0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:14,111 Lect LA 1968-02-02 Relish of Renunciation, Sweetness --etc 1 00:00:14,112 --> 00:00:15,981 ANNOUNCER: The following is a lecture, 2 00:00:15,982 --> 00:00:21,481 given by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, 3 00:00:21,482 --> 00:00:36,011 recorded on the 2nd of February, 1968, in Los Angeles, California. 4 00:00:36,012 --> 00:00:39,081 PRABHUPĀDA: Vairāgya-vidyā-nija-bhakti-yoga- 5 00:00:39,082 --> 00:00:43,001 śikṣārtham ekaḥ puruṣaḥ purāṇaḥ 6 00:00:43,002 --> 00:00:52,321 śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya-śarīra-dhārī kṛpāmbudhir yas tam ahaṁ prapadye [Cc. Madya 6.254]. 7 00:00:52,322 --> 00:00:58,441 This verse was composed by Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya. 8 00:00:58,442 --> 00:01:01,121 You know Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya? 9 00:01:01,122 --> 00:01:02,672 You have not heard? 10 00:01:02,673 --> 00:01:03,992 DEVOTEES: Yes. 11 00:01:03,993 --> 00:01:05,262 Who was he? 12 00:01:05,263 --> 00:01:09,532 Who was Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya? 13 00:01:09,533 --> 00:01:10,642 NANDARĀṆĪ: He was a great impersonalist 14 00:01:10,643 --> 00:01:13,152 who was converted by Lord Caitanya to Vaiṣṇavism. 15 00:01:13,153 --> 00:01:15,542 Yes. 16 00:01:15,543 --> 00:01:26,622 And Nandarāṇī knows better than you [laughter] So girls are intelligent. 17 00:01:26,623 --> 00:01:28,522 Yes. 18 00:01:28,523 --> 00:01:35,452 Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya was a great impersonalist and a great logician. 19 00:01:35,453 --> 00:01:42,972 The impersonalist school, amongst them, there are very, very learned scholars. 20 00:01:42,973 --> 00:01:49,022 Śaṅkarācārya himself, he was unique scholar. 21 00:01:49,023 --> 00:01:54,902 At the age of eight years only, he studied all the Vedas. 22 00:01:54,903 --> 00:02:01,912 And not only he studied, he became a critical student, Śaṅkarācārya. 23 00:02:01,913 --> 00:02:10,132 He was incarnation of Lord Śiva; therefore nobody can be compared with him. 24 00:02:10,133 --> 00:02:13,862 So amongst the impersonalist school, 25 00:02:13,863 --> 00:02:20,152 there are many great logicians and high class scholars. 26 00:02:20,153 --> 00:02:25,212 But according to Vedic principles, 27 00:02:25,213 --> 00:02:33,123 God realization does not depend on material intelligence or scholarship. 28 00:02:33,124 --> 00:02:39,873 It is stated in the Vedas, nāyam ātmā pravacanena labhyaḥ [?]: 29 00:02:39,874 --> 00:02:53,083 “You cannot realize the self simply by arguments or very scholarly speeches.” 30 00:02:53,084 --> 00:02:55,073 No. 31 00:02:55,074 --> 00:03:00,773 Nāyam ātmā pravacanena labhyo na bahunā śrutena [?]: 32 00:03:00,774 --> 00:03:07,833 “Neither by studying many, many different types of Vedic literatures.” 33 00:03:07,834 --> 00:03:15,213 Nāyam ātmā pravacanena labhyo na bahunā śrutena na medhayā [?]: 34 00:03:15,214 --> 00:03:21,063 “Neither by sharp brain or memory.” 35 00:03:21,064 --> 00:03:25,683 These are good qualifications—to be scholarly, 36 00:03:25,684 --> 00:03:32,983 to be a very good speaker, and to have very good memorizing power. 37 00:03:32,984 --> 00:03:37,103 These are materially very good qualifications. 38 00:03:37,104 --> 00:03:44,473 But they are not qualification for realizing God. 39 00:03:44,474 --> 00:03:49,243 Then what is the qualification of realizing God? 40 00:03:49,244 --> 00:03:54,033 Yam evaiṣa vṛṇute tena labhyaḥ [?]: 41 00:03:54,034 --> 00:04:01,083 “God can be realized only to whom He reveals.” 42 00:04:01,084 --> 00:04:08,243 You cannot oblige God to become manifest before you 43 00:04:08,244 --> 00:04:11,073 because you are very good scholar 44 00:04:11,074 --> 00:04:14,964 or you are a very rich man or you are very good looking 45 00:04:14,965 --> 00:04:18,154 or you have got very good memorizing power. 