0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,001 Bg 16-06 HAW 1975-02-02 Education in Becoming Divine 1 00:00:00,002 --> 00:00:22,144 ANNOUNCER: Following is a class on the Bhagavad-gītā As It Is, 16th chapter, text number 6, given by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, recorded on February 2nd, 1975, in Honolulu, Hawaii. 2 00:00:22,145 --> 00:00:27,555 NITĀI: “O son of Pṛthā, in this world there are two kinds of created beings. 3 00:00:27,556 --> 00:00:31,531 One is called the divine and the other is the demoniac. 4 00:00:31,532 --> 00:00:34,981 I have already explained to you at length the divine qualities. 5 00:00:34,982 --> 00:00:41,734 Now hear from Me of the demoniac.” 6 00:00:41,735 --> 00:00:57,807 PRABHUPĀDA: Dvau bhūta-sargau loke ’smin daiva āsura eva ca daivo vistaraśaḥ prokta āsuraṁ pārtha me śṛṇu [?]. 7 00:00:57,808 --> 00:01:11,421 Bhagavān Śrī Kṛṣṇa is addressing Arjuna as… 8 00:01:11,422 --> 00:01:42,272 Sometimes He addresses him as Bhārata, “the descendant of the Bharata dynasty,” and sometimes He addresses him as Pārtha, and sometimes He addresses him, Dhanañjaya, His friend. 9 00:01:42,273 --> 00:01:48,425 This time He addresses him as Pārtha. 10 00:01:48,426 --> 00:01:54,811 Pārtha means his mother’s name was Pṛthā. 11 00:01:54,812 --> 00:01:59,777 From Pṛthā, the word Pārtha comes. 12 00:01:59,778 --> 00:02:08,988 His mother happened to be Kṛṣṇa’s father’s sister. 13 00:02:08,989 --> 00:02:22,463 So very intimately and friendly, He addresses him as Pārtha, “My dear son of My aunt.” 14 00:02:22,464 --> 00:02:26,141 That means “We have got very intimate relationship. 15 00:02:26,142 --> 00:02:30,985 Not only we are friends, but we have got family relationship. 16 00:02:30,986 --> 00:02:43,242 So therefore I am speaking you about the truth that there are two classes of living beings.” 17 00:02:43,243 --> 00:02:51,048 Two classes of living beings, dvau. 18 00:02:51,049 --> 00:02:52,697 Dvau means two. 19 00:02:52,698 --> 00:03:11,183 One class is called daiva, or divine, divine nature, and the other class is called demonic nature, āsura. 20 00:03:11,184 --> 00:03:35,055 So in Viṣṇu-Purāṇa there is also reference to this context where it is said, dvau bhūta-sargau loke ’smin daiva āsura eva ca viṣṇu-bhakto bhaved daiva asuras tad-viparyayaḥ Daiva [?]. 21 00:03:35,056 --> 00:03:41,133 means generally viṣṇu-bhakta. 22 00:03:41,134 --> 00:03:46,229 Viṣṇu means the Supreme Lord who is all-pervasive. 23 00:03:46,230 --> 00:03:49,205 Everywhere He is present. 24 00:03:49,206 --> 00:04:06,444 Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Lord, He is Viṣṇu also in His Paramātmā feature. 25 00:04:06,445 --> 00:04:10,522 Kṛṣṇa has got three features. 26 00:04:10,523 --> 00:04:14,628 Brahmeti paramātmeti bhagavān iti śabdyate [?]. 27 00:04:14,629 --> 00:04:23,124 Kṛṣṇa, the Absolute Truth, He is known in three features or three angle of visions. 28 00:04:23,125 --> 00:04:30,582 One is Brahman, all-pervasive Brahman. 29 00:04:30,583 --> 00:04:34,475 Sarvedam akhilaṁ jagat. 30 00:04:34,476 --> 00:04:42,448 So Brahman means His effulgence, bodily rays. 31 00:04:42,449 --> 00:04:46,926 Yasya prabhā prabhavato jagad-aṇḍa-koṭi [Bs. 5.40]. 32 00:04:46,927 --> 00:04:51,746 His prabhā, His bodily rays… 33 00:04:51,747 --> 00:04:55,335 You may ask, “What is that bodily rays?” 34 00:04:55,336 --> 00:04:57,878 You can see every day. 35 00:04:57,879 --> 00:05:04,029 Everyone has got bodily rays according to his quality. 36 00:05:04,030 --> 00:05:09,994 You see the sun, the bodily rays, the sunshine. 37 00:05:09,995 --> 00:05:18,711 There is sun-god within the sun globe whose name is Vivasvān. 38 00:05:18,712 --> 00:05:21,445 That is also mentioned in the Bhagavad-gītā. 39 00:05:21,446 --> 00:05:32,959 Imaṁ vivasvate yogaṁ proktavān aham avyayam vivasvān manave prāha manur ikṣvākave ’bravīt [Bg. 4.1]. 