0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,214 Cc M 20-156 NY 1966-12-11 Intimate Association with --etc 1 00:00:01,215 --> 00:00:05,492 ANNOUNCER: Next is a class from the Caitanya-caritāmṛta 2 00:00:05,493 --> 00:00:10,343 given by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, 3 00:00:10,344 --> 00:00:20,342 recorded in December of 1966 in New York. 4 00:00:20,343 --> 00:00:25,233 PRABHUPĀDA: Ete cāṁśa-kalāḥ puṁsaḥ kṛṣṇas tu bhagavān svayam 5 00:00:25,234 --> 00:00:30,068 indrāri-vyākulaṁ lokaṁ mṛḍayanti yuge yuge [Bhag. 1.3.28]. 6 00:00:30,069 --> 00:00:33,467 Jñāna, yoga, bhakti,— tina sādhanera vaśe 7 00:00:33,468 --> 00:00:36,061 brahma, ātmā, bhagavān—trividha prakāśe [Cc. Madhya 20.157]. 8 00:00:36,062 --> 00:00:45,400 So the Absolute Truth is manifested according to the vision of the seer. 9 00:00:45,401 --> 00:00:53,986 The Absolute Truth is one without second, but according to the capacity of the seer, 10 00:00:53,987 --> 00:00:59,950 the Absolute Truth is manifested either as Brahman, impersonal Brahman, 11 00:00:59,951 --> 00:01:06,715 or localized Paramātmā, or the Supreme Personality of Godhead. 12 00:01:06,716 --> 00:01:10,137 So this point we have discussed. 13 00:01:10,138 --> 00:01:17,278 So Lord Caitanya is giving one evidence from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam: 14 00:01:17,279 --> 00:01:21,430 Vadanti tat tattva-vidas tattvaṁ yaj jñānam advayam 15 00:01:21,431 --> 00:01:26,812 brahmeti paramātmeti bhagavān iti śabdyate [SB. 1.2.11]. 16 00:01:26,813 --> 00:01:33,179 In the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam it is said that “The Absolute Truth is one, 17 00:01:33,180 --> 00:01:36,340 without any duality. 18 00:01:36,341 --> 00:01:40,991 He is simply named in different ways.” 19 00:01:40,992 --> 00:01:43,293 And what are the different names? 20 00:01:43,294 --> 00:01:50,554 “Brahman, Paramātmā and Bhagavān.” 21 00:01:50,555 --> 00:01:52,351 Brahma—aṅga-kānti tāṅra, 22 00:01:52,352 --> 00:01:58,594 nirviśeṣa prakāśe sūrya yena carma-cakṣe jyotirmaya bhāse [Cc. Madhya 20.159]. 23 00:01:58,595 --> 00:02:06,768 Lord Caitanya says that “The conception of Brahman is 24 00:02:06,769 --> 00:02:13,293 that it is the rays of the body of Kṛṣṇa. 25 00:02:13,294 --> 00:02:21,135 Just like the sunshine is the rays of the body of the sun disc, similarly,” 26 00:02:21,136 --> 00:02:25,418 Brahma—aṅga-kānti tāṅra nirviśeṣa prakāśe [Cc. Madhya 20.157]. 27 00:02:25,419 --> 00:02:34,574 And in that brahmajyoti, or rays, there is no variegatedness. 28 00:02:34,575 --> 00:02:39,179 Just like if you all of a sudden see to the sun, 29 00:02:39,180 --> 00:02:43,219 you don’t find any variegatedness in the sky. 30 00:02:43,220 --> 00:02:47,495 It appears just like only dazzling effulgence. 31 00:02:47,496 --> 00:02:52,812 But when the sunlight is not there, 32 00:02:52,813 --> 00:02:58,823 we can see millions and millions of stars in the firmament. 33 00:02:58,824 --> 00:03:06,669 So in the Upaniṣad also, it is prayed that “My Lord, 34 00:03:06,670 --> 00:03:19,256 You kindly move this curtain of glaring effulgence so then I can actually see You.” 35 00:03:19,257 --> 00:03:26,619 So one who is dazzled by this glaring effulgence of the rays of Kṛṣṇa, 36 00:03:26,620 --> 00:03:37,226 they can realize the Supreme Lord or the Supreme Absolute Truth as impersonal. 37 00:03:37,227 --> 00:03:40,017 Sūrya yena carma-cakṣe jyotirmaya bhāse [Cc. Madhya 20.159]. 38 00:03:40,018 --> 00:03:47,716 Carma-cakṣe, with our present eyes, defective… All our senses are defective. 39 00:03:47,717 --> 00:03:51,508 We are very much proud of our eyes. 40 00:03:51,509 --> 00:03:54,075 I want to see personally. 