46 00:04:18,155 --> 00:04:20,604 No. 47 00:04:20,605 --> 00:04:22,534 Yam evaiṣa vṛṇute. 48 00:04:22,535 --> 00:04:31,064 When He is pleased, then He reveals unto the devotee. 49 00:04:31,065 --> 00:04:37,104 Therefore our business should be, for God realization, to please Him. 50 00:04:37,105 --> 00:04:41,334 And that pleasing process is this devotional service. 51 00:04:41,335 --> 00:04:48,964 Let us engage in His service, and when He becomes pleased, “Yes. 52 00:04:48,965 --> 00:04:53,224 He’s very sincerely…” Just like the gopīs. 53 00:04:53,225 --> 00:04:58,764 They were village girls, not even born of very high family. 54 00:04:58,765 --> 00:05:03,844 Cowherds, ordinary agriculturists, cowherds men. 55 00:05:03,845 --> 00:05:08,694 So how much education you can…? There was no education practically. 56 00:05:08,695 --> 00:05:15,024 In the village even men… In India still, they are ninety-percent illiterate. 57 00:05:15,025 --> 00:05:19,264 And what to speak of the girls, the men are not even literate. 58 00:05:19,265 --> 00:05:22,804 Because according to Vedic civilization 59 00:05:22,805 --> 00:05:27,354 it was not necessary that everyone should go to school. 60 00:05:27,355 --> 00:05:28,744 There was no necessity. 61 00:05:28,745 --> 00:05:34,665 Because things were being learned by śruti, by aural reception. 62 00:05:34,666 --> 00:05:41,675 Knowledge from the perfect man, one would hear, and he would become learned. 63 00:05:41,676 --> 00:05:47,065 There was no necessity of, I mean to say, learning ABCD. No. 64 00:05:47,066 --> 00:05:52,825 Even in Vedic age, everything was memorized. There was nothing in writing. 65 00:05:52,826 --> 00:05:59,005 People were so sharp in brain that once heard from the spiritual master, 66 00:05:59,006 --> 00:06:01,835 they will never forget. 67 00:06:01,836 --> 00:06:08,605 The brahmacārī system made their brain so powerful 68 00:06:08,606 --> 00:06:12,615 that whatever they will hear from the spiritual master, 69 00:06:12,616 --> 00:06:15,005 they will keep in the brain and never forget. 70 00:06:15,006 --> 00:06:17,335 They will repeat verbatim. 71 00:06:17,336 --> 00:06:20,565 Smṛti. It is called retaining power. 72 00:06:20,566 --> 00:06:28,775 So God realization does not depend on material opulence. 73 00:06:28,776 --> 00:06:36,745 Material opulence means to take birth in high family, janma. 74 00:06:36,746 --> 00:06:39,645 Janma means high parentage. 75 00:06:39,646 --> 00:06:45,355 Then… Janmaiśvarya, and wealthy, great riches. 76 00:06:45,356 --> 00:06:52,235 These are material opulences: high parentage, great riches, and great learning, 77 00:06:52,236 --> 00:06:55,235 and great beauty. 78 00:06:55,236 --> 00:06:58,766 These four things are material opulences. 79 00:06:58,767 --> 00:07:01,566 Janmaiśvarya-śruta-śrī. 80 00:07:01,567 --> 00:07:06,546 Janma means birth, aiśvarya means wealth, 81 00:07:06,547 --> 00:07:11,606 and śruta means education, and śrī means beauty. 82 00:07:11,607 --> 00:07:17,386 So for God realization these things are not essential, 83 00:07:17,387 --> 00:07:23,176 but Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement can utilize everything. 84 00:07:23,177 --> 00:07:27,156 So nothing is neglected. That is another point. 85 00:07:27,157 --> 00:07:32,366 But if somebody thinks that “I have got all these opulences; 86 00:07:32,367 --> 00:07:40,426 therefore God realization is very easy for me,” no, that is not. 87 00:07:40,427 --> 00:07:44,426 So God realization depends on God, because God, 88 00:07:44,427 --> 00:07:50,546 you cannot oblige God by some force. 