40 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,216 Evaṁ paramparā-prāptam imaṁ rājarṣayo viduḥ [Bg. 4.2]. 41 00:05:37,217 --> 00:05:43,476 So exactly like that. 42 00:05:43,477 --> 00:05:55,268 Here sun is an insignificant part, creation, of the Lord. 43 00:05:55,269 --> 00:06:07,208 And the sun has got so much effulgence, bodily rays, that it is illuminating and heating the whole universe. 44 00:06:07,209 --> 00:06:11,188 You cannot deny it. 45 00:06:11,189 --> 00:06:14,964 This is the position of the sun. 46 00:06:14,965 --> 00:06:23,378 And there are millions and trillions of suns, each one sometimes bigger than this sun. 47 00:06:23,379 --> 00:06:26,634 This is the smallest sun. 48 00:06:26,635 --> 00:06:28,707 There are bigger, bigger suns. 49 00:06:28,708 --> 00:06:34,733 So we can understand what is the bodily rays. 50 00:06:34,734 --> 00:06:36,703 There is no difficulty. 51 00:06:36,704 --> 00:06:42,188 That bodily rays of Kṛṣṇa is called Brahman. 52 00:06:42,189 --> 00:06:58,180 Yasya prabhā prabhavato jagad-aṇḍa-koṭi-koṭiṣu vasudhādi-vibhūti-bhinnam [?], tad brahma: [Bs. 5.40] “That is Brahman, that prabhā. 53 00:06:58,181 --> 00:07:10,768 So similarly, Kṛṣṇa is present in everyone’s heart, localized. 54 00:07:10,769 --> 00:07:14,572 This is impersonal expansion. 55 00:07:14,573 --> 00:07:30,285 Just like sunshine is impersonal expansion of the sun rays, so similarly, Brahman effulgence is the impersonal expansion of Kṛṣṇa’s bodily rays. 56 00:07:30,286 --> 00:07:42,870 And the portion by which He is present everywhere, aṇḍāntara-stha-paramāṇu-cayāntara-stham… [?]. 57 00:07:42,871 --> 00:07:45,607 He is within this universe. 58 00:07:45,608 --> 00:07:48,839 He is within your heart, within my heart. 59 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,758 He is within everything. 60 00:07:50,759 --> 00:07:55,625 “Everything” means even within the atom, paramāṇu. 61 00:07:55,626 --> 00:08:01,594 That is His Paramātmā feature. 62 00:08:01,595 --> 00:08:11,496 And the last and ultimate feature is Kṛṣṇa’s personal body. 63 00:08:11,497 --> 00:08:13,566 Sac-cid-ānanda-vigrahaḥ [?]. 64 00:08:13,567 --> 00:08:18,669 Īśvaraḥ paramaḥ kṛṣṇaḥ sac-cid-ānanda-vigrahaḥ [Bs. 5.1]. 65 00:08:18,670 --> 00:08:20,300 Vigrahaḥ means form. 66 00:08:20,301 --> 00:08:23,840 That form is not like ours. 67 00:08:23,841 --> 00:08:28,723 That is sat, cit, ānanda. 68 00:08:28,724 --> 00:08:34,940 The body has also three features. 69 00:08:34,941 --> 00:08:40,861 Sat means eternal. 70 00:08:40,862 --> 00:08:46,320 So therefore, His body is distinct from our body. 71 00:08:46,321 --> 00:08:52,735 Our, this body is not eternal within the history. 72 00:08:52,736 --> 00:09:02,172 When this body is created by the father and mother, there is a date, beginning. 73 00:09:02,173 --> 00:09:11,381 And when this body is finished, annihilated, there is another date. 74 00:09:11,382 --> 00:09:15,565 So anything within the dates, that is history. 75 00:09:15,566 --> 00:09:20,526 But Kṛṣṇa is not like that. 76 00:09:20,527 --> 00:09:23,125 Anādi. 77 00:09:23,126 --> 00:09:28,993 You cannot estimate when Kṛṣṇa’s body began. 78 00:09:28,994 --> 00:09:30,564 Anādi. 79 00:09:30,565 --> 00:09:33,819 Ādi, again ādi. 80 00:09:33,820 --> 00:09:35,645 He is the beginning of everyone. 81 00:09:35,646 --> 00:09:37,832 Anādi. 82 00:09:37,833 --> 00:09:43,405 He Himself is anādi; nobody can find out what is the date of His appearance. 83 00:09:43,406 --> 00:09:48,926 He is beyond history. 84 00:09:48,927 --> 00:09:52,683 So but He is the beginning of everyone. 85 00:09:52,684 --> 00:09:57,917 Just like my father is the beginning of my body. 86 00:09:57,918 --> 00:10:03,400 Father is the cause of the beginning of my body or your body, everyone. 