41 00:03:54,076 --> 00:04:01,256 But we do not know that with these eyes or any sense, they are all defective. 42 00:04:01,257 --> 00:04:04,321 They are not perfect. 43 00:04:04,322 --> 00:04:09,803 Just like in the glare of the sunshine, oh, we see nothing. 44 00:04:09,804 --> 00:04:12,616 We see sometimes darkness. 45 00:04:12,617 --> 00:04:16,138 So we cannot believe these eyes or senses. 46 00:04:16,139 --> 00:04:21,628 We have to take information of perfect knowledge from the authorities. 47 00:04:21,629 --> 00:04:24,737 That is the Vedic way. 48 00:04:24,738 --> 00:04:30,571 So those who want to see God or the Supreme Absolute Truth 49 00:04:30,572 --> 00:04:36,896 by the agency of their imperfect senses, 50 00:04:36,897 --> 00:04:40,142 they say that God is impersonal. 51 00:04:40,143 --> 00:04:41,008 They’re imperfect. 52 00:04:41,009 --> 00:04:48,941 That is a realization of the imperfect senses. 53 00:04:48,942 --> 00:04:58,091 Perfectly, the perfectly vision, perfect vision of the Supreme Lord is a person. 54 00:04:58,092 --> 00:05:01,637 Just like nobody can enter into the sun disc. 55 00:05:01,638 --> 00:05:04,600 They can say from distant place, “Oh, there is nothing. 56 00:05:04,601 --> 00:05:06,401 It is simply fire.” 57 00:05:06,402 --> 00:05:09,980 But from scripture we understand, “No. 58 00:05:09,981 --> 00:05:12,059 That is a planet.” 59 00:05:12,060 --> 00:05:17,196 And as in this planet we have got so many variegatedness, similarly, 60 00:05:17,197 --> 00:05:21,671 in that planet also, there are… In every planet. 61 00:05:21,672 --> 00:05:25,570 There is no reason to disbelieve that in, in the, 62 00:05:25,571 --> 00:05:30,776 in other planets there is no life, there is no variegatedness. No. 63 00:05:30,777 --> 00:05:34,173 According to Vedic literature, it is not acceptable. 64 00:05:34,174 --> 00:05:40,784 Each and every planet, there is variegatedness as we find in this planet. 65 00:05:40,785 --> 00:05:47,401 The difference is that in some of the planets earthly matter is prominent, 66 00:05:47,402 --> 00:05:52,185 some of the planets fiery elements are prominent. 67 00:05:52,186 --> 00:05:57,132 So in the sun, sun planet, fiery elements is very prominent. 68 00:05:57,133 --> 00:06:03,755 There the living entities and everything, they are made of fire. 69 00:06:03,756 --> 00:06:12,160 So He’s giving another evidence from Brahma-saṁhitā: 70 00:06:12,161 --> 00:06:20,088 Yasya prabhā prabhavato jagad-aṇḍa-koṭi- koṭiṣv aśeṣa-vasudhādi-vibhūti-bhinnam 71 00:06:20,089 --> 00:06:23,479 tad brahma niṣkalam anantam aśeṣa-bhūtaṁ 72 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,002 govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi [Bs. 5.40]. 73 00:06:27,003 --> 00:06:36,820 “I worship the primeval Lord, Govinda, whose bodily effulgence is brahmajyoti.” 74 00:06:36,821 --> 00:06:43,060 The brahmajyoti, that is nothing but His bodily effulgence. 75 00:06:43,061 --> 00:06:44,893 And in that brahmajyoti… 76 00:06:44,894 --> 00:06:49,270 yasya prabhā prabhavato jagad-aṇḍa-koṭi [Bs. 5.40] 77 00:06:49,271 --> 00:06:54,983 Or that brahmajyoti being manifested, 78 00:06:54,984 --> 00:07:00,691 there are innumerable planets and universes. 79 00:07:00,692 --> 00:07:03,079 There are. 80 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:10,722 The same example: just like in the sun, sunshine, there are innumerable planets, 81 00:07:10,723 --> 00:07:17,060 so similarly, in the original shine, Kṛṣṇa shine—this is sunshine. 