, 39 00:04:14,116 --> 00:04:16,781 that is called struggle for existence. 40 00:04:16,782 --> 00:04:21,821 The living force by nature is jubilant. 41 00:04:21,822 --> 00:04:29,326 The supreme living force is God, Kṛṣṇa, and we are part and parcel of the living force. 42 00:04:29,327 --> 00:04:35,135 That is stated in the Bhagavad- gītā, two kinds of energies: 43 00:04:35,136 --> 00:04:38,138 one material energy, one spiritual energy. 44 00:04:38,139 --> 00:04:46,103 The material energy is earth, water, air, fire, sky, mind, intelligence, etc., 45 00:04:46,104 --> 00:04:49,203 and the spiritual energy is the living force 46 00:04:49,204 --> 00:04:55,895 which is trying to lord it over the material energy. 47 00:04:55,896 --> 00:04:57,131 So, 48 00:04:57,132 --> 00:05:01,323 apareyam itas tu… viddhi me prakṛtiṁ parām 49 00:05:01,324 --> 00:05:05,864 jīva-bhūtāṁ mahā-bāho yayedaṁ dhāryate jagat [Bg. 7.5] 50 00:05:05,865 --> 00:05:12,250 Kṛṣṇa says that “This material energy is inferior, 51 00:05:12,251 --> 00:05:15,646 and the superior energy is the living being.” 52 00:05:15,647 --> 00:05:19,630 So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is 53 00:05:19,631 --> 00:05:27,289 trying to help the living being to come out of the encagement of material energy. 54 00:05:27,290 --> 00:05:34,743 And how to become free, that information is in the Vedic literature. 55 00:05:34,744 --> 00:05:40,470 So what we are giving in different literatures… 56 00:05:40,471 --> 00:05:43,001 We are publishing books and magazines. 57 00:05:43,002 --> 00:05:46,286 Simply we are trying to give information 58 00:05:46,287 --> 00:05:54,784 how the superior living being can get out of this material encagement. 59 00:05:54,785 --> 00:06:02,940 So I am very glad to see you, so many Kṛṣṇa’s part and parcel. 60 00:06:02,941 --> 00:06:06,810 You have come to understand Kṛṣṇa consciousness. 61 00:06:06,811 --> 00:06:12,682 So stick to the principles, then your life will be successful. 62 00:06:12,683 --> 00:06:17,025 The principle is to purify ourself. 63 00:06:17,026 --> 00:06:25,080 Just like when a man becomes sick, he has to purify himself by regulative principle, 64 00:06:25,081 --> 00:06:30,660 by diet, by medicine, similarly, we have got this material disease, 65 00:06:30,661 --> 00:06:37,736 covered by the material body, and the symptom of miseries are birth, 66 00:06:37,737 --> 00:06:40,301 death, old age and disease. 67 00:06:40,302 --> 00:06:48,176 So one who is serious about getting out of this material bondage and free from birth, 68 00:06:48,177 --> 00:06:54,075 death, old age and disease, so he must take to this Kṛṣṇa consciousness. 69 00:06:54,076 --> 00:06:56,561 It is very simple and easy. 70 00:06:56,562 --> 00:07:00,004 If you do not know, if you are not educated, 71 00:07:00,005 --> 00:07:05,944 if you have no asset, you can simply chant the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra, 72 00:07:05,945 --> 00:07:12,547 and if you are educated, logician, philosopher, you can read our books, 73 00:07:12,548 --> 00:07:16,417 which are already in fifty in number. 74 00:07:16,418 --> 00:07:20,373 There will be about seventy-five books of four hundred pages 75 00:07:20,374 --> 00:07:23,392 to convince the philosopher, 76 00:07:23,393 --> 00:07:27,712 scientist, educationist what is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. 77 00:07:27,713 --> 00:07:33,112 It is published in English as well as in other European languages. 78 00:07:33,113 --> 00:07:34,721 Take advantage of it. 79 00:07:34,722 --> 00:07:42,472 Along with the Deity worship in this temple, hold classes at least five hours. 80 00:07:42,473 --> 00:07:48,131 As in the schools and colleges there are regular classes, forty-five minutes’ class, 81 00:07:48,132 --> 00:07:52,293 then five or ten minutes’ recess, again forty-five minutes’ class, 82 00:07:52,294 --> 00:07:59,628 in this way, so we have got enough subject matter to study, 83 00:07:59,629 --> 00:08:08,414 and if we study all these books, to finish them it will take at least twenty-five years. 84 00:08:08,415 --> 00:08:10,428 So you are all young men. 85 00:08:10,429 --> 00:08:16,627 I request you to engage your time in reading books, in chanting, 86 00:08:16,628 --> 00:08:21,892 in Deity worshiping, in going to preach, selling books. 87 00:08:21,893 --> 00:08:23,299 Don’t be lazy. 88 00:08:23,300 --> 00:08:25,379 Always remain engaged. 89 00:08:25,380 --> 00:08:28,484 Then that is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. 