89 00:07:50,547 --> 00:07:55,466 Just like if you have got money, oh, you can do anything nowadays. 90 00:07:55,467 --> 00:08:03,476 If you have got strength of wealth, you can have any power, you can do anything. 91 00:08:03,477 --> 00:08:07,486 But that does not mean that you can purchase God. No. 92 00:08:07,487 --> 00:08:08,996 That is not possible. 93 00:08:08,997 --> 00:08:17,806 If you have got beauty, you can conquer over very stalwart, very strong men. 94 00:08:17,807 --> 00:08:21,206 Just like what is the… Cleopatra. 95 00:08:21,207 --> 00:08:24,036 You have heard the Grecian history. 96 00:08:24,037 --> 00:08:29,696 She was very beautiful, and she conquered many great warriors. 97 00:08:29,697 --> 00:08:35,147 So beauty sometimes can conquer even the greatest man, 98 00:08:35,148 --> 00:08:39,147 but that does not mean beauty can conquer God. No. 99 00:08:39,148 --> 00:08:40,797 That is not possible. 100 00:08:40,798 --> 00:08:44,857 So the vairāgya-vidyā-nija-bhakti-yoga [Cc. Madya 6.254]. 101 00:08:44,858 --> 00:08:49,077 To conquer God is bhakti. 102 00:08:49,078 --> 00:08:55,237 If you are advanced in devotional service, then you can conquer God. 103 00:08:55,238 --> 00:09:00,187 Just like the gopīs, as I was speaking, 104 00:09:00,188 --> 00:09:04,687 their parentage was not very high, not at all high. 105 00:09:04,688 --> 00:09:12,807 Village, agriculturists, farmers, no education, practical… No education at all. 106 00:09:12,808 --> 00:09:14,787 And they were not rich at all. 107 00:09:14,788 --> 00:09:18,257 Agriculturists, farmers, they are not very rich. 108 00:09:18,258 --> 00:09:22,267 So how they conquered Kṛṣṇa? 109 00:09:22,268 --> 00:09:27,587 Kṛṣṇa was just a play toy in their hands. 110 00:09:27,588 --> 00:09:31,017 Gopī-bhāva-rasāmṛtābdhi-laharī [?]. 111 00:09:31,018 --> 00:09:37,457 They conquered Kṛṣṇa simply by devotional service. That’s all. 112 00:09:37,458 --> 00:09:42,247 They did not know anything except Kṛṣṇa. 113 00:09:42,248 --> 00:09:46,847 They did not, I mean to say, care anything. 114 00:09:46,848 --> 00:09:49,807 always they were thinking of Kṛṣṇa. 115 00:09:49,808 --> 00:09:56,338 The one instance of their absorption in Kṛṣṇa consciousness is explained, 116 00:09:56,339 --> 00:10:00,888 that when Kṛṣṇa was going on the pasturing ground, 117 00:10:00,889 --> 00:10:04,358 the gopīs were crying at home. 118 00:10:04,359 --> 00:10:05,408 Why? 119 00:10:05,409 --> 00:10:11,558 They were thinking that “Kṛṣṇa’s body is so delicate, so soft, 120 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:18,608 that we, when we take His lotus feet and place on our breast or chest, 121 00:10:18,609 --> 00:10:22,248 we think it is hard, very hard for Him. 122 00:10:22,249 --> 00:10:26,597 So Kṛṣṇa is walking in the forest. 123 00:10:26,598 --> 00:10:30,077 There are so many particles of stones. 124 00:10:30,078 --> 00:10:34,797 They are pricking, and how much Kṛṣṇa is feeling pain.” 125 00:10:34,798 --> 00:10:40,787 This thinking made, caused their crying, “How Kṛṣṇa is feeling pain.” 126 00:10:40,788 --> 00:10:44,688 And the whole day, they will think of Kṛṣṇa like that, 127 00:10:44,689 --> 00:10:48,638 and when Kṛṣṇa will come back from the pasturing ground, 128 00:10:48,639 --> 00:10:53,468 then they will be relieved that “Kṛṣṇa has now come back.” 129 00:10:53,469 --> 00:10:55,228 This was their business. 130 00:10:55,229 --> 00:10:58,668 Now, this sort of thinking of Kṛṣṇa 131 00:10:58,669 --> 00:11:06,918 does not require any riches or any high parentage or any beauty or any education. 132 00:11:06,919 --> 00:11:11,538 So we have to develop such Kṛṣṇa consciousness. 133 00:11:11,539 --> 00:11:15,668 Our, this Gauḍīya-sampradāya, 134 00:11:15,669 --> 00:11:20,628 Caitanya Mahāprabhu’s, in Caitanya Mahāprabhu’s descendants, 135 00:11:20,629 --> 00:11:28,648 our line of God realization is that separation, feeling of separation. 