82 00:07:17,061 --> 00:07:19,653 The original shine is Kṛṣṇa shining— 83 00:07:19,654 --> 00:07:26,182 in that effulgence there are innumerable Vaikuṇṭha planets, spiritual planets. 84 00:07:26,183 --> 00:07:28,677 Ekāṁśena sthito jagat [Bg. 10.42]. 85 00:07:28,678 --> 00:07:30,361 In the Bhagavad-gītā, you’ll find, 86 00:07:30,362 --> 00:07:38,103 all these planetary manifestations is situated in one fourth of His effulgence. 87 00:07:38,104 --> 00:07:44,445 Three fourths of the manifestation are in the spiritual sky. 88 00:07:44,446 --> 00:07:48,150 tad brahma niṣkalam anantam aśeṣa-bhūtam [Bs. 5.40] 89 00:07:48,151 --> 00:07:56,559 aśeṣa-bhūtam It is so much extended that nobody can calculate how far. 90 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,882 We cannot calculate even the sunshine, how far it is extended, 91 00:08:00,883 --> 00:08:04,737 and what to speak of that original effulgence. 92 00:08:04,738 --> 00:08:09,098 So our knowledge is always imperfect. 93 00:08:09,099 --> 00:08:15,145 We cannot study even millions and millionth part of the 94 00:08:15,146 --> 00:08:19,071 opulence of the Supreme Lord. 95 00:08:19,072 --> 00:08:25,356 So it is futile to deny God because we cannot calculate 96 00:08:25,357 --> 00:08:30,627 His potencies and expansion of potencies. 97 00:08:30,628 --> 00:08:35,617 Paramātmā yeṅho, teṅho kṛṣṇera eka aṁśa ātmāra ‘ātmā’ haya 98 00:08:35,618 --> 00:08:37,915 kṛṣṇa [sarva-]avataṁsa [Cc. Madhya 20.161]. 99 00:08:37,916 --> 00:08:44,961 Now, this localized aspect, Paramātmā, in individual soul, 100 00:08:44,962 --> 00:08:48,285 living, He’s called Paramātmā. 101 00:08:48,286 --> 00:08:58,234 So that Paramātmā, Supersoul, is also a part representation. 102 00:08:58,235 --> 00:09:02,469 The, the body of Kṛṣṇa is sac- cid-ānanda vigraha [Bs. 5.1]. 103 00:09:02,470 --> 00:09:11,624 Sac, cid, ānanda—three, three spiritual divisions. 104 00:09:11,625 --> 00:09:13,002 Not division actually. 105 00:09:13,003 --> 00:09:14,033 They are one. 106 00:09:14,034 --> 00:09:20,698 But for our understanding we analyze in that way: sac, cid, ānanda. 107 00:09:20,699 --> 00:09:23,717 Sat. Sat means eternity. 108 00:09:23,718 --> 00:09:30,617 Brahman realization, impersonal Brahman realization, is realization of eternity. 109 00:09:30,618 --> 00:09:35,863 Paramātmā realization means eternity and knowledge. 110 00:09:35,864 --> 00:09:44,579 And Bhagavān realization means full realization: eternity, knowledge and bliss. 111 00:09:44,580 --> 00:09:55,097 Simple eternal realization is without factual knowledge and without bliss—impersonal. 112 00:09:55,098 --> 00:10:00,496 The impersonalists, they cannot enjoy the transcendental bliss. 113 00:10:00,497 --> 00:10:04,154 They simply stay as eternal. That’s all. 114 00:10:04,155 --> 00:10:10,589 Śānta-rasa. It is called śānta- rasa, peaceful śānta-rasa. 115 00:10:10,590 --> 00:10:13,502 There is no exchange. 116 00:10:13,503 --> 00:10:17,531 And further development is dāsya-rasa. 117 00:10:17,532 --> 00:10:21,528 And further development is sākhya-rasa. 118 00:10:21,529 --> 00:10:27,179 And further development is vātsalya-rasa. 119 00:10:27,180 --> 00:10:31,458 And further, ultimate development is mādhurya-rasa. 120 00:10:31,459 --> 00:10:36,860 So in the spiritual atmosphere there are different degrees of realization. 121 00:10:36,861 --> 00:10:40,033 So this Brahman realization is the first step, 122 00:10:40,034 --> 00:10:45,583 and the Paramātmā realization is the second step, and Bhagavān realization, 123 00:10:45,584 --> 00:10:55,811 the Supreme Personality of Godhead, that is the ultimate stage. 