87 00:10:03,401 --> 00:10:12,682 So therefore He has no beginning, that He has no father, but He is the supreme father. 88 00:10:12,683 --> 00:10:21,185 That is the conception, Christian conception: God is the supreme father. 89 00:10:21,186 --> 00:10:27,128 That is fact because He is the beginning of everyone. 90 00:10:27,129 --> 00:10:35,292 Janmādy asya yataḥ: [Bhāg. 1.1.1] “Whatever has come into being, that is from Kṛṣṇa.” 91 00:10:35,293 --> 00:10:38,324 That is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā. 92 00:10:38,325 --> 00:10:41,691 Aham ādir hi devānām [?]. 93 00:10:41,692 --> 00:10:51,407 The devatās… This brahmāṇḍa is the creation of Brahmā. 94 00:10:51,408 --> 00:10:54,802 He is called one of the demigods. 95 00:10:54,803 --> 00:11:04,770 So Kṛṣṇa says, aham ādir hi devānām [?], “I am the beginning of the devatās, demigods.” 96 00:11:04,771 --> 00:11:19,017 So if you study Kṛṣṇa in this way, then you become daiva, divine. 97 00:11:19,018 --> 00:11:22,314 Divine. 98 00:11:22,315 --> 00:11:31,786 Our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is meant for educating everyone to become divine. 99 00:11:31,787 --> 00:11:34,688 That is the program. 100 00:11:34,689 --> 00:11:37,862 So what is the gain by becoming divine? 101 00:11:37,863 --> 00:11:42,975 That is described in the previous verse. 102 00:11:42,976 --> 00:11:48,500 Daivī sampad vimokṣāya. 103 00:11:48,501 --> 00:12:00,626 If you become divine and acquire the divine qualities, abhayaṁ sattva-saṁśuddhiḥ jñāna-yoga-vyavasthitiḥ… [?]. 104 00:12:00,627 --> 00:12:01,205 That is… 105 00:12:01,206 --> 00:12:04,326 We have discussed already. 106 00:12:04,327 --> 00:12:08,997 So if you become divine… 107 00:12:08,998 --> 00:12:13,860 There is no impediment to become divine. 108 00:12:13,861 --> 00:12:21,361 Simply you have to practice for the post. 109 00:12:21,362 --> 00:12:24,491 Just like everyone can become a high court judge. 110 00:12:24,492 --> 00:12:28,693 Everyone can become the president of United States. 111 00:12:28,694 --> 00:12:30,043 There is no bar. 112 00:12:30,044 --> 00:12:33,765 But you have to be qualified. 113 00:12:33,766 --> 00:12:42,484 If you qualify yourself, you can become any…, fitted in any position. 114 00:12:42,485 --> 00:12:54,755 Similarly, as it is said, to divine, to become daivī, you have to qualify yourself to become divine. 115 00:12:54,756 --> 00:12:56,707 How to become divine? 116 00:12:56,708 --> 00:12:58,307 That is already described. 117 00:12:58,308 --> 00:12:59,818 We have already… 118 00:12:59,819 --> 00:13:09,581 So if you qualify yourself by the divine qualities, then what is the benefit? 119 00:13:09,582 --> 00:13:14,198 Daivī sampad vimokṣāya. 120 00:13:14,199 --> 00:13:16,972 Mokṣa. 121 00:13:16,973 --> 00:13:18,726 Mokṣa mean liberation. 122 00:13:18,727 --> 00:13:28,565 So if you cultivate divine qualities, then you are fit for being liberated. 123 00:13:28,566 --> 00:13:31,451 What is liberation? 124 00:13:31,452 --> 00:13:36,157 Liberation from repeating birth and death. 125 00:13:36,158 --> 00:13:40,229 That is our real suffering. 126 00:13:40,230 --> 00:13:49,713 The modern, rascal civilization, they do not know actually what is the end of suffering. 127 00:13:49,714 --> 00:13:50,851 They do not know. 128 00:13:50,852 --> 00:13:52,923 There is no education. 129 00:13:52,924 --> 00:13:54,212 There is no science. 130 00:13:54,213 --> 00:14:25,036 They are thinking that “Here this small span of life, say, fifty years, sixty years, hundred years, utmost, if we get a nice wife, a nice apartment and nice motor car, running with seventy miles speed, and a nice whiskey bottle…” 131 00:14:25,037 --> 00:14:28,701 That is his perfection. 132 00:14:28,702 --> 00:14:32,404 But that is not vimokṣāya. 133 00:14:32,405 --> 00:14:41,608 Real vimokṣa, liberation, means no more birth, death, old age and disease. 