136 00:11:28,649 --> 00:11:33,428 Not that we have got Kṛṣṇa within our hand. No. 137 00:11:33,429 --> 00:11:35,438 The feeling of separation, 138 00:11:35,439 --> 00:11:39,158 worship of Kṛṣṇa by feeling of separation 139 00:11:39,159 --> 00:11:43,538 is better than the worship by directly meeting. 140 00:11:43,539 --> 00:11:45,538 Vipralambha-sevā. 141 00:11:45,539 --> 00:11:50,668 So this vairāgya-vidyā, renunciation… 142 00:11:50,669 --> 00:11:52,768 Vairāgya-vidyā-nija-bhakti-yoga [Cc. Madya 6.254]. 143 00:11:52,769 --> 00:11:55,648 Bhakti-yoga means vairāgya-vidyā. 144 00:11:55,649 --> 00:12:00,388 Vairāgya-vidyā means no more attachment for this material world. 145 00:12:00,389 --> 00:12:01,808 That is vairāgya. 146 00:12:01,809 --> 00:12:05,869 So bhakti-yoga means vairāgya-vidyā. 147 00:12:05,870 --> 00:12:11,999 So this Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya said, vairāgya-vidyā-nija-bhakti-yogam [?]. 148 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:18,139 This vairāgya-vidyā means bhakti-yogam…, śikṣārtham ekaḥ puruṣaḥ purāṇaḥ [?]. 149 00:12:18,140 --> 00:12:22,739 So Kṛṣṇa, the supreme original personality, 150 00:12:22,740 --> 00:12:27,769 He has come down to teach us this vairāgya-vidyā. 151 00:12:27,770 --> 00:12:32,219 Vairāgya-vidyā-nija-bhakti-yoga- śikṣārtham ekaḥ puruṣaḥ purāṇaḥ [?], 152 00:12:32,220 --> 00:12:35,219 śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya-śarīra-dhārī [Cc. Madya 6.254]. 153 00:12:35,220 --> 00:12:37,209 Śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya. 154 00:12:37,210 --> 00:12:44,059 Śrī Kṛṣṇa has appeared in the form of Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya. 155 00:12:44,060 --> 00:12:49,769 So Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya says, “My respectful obeisances unto Him.” 156 00:12:49,770 --> 00:12:58,309 So naturally this context came into my mind—these boys’ vairāgya. 157 00:12:58,310 --> 00:13:04,969 So one who becomes advanced in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, 158 00:13:04,970 --> 00:13:09,239 naturally they become disinterested 159 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:14,009 for any material pompous name.[?] They do not care. So vairāgya. 160 00:13:14,010 --> 00:13:17,819 This bhakti-yoga means vairāgya-vidyā. 161 00:13:17,820 --> 00:13:31,879 You can chant Hare Kṛṣṇa [break] KARANDHARA: …Vaiṣṇava earlier. 162 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,369 Oh. What is the price of this? 163 00:13:34,370 --> 00:13:36,449 GARGAMUNI: No charge. No. What do they sell? 164 00:13:36,450 --> 00:13:40,409 Oh. This drum was broken, but he gave it to us free. 165 00:13:40,410 --> 00:13:43,589 I do not know what the… It was, it is broken? 166 00:13:43,590 --> 00:13:46,739 It was broken, but we fixed it. 167 00:13:46,740 --> 00:13:50,909 Oh. 168 00:13:50,910 --> 00:13:53,869 All right. 169 00:13:53,870 --> 00:13:55,029 When they give in charity, 170 00:13:55,030 --> 00:14:01,650 they give something broken [laughter] [Bengali] 171 00:14:01,651 --> 00:14:04,140 Khana goruke brāhmaṇake dana [?]. 172 00:14:04,141 --> 00:14:10,140 In India there is a…, charity is given to the brāhmaṇas. 173 00:14:10,141 --> 00:14:15,480 So a man saw that his cow is blind. 174 00:14:15,481 --> 00:14:22,150 “All right, give it in charity.” 175 00:14:22,151 --> 00:14:30,720 So charity means… Charity should be the first-class thing if it is really charity. 176 00:14:30,721 --> 00:14:35,120 But nowadays people give in charity just for name. 177 00:14:35,121 --> 00:14:38,470 “Oh, I am giving something.” 178 00:14:38,471 --> 00:14:41,700 This charity… You have read Bhagavad-gītā. 