90 00:08:28,485 --> 00:08:30,835 Kṛṣṇa says in the Bhagavad-gītā, 91 00:08:30,836 --> 00:08:35,297 māṁ hi pārtha vyapāśritya ye ’pi syuḥ pāpa-yonayaḥ 92 00:08:35,298 --> 00:08:40,072 striyo vaiśyās tathā śūdrās te ’pi yānti parāṁ gatim [Bg. 9.32] 93 00:08:40,073 --> 00:08:44,009 There is no discrimination that “This man should be allowed. 94 00:08:44,010 --> 00:08:46,011 This woman should not be allowed.” 95 00:08:46,012 --> 00:08:47,148 No. 96 00:08:47,149 --> 00:08:49,477 Kṛṣṇa says, “Anyone.” 97 00:08:49,478 --> 00:08:55,034 striyaḥ vaiśyās tathā śūdrās Anyone who takes to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, 98 00:08:55,035 --> 00:09:00,546 he becomes free from the material bondage and goes back to Godhead, 99 00:09:00,547 --> 00:09:02,043 back to home. 100 00:09:02,044 --> 00:09:07,454 So take seriously about this movement and execute the principle, 101 00:09:07,455 --> 00:09:14,980 namely no meat-eating, no illicit sex, no intoxication, no gambling, 102 00:09:14,981 --> 00:09:17,884 and chant sixteen rounds. 103 00:09:17,885 --> 00:09:18,496 That’s all right. 104 00:09:18,497 --> 00:09:22,958 Now, if there are any questions from them… [break] 105 00:09:22,959 --> 00:09:28,774 HṚDAYĀNANDA: If everyone is spirit soul, then isn’t sex life also spiritual? 106 00:09:28,775 --> 00:09:35,555 Well, sex life… There is no sex life in the spirit soul. 107 00:09:35,556 --> 00:09:38,750 Sex life is in the material body. 108 00:09:38,751 --> 00:09:44,521 We are not this body, but because we are in this body, 109 00:09:44,522 --> 00:09:50,067 therefore we are thinking pleasure of the body is pleasure of the soul. 110 00:09:50,068 --> 00:09:57,174 Just like when you are sitting in a nice car, if the car is damaged, 111 00:09:57,175 --> 00:10:01,053 the proprietor thinks that he is damaged. 112 00:10:01,054 --> 00:10:04,777 But actually he is not damaged; the car is damaged. 113 00:10:04,778 --> 00:10:08,895 It is due to our false identification with the body. 114 00:10:08,896 --> 00:10:13,001 Therefore we think that sex life is a pleasure. 115 00:10:13,002 --> 00:10:19,874 But so long we are in this body, sex life is not prohibited, but it is regulated. 116 00:10:19,875 --> 00:10:24,644 By regulative principle, gradually we can give up sex life. 117 00:10:24,645 --> 00:10:27,400 Therefore there are four orders of life. 118 00:10:27,401 --> 00:10:29,786 The beginning is brahmacārī. 119 00:10:29,787 --> 00:10:37,661 There it is very nicely taught how to remain free from material encagement. 120 00:10:37,662 --> 00:10:46,930 But if one is unable to take immediately spiritual activity, he is allowed to marry. 121 00:10:46,931 --> 00:10:50,429 The married life is regulated sex life. 122 00:10:50,430 --> 00:10:54,619 Then, after fiftieth year, one has to give up this. 123 00:10:54,620 --> 00:11:01,915 In that stage, vānaprastha stage, the wife is there, but there is no sex life. 124 00:11:01,916 --> 00:11:09,352 So in this way, when one becomes very strongly fit not to desire for sex life, 125 00:11:09,353 --> 00:11:11,196 then he takes sannyāsa. 126 00:11:11,197 --> 00:11:16,466 That is the perfect stage of life for spiritual advancement of life. 127 00:11:16,467 --> 00:11:17,793 Who are we? 128 00:11:17,794 --> 00:11:19,852 Why are we here and where are we going? 129 00:11:19,853 --> 00:11:21,922 You are all living entities. 130 00:11:21,923 --> 00:11:23,407 You wanted to come here. 131 00:11:23,408 --> 00:11:27,109 Just like I wanted to come in your city—I have come here— 132 00:11:27,110 --> 00:11:31,743 similarly, you wanted to come to the material world and enjoy. 133 00:11:31,744 --> 00:11:38,901 So because you wanted to enjoy this material world, you have come here. 134 00:11:38,902 --> 00:11:44,019 Kṛṣṇa has allowed to come here, and you are trying to enjoy this material world. 135 00:11:44,020 --> 00:11:46,213 That is called struggle for existence. 136 00:11:46,214 --> 00:11:49,397 But you’ll never be happy with this material world. 137 00:11:49,398 --> 00:11:52,367 It is simply a struggle for existence. 138 00:11:52,368 --> 00:11:56,102 Therefore you should go back to home, back to Godhead. 139 00:11:56,103 --> 00:11:58,273 Then you’ll be happy. [break] 140 00:11:58,274 --> 00:12:01,220 …material desires are an obstacle in our devotional service. 141 00:12:01,221 --> 00:12:05,484 By engaging yourself in spiritual activity. 142 00:12:05,485 --> 00:12:11,640 That’s all. 143 00:12:11,641 --> 00:12:11,642 Subtitles by Pratyatoṣa Dāsa, Causelessmercy.com