124 00:10:55,812 --> 00:11:03,414 He’s giving some evidences from Śrīmad- Bhāgavatam and Bhagavad-gītā also: 125 00:11:03,415 --> 00:11:11,258 kṛṣṇam enam avehi tvam ātmānam akhilātmanām 126 00:11:11,259 --> 00:11:22,043 jagad-dhitāya so’py atra dehīvābhāti māyayā [SB 10.14.55] Now, 127 00:11:22,044 --> 00:11:31,003 in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam some advanced devotee is indicating Kṛṣṇa: 128 00:11:31,004 --> 00:11:34,649 kṛṣṇam enam avehi. 129 00:11:34,650 --> 00:11:39,819 “This Kṛṣṇa…” When Kṛṣṇa was present in person, 130 00:11:39,820 --> 00:11:46,586 many persons studied Him in a different way, but one of them, 131 00:11:46,587 --> 00:11:53,561 who is pure devotee, he is describing about Kṛṣṇa that enam, “This Kṛṣṇa.” 132 00:11:53,562 --> 00:11:56,176 “This Kṛṣṇa,” Kṛṣṇam enam avehi [SB 10.14.55]. 133 00:11:56,177 --> 00:11:57,921 “You should try to understand.” 134 00:11:57,922 --> 00:11:59,762 What is that? 135 00:11:59,763 --> 00:12:02,922 Tvam ātmānam akhilātmanām [SB 10.14.55]. 136 00:12:02,923 --> 00:12:08,414 “ātmānam akhilātmanām” Ātmā means the self, or soul. 137 00:12:08,415 --> 00:12:12,893 So we individual souls, we are part and parcel, 138 00:12:12,894 --> 00:12:16,850 fragmental part and parcel of the Supreme. 139 00:12:16,851 --> 00:12:23,989 Therefore Kṛṣṇa is to be understood as the source of all individual selves. 140 00:12:23,990 --> 00:12:27,983 akhilātmā Akhila means all. 141 00:12:27,984 --> 00:12:32,404 Then Jagaddhitāya [SB 10.14.55].: “Now, He has come, 142 00:12:32,405 --> 00:12:36,590 He has descended out of His causeless mercy,” jagaddhitāya, 143 00:12:36,591 --> 00:12:40,619 “for the benefit of this world, this planet.” 144 00:12:40,620 --> 00:12:49,248 dehīvābhāti Just like He appears ordinary person. 145 00:12:49,249 --> 00:12:51,429 …ābhāti māyayā. 146 00:12:51,430 --> 00:12:54,073 Māyā. This māyā is not illusion. 147 00:12:54,074 --> 00:12:58,495 This māyā means by His internal potency. 148 00:12:58,496 --> 00:13:08,515 By His internal potency, He can appear just like us, but He’s not like us. 149 00:13:08,516 --> 00:13:13,398 He’s the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Then, 150 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:18,038 Atha vā bahunaitena kiṁ jñātena tavārjuna viṣṭabhyāham 151 00:13:18,039 --> 00:13:25,173 viṣṭabhya-āham idaṁ kṛtsnam ekāṁśena sthito jagat [Bg. 10.42]. 152 00:13:25,174 --> 00:13:32,355 Now the Lord says… Kṛṣṇa says, when Arjuna asked Him, “Kṛṣṇa, 153 00:13:32,356 --> 00:13:40,339 will You describe something about Your different potencies, 154 00:13:40,340 --> 00:13:44,886 by which You are working in this material world?” 155 00:13:44,887 --> 00:13:47,719 Then Kṛṣṇa describes so many things. 156 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,791 Out of that one verse is that, 157 00:13:51,792 --> 00:13:55,206 Atha vā bahunaitena kiṁ jñātena tavārjuna [Bg. 10.42]. 158 00:13:55,207 --> 00:13:57,232 “My dear Arjuna, 159 00:13:57,233 --> 00:14:03,792 I have described in nutshell many of My potencies 160 00:14:03,793 --> 00:14:07,087 in displaying this manifested world, 161 00:14:07,088 --> 00:14:13,953 but you can understand one thing, that by one part, 162 00:14:13,954 --> 00:14:18,040 by manifestation of one of My part, I am…, 163 00:14:18,041 --> 00:14:26,862 I have entered all the universe and all the hearts of living entities.” 164 00:14:26,863 --> 00:14:37,840 Just like by one reflection of the sun, if you put millions of pots with water, 165 00:14:37,841 --> 00:14:51,979 by one of the potencies of the sun, you’ll find the sun is represented in every pot. 166 00:14:51,980 --> 00:14:51,981 Subtitles by Gaurāṅga Sundara Dāsa, Causelessmercy.com Sponsored by Jitarati Dāsa