134 00:14:41,609 --> 00:14:43,070 That is vimokṣa. 135 00:14:43,071 --> 00:14:45,247 But they do not know even. 136 00:14:45,248 --> 00:14:50,778 They do not know even that there is birth after death. 137 00:14:50,779 --> 00:14:53,871 Such a foolish civilization. 138 00:14:53,872 --> 00:15:00,374 Although we are experiencing every moment birth and death… 139 00:15:00,375 --> 00:15:08,904 Birth and death every moment, it is going on so finely. 140 00:15:08,905 --> 00:15:11,658 It is Kṛṣṇa’s arrangement. 141 00:15:11,659 --> 00:15:21,948 Just like this world, this earthly planet, is moving at the rate of one thousand miles per hour. 142 00:15:21,949 --> 00:15:25,544 Such a gigantic body, it is also moving. 143 00:15:25,545 --> 00:15:27,421 Every, all planets are moving. 144 00:15:27,422 --> 00:15:29,032 Even the sun is moving. 145 00:15:29,033 --> 00:15:33,036 But we cannot perceive. 146 00:15:33,037 --> 00:15:46,146 You ride on a best airplane—there are so many disturbances, sound, moving, sometimes table is [trembling?] moving. 147 00:15:46,147 --> 00:15:55,981 But this planet also moving more speedily than the airplane, but you do not perceive. 148 00:15:55,982 --> 00:16:00,947 This is Kṛṣṇa’s manufacture, perfectly. 149 00:16:00,948 --> 00:16:02,473 Pūrṇam idam. 150 00:16:02,474 --> 00:16:07,298 This is called pūrṇam idam, everything perfect. 151 00:16:07,299 --> 00:16:17,909 Pūrṇam idaṁ pūrṇam adaḥ pūrṇāt pūrṇam udacyate [?], pūrṇasya pūrṇam ādāya pūrṇam eva avaśiṣyate [Īśopaniṣad, Invocation]. 152 00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:23,786 Because He is so perfect, we do not perceive. 153 00:16:23,787 --> 00:16:25,954 But it is moving. 154 00:16:25,955 --> 00:16:41,231 Everyone knows that the morning, there is sunrise, and in twelve hours after covering twelve thousand miles, the evening is there. 155 00:16:41,232 --> 00:16:48,591 Again twelve thousand miles moving—you are sleeping—in the morning you see again the sun. 156 00:16:48,592 --> 00:16:49,630 The sun is there. 157 00:16:49,631 --> 00:16:52,402 Sun is not moving. 158 00:16:52,403 --> 00:16:56,022 But the world is moving. 159 00:16:56,023 --> 00:16:58,903 It is moving so nicely. 160 00:16:58,904 --> 00:17:07,677 Not only this earthly planet, but there are millions and trillions of planets within the sky. 161 00:17:07,678 --> 00:17:09,438 They are all moving. 162 00:17:09,439 --> 00:17:15,099 Seasonal changes, day and night, everything is going on. 163 00:17:15,100 --> 00:17:17,115 This is perfection. 164 00:17:17,116 --> 00:17:26,298 So those who are in divine nature, they can understand all these things. 165 00:17:26,299 --> 00:17:28,905 That is called daivī sampat. 166 00:17:28,906 --> 00:17:36,596 In other philosophies they can say… 167 00:17:36,597 --> 00:17:40,219 The Christians say, “God is great.” 168 00:17:40,220 --> 00:17:45,196 The Muslim also say that allah akbar. 169 00:17:45,197 --> 00:17:46,825 That is also same meaning. 170 00:17:46,826 --> 00:17:55,280 The Vedic literature also says, Brahman, Parabrahma. 171 00:17:55,281 --> 00:17:57,343 Brahman means the greatest. 172 00:17:57,344 --> 00:18:03,386 Bṛhatvāt bṛhannatvād iti brahma [?]. 173 00:18:03,387 --> 00:18:07,982 Brahman means because it is very, very great. 174 00:18:07,983 --> 00:18:12,747 And not only great, it is becoming greater and greater. 175 00:18:12,748 --> 00:18:16,182 Bṛhannatvāt. 176 00:18:16,183 --> 00:18:31,611 So the great understanding, greatness understanding, of Kṛṣṇa or the Absolute Truth is accepted everywhere in civilized human society. 177 00:18:31,612 --> 00:18:42,491 But how God is great, that you can find in the Vedic literature. 178 00:18:42,492 --> 00:18:47,218 Simply to know God is great… 179 00:18:47,219 --> 00:18:53,316 Just like everyone knows that he has got a father. 180 00:18:53,317 --> 00:18:55,812 That is not difficult. 181 00:18:55,813 --> 00:19:05,872 Anyone who is in this material world, in material world or spiritual world, there is a father. 182 00:19:05,873 --> 00:19:09,377 Everyone knows that. 183 00:19:09,378 --> 00:19:25,617 But who is my father, how he is, how great he is, what is his qualification, what does he do, what is his father’s name, what is his address—that you can understand from Bhagavad-gītā. 184 00:19:25,618 --> 00:19:33,452 Therefore it is essential that everyone should read Bhagavad-gītā. 185 00:19:33,453 --> 00:19:37,618 Simply to know God is great, that is also good. 186 00:19:37,619 --> 00:19:41,017 He is accepting the greatness of God. 187 00:19:41,018 --> 00:20:02,131 But if you want to know in detail how great He is, to what extent great He is, how the actions of His greatness are going on, how His activities of greatness are going on, then you read Bhagavad-gītā. 188 00:20:02,132 --> 00:20:11,161 Bhagavad-gītā says that mattaḥ parataraṁ nānyat kiñcid asti dhanañjaya [Bg. 7.7]. 189 00:20:11,162 --> 00:20:18,429 Kṛṣṇa says, “There is no more greater factor than Me.” 190 00:20:18,430 --> 00:20:23,956 Everyone knows God is great. 191 00:20:23,957 --> 00:20:27,161 Great means everyone is small. 192 00:20:27,162 --> 00:20:28,767 He is great. 193 00:20:28,768 --> 00:20:31,089 Nobody is equal to Him. 194 00:20:31,090 --> 00:20:33,757 Nobody is greater than Him. 195 00:20:33,758 --> 00:20:35,335 That is the meaning of greatness. 196 00:20:35,336 --> 00:20:54,514 So how He is greater than everyone and nobody is equal to Him, everyone is subordinate, everyone is creation of Him—this knowledge, if you get… 197 00:20:54,515 --> 00:20:59,147 Janma karma me divyaṁ yo jānāti tattvataḥ [?]. 198 00:20:59,148 --> 00:21:14,748 If you understand these factors of the greatness of God perfectly well, then you become fit for being transferred to the spiritual world. 199 00:21:14,749 --> 00:21:17,946 That is called daivī sampad. 200 00:21:17,947 --> 00:21:20,788 Daivī sampad vimokṣāya. 201 00:21:20,789 --> 00:21:24,889 If you become divine… 202 00:21:24,890 --> 00:21:26,483 This is cultivation. 203 00:21:26,484 --> 00:21:27,313 This is education. 204 00:21:27,314 --> 00:21:29,066 This is not sentiment. 205 00:21:29,067 --> 00:21:41,257 People are…, try to understand that this movement, Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, is Hindu movement: “Kṛṣṇa is one of the Hindu gods.” 206 00:21:41,258 --> 00:21:44,015 But that is not the fact. 207 00:21:44,016 --> 00:21:45,759 Kṛṣṇa is God. 208 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,790 God is God. 209 00:21:47,791 --> 00:21:53,071 God cannot be Hindu God, cannot be Muslim God, cannot be Christian God. 210 00:21:53,072 --> 00:21:55,017 God is God. 211 00:21:55,018 --> 00:21:57,607 Just like gold. 212 00:21:57,608 --> 00:22:04,435 If the Hindus deal gold, that does not mean gold becomes Hindu gold. 213 00:22:04,436 --> 00:22:12,744 Or the Christian deals in gold, that does not become…, the gold becomes Christian, or Muslim. 214 00:22:12,745 --> 00:22:13,874 Gold is gold. 215 00:22:13,875 --> 00:22:19,063 Similarly, God is God, the great. 216 00:22:19,064 --> 00:22:25,804 Now, if you study how His greatness expands… 217 00:22:25,805 --> 00:22:29,985 Just like here is one example. 218 00:22:29,986 --> 00:22:41,968 Īśvaraḥ sarva-bhūtānāṁ hṛd-deśe ’rjuna tiṣṭhati bhrāmayan sarva-bhūtāni yantrārūḍhāni māyayā [Bg. 18.61]. 219 00:22:41,969 --> 00:22:43,817 Very simple. 220 00:22:43,818 --> 00:22:55,334 Īśvaraḥ, that God, in His Paramātmā feature is sitting within everyone’s heart, your heart, my heart, everyone’s. 221 00:22:55,335 --> 00:22:56,412 God is… 222 00:22:56,413 --> 00:23:02,182 You haven’t got to find out God somewhere else. 223 00:23:02,183 --> 00:23:08,927 Therefore the yogis, they practice, “How to find out God within myself?” 224 00:23:08,928 --> 00:23:10,232 That is called meditation. 225 00:23:10,233 --> 00:23:14,876 Meditation means to find out… 226 00:23:14,877 --> 00:23:20,780 It is heard from the śāstra, “The God is within my heart. 227 00:23:20,781 --> 00:23:26,524 Now let me find out where is God within my heart.” 228 00:23:26,525 --> 00:23:30,125 That is called yoga, yoga system. 229 00:23:30,126 --> 00:23:37,044 Dhyānāvasthita-tad-gatena manasā paśyanti yaṁ yoginaḥ [SB 12.13.1]. 230 00:23:37,045 --> 00:23:45,345 Yogi’s business is to become engaged in meditation, dhyānāvasthita. 231 00:23:45,346 --> 00:23:53,611 Now this meditation is very profusely used in your country especially. 232 00:23:53,612 --> 00:23:56,425 But what is the meditation? 233 00:23:56,426 --> 00:23:57,906 This is meditation. 234 00:23:57,907 --> 00:24:15,478 When you fix up your mind to find out God, Kṛṣṇa, within your heart, that is called meditation, not thinking some foolish objective is meditation. 235 00:24:15,479 --> 00:24:16,871 This is meditation. 236 00:24:16,872 --> 00:24:21,464 Dhyānāvasthita-tad-gatena manasā [?]. 237 00:24:21,465 --> 00:24:31,495 Tad-gatena, mind being fully absorbed in Him, by that mind, you can find out. 238 00:24:31,496 --> 00:24:37,612 So Kṛṣṇa consciousness is little more than that. 239 00:24:37,613 --> 00:24:43,787 Consciousness is above mind. 240 00:24:43,788 --> 00:24:46,890 Mind is there. 241 00:24:46,891 --> 00:24:48,941 Mind is above the senses. 242 00:24:48,942 --> 00:24:54,585 Indriyāṇi parāṇy āhur indriyebhyaḥ paraṁ manaḥ [Bg. 3.42]. 243 00:24:54,586 --> 00:24:59,420 The senses, our body means the senses. 244 00:24:59,421 --> 00:25:01,899 The senses are prominent. 245 00:25:01,900 --> 00:25:04,054 Therefore body is active. 246 00:25:04,055 --> 00:25:10,622 But the senses cannot work if the mind is absent. 247 00:25:10,623 --> 00:25:16,682 Therefore we call, “attentively, concentrating your mind.” 248 00:25:16,683 --> 00:25:20,899 So mind is above the senses. 249 00:25:20,900 --> 00:25:28,795 And the how the mind is acting—thinking, feeling and willing—that is called intelligence. 250 00:25:28,796 --> 00:25:30,249 Everything finer. 251 00:25:30,250 --> 00:25:41,766 You can see your senses, my senses, but everyone knows that you have got mind, I have got mind, but we cannot see the mind. 252 00:25:41,767 --> 00:25:47,102 Can you say anyone that “Here is mind?” 253 00:25:47,103 --> 00:25:50,627 No, because it is finer. 254 00:25:50,628 --> 00:25:57,712 Then everyone has got some intelligence, but can you see intelligence? 255 00:25:57,713 --> 00:25:58,934 Go on. 256 00:25:58,935 --> 00:26:00,114 It is still finer. 257 00:26:00,115 --> 00:26:07,231 Similarly, there is soul, which is still finer than the intelligence. 258 00:26:07,232 --> 00:26:09,017 So how you can see the soul? 259 00:26:09,018 --> 00:26:16,201 If you cannot see the mind, if you cannot see the intelligence, then how you can see the soul? 260 00:26:16,202 --> 00:26:24,287 Then the source of soul, the Supreme Soul, how you can see? 261 00:26:24,288 --> 00:26:33,946 Therefore it is said, ataḥ śrī-kṛṣṇa-nāmādi na bhaved grāhyam indriyaiḥ [BRS. 1.2.234]. 262 00:26:33,947 --> 00:26:44,454 If you speculate your senses to find out where is God, where is the soul… 263 00:26:44,455 --> 00:26:56,551 The doctors are daily operating, heart operation, and so many finer, finer surgical operation, but they cannot find out where is the soul. 264 00:26:56,552 --> 00:26:59,833 But soul is there. 265 00:26:59,834 --> 00:27:02,135 That we can perceive. 266 00:27:02,136 --> 00:27:09,278 When the soul goes away from the body, we can understand, “Now the soul has gone; the body is dead.” 267 00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:13,603 So you can perceive; you cannot see. 268 00:27:13,604 --> 00:27:22,203 It is not understandable by speculating your gross senses. 269 00:27:22,204 --> 00:27:24,531 You cannot… 270 00:27:24,532 --> 00:27:36,910 If you want to see what is mind, what is intelligence, what is soul, what is Supersoul, that is not possible to see by your these blunt eyes, conditional eyes. 271 00:27:36,911 --> 00:27:41,193 Everyone is very proud of his senses. 272 00:27:41,194 --> 00:27:44,123 Somebody says, “Can you show me God?” 273 00:27:44,124 --> 00:27:48,636 But have you got the power to see God first of all? 274 00:27:48,637 --> 00:27:55,189 So these things are not very intelligent questions and answer. 275 00:27:55,190 --> 00:28:02,432 You have to practice according to the direction of the śāstras. 276 00:28:02,433 --> 00:28:05,614 Just like here is Bhagavad-gītā. 277 00:28:05,615 --> 00:28:07,450 You follow the direction. 278 00:28:07,451 --> 00:28:23,523 You will understand what is God, what you are, what is this world, what is our relation between ourself, what is our condition, how we can get out of this miserable condition. 279 00:28:23,524 --> 00:28:25,441 Everything you will find. 280 00:28:25,442 --> 00:28:41,671 In the beginning a small child cannot understand what is mathematic, but if he studies mathematic science, he one day becomes a very big mathematician, the same child. 281 00:28:41,672 --> 00:28:54,055 Similarly, this spiritual science, every one of you can become spiritually advanced provided you study the science. 282 00:28:54,056 --> 00:28:56,077 That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. 283 00:28:56,078 --> 00:29:00,615 It is not a bluff sentiment. 284 00:29:00,616 --> 00:29:02,611 It is a great science. 285 00:29:02,612 --> 00:29:12,274 Those who are actually studious, they can understand the science perfectly if they study all our books. 286 00:29:12,275 --> 00:29:19,209 We have got twenty volumes books like this already published. 287 00:29:19,210 --> 00:29:27,686 And we propose to publish seventy-two volumes, how to understand God. 288 00:29:27,687 --> 00:29:32,917 So God is not so cheap thing, that “I have become God; you have become God.” 289 00:29:32,918 --> 00:29:35,317 It is a great science. 290 00:29:35,318 --> 00:29:44,713 So those who want to understand God scientifically, philosophically, let them read these books. 291 00:29:44,714 --> 00:29:49,735 That is our presentation, Kṛṣṇa consciousness. 292 00:29:49,736 --> 00:30:04,343 And those who are unable to read all these books for any reason it may be, then it is a very simple method: chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. 293 00:30:04,344 --> 00:30:07,912 It is so sublime. 294 00:30:07,913 --> 00:30:21,019 If you simply chant Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra, then you understand clearly what you are, what is God, what is your relationship with Him, what is this world. 295 00:30:21,020 --> 00:30:24,817 Everything will be clear. 296 00:30:24,818 --> 00:30:30,647 That is the advantage of this fallen age. 297 00:30:30,648 --> 00:30:33,411 This age is very, very fallen. 298 00:30:33,412 --> 00:30:38,577 People have completely forgotten God. 299 00:30:38,578 --> 00:30:43,987 Not completely because few men are still interested. 300 00:30:43,988 --> 00:30:48,176 Otherwise why they are joining this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement? 301 00:30:48,177 --> 00:30:50,284 We cannot say completely. 302 00:30:50,285 --> 00:30:58,970 But gradually, it will be completely forgetful of God, day by day. 303 00:30:58,971 --> 00:31:02,099 Just like we can see. 304 00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:15,674 Formerly, our forefathers, they used to construct churches, temples, mosque, synagogue, but nowadays, nobody is preparing. 305 00:31:15,675 --> 00:31:20,415 In the modern history you won’t find. 306 00:31:20,416 --> 00:31:25,149 They are constructing big, big skyscraper buildings. 307 00:31:25,150 --> 00:31:26,548 That we can see. 308 00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:33,721 But you don’t see anywhere a magnificent church or temple or mosque is being constructed. 309 00:31:33,722 --> 00:31:40,696 That means people are going down in the matter of understanding God. 310 00:31:40,697 --> 00:31:48,381 They are thinking these buildings are waste of money, unproductive creation. 311 00:31:48,382 --> 00:31:55,341 “If we manufacture a skyscraper building, immediately there will be some income. 312 00:31:55,342 --> 00:32:02,446 But if I construct a gigantic temple, it will be simply waste of money.” 313 00:32:02,447 --> 00:32:04,990 They are thinking like that. 314 00:32:04,991 --> 00:32:11,055 That means the standard of understanding God is finished. 315 00:32:11,056 --> 00:32:17,774 Not to speak of constructing new churches, but… 316 00:32:17,775 --> 00:32:21,395 We are practically purchasing many churches. 317 00:32:21,396 --> 00:32:23,081 They are vacant. 318 00:32:23,082 --> 00:32:25,921 I have seen in London. 319 00:32:25,922 --> 00:32:27,881 Hundreds of churches are vacant. 320 00:32:27,882 --> 00:32:28,987 Nobody goes there. 321 00:32:28,988 --> 00:32:31,941 Nobody goes there. 322 00:32:31,942 --> 00:32:41,360 So one priest was surprised in Boston that “These boys, they are our boys. 323 00:32:41,361 --> 00:32:43,571 They are Christian boys. 324 00:32:43,572 --> 00:32:45,173 They are American boys. 325 00:32:45,174 --> 00:32:50,330 So previously they were not coming to the church. 326 00:32:50,331 --> 00:32:55,282 They did not care for God or to understand what is God. 327 00:32:55,283 --> 00:32:58,802 But why they are mad after God now?” 328 00:32:58,803 --> 00:33:02,192 That’s a fact. 329 00:33:02,193 --> 00:33:07,075 These boys, you American boys, you were not interested. 330 00:33:07,076 --> 00:33:14,610 But why you are so interested and you are preaching Kṛṣṇa consciousness all over the world? 331 00:33:14,611 --> 00:33:16,876 You are not foolish. 332 00:33:16,877 --> 00:33:18,717 I have not bribed you. 333 00:33:18,718 --> 00:33:21,366 But why you are doing that? 334 00:33:21,367 --> 00:33:27,231 So this is a fact that we have got intimate relationship with Kṛṣṇa. 335 00:33:27,232 --> 00:33:28,573 That’s a fact. 336 00:33:28,574 --> 00:33:32,402 Just like father and son. 337 00:33:32,403 --> 00:33:35,518 They are intimately related. 338 00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:49,137 It may be the son has gone out of home for many years, but as soon as he meets his father, again the same love between father and son revives. 339 00:33:49,138 --> 00:34:03,601 It does not mean because the son was out of home for many, many years, there is no need of awakening the love of father and son. 340 00:34:03,602 --> 00:34:12,487 Similarly, in the Caitanya-caritāmṛta it is said, nitya-siddha kṛṣṇa-bhakti [?]. 341 00:34:12,488 --> 00:34:16,697 The love between Kṛṣṇa and ourself… 342 00:34:16,698 --> 00:34:18,527 It doesn’t matter where we are. 343 00:34:18,528 --> 00:34:34,969 All living entities, especially the human being, especially the civilized human being, those who have got sense, they can revive Kṛṣṇa consciousness very easily by chanting this Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra. 344 00:34:34,970 --> 00:34:42,692 So that is our request, that you are very intelligent boys, American boys. 345 00:34:42,693 --> 00:34:45,993 Try to understand Kṛṣṇa. 346 00:34:45,994 --> 00:34:49,120 Try to revive your relationship with Kṛṣṇa. 347 00:34:49,121 --> 00:34:51,644 Then you will be happy; otherwise not. 348 00:34:51,645 --> 00:34:58,941 Thank you very much [end] 349 00:34:58,942 --> 00:34:58,943 Subtitles by Gaurāṅga Sundara Dāsa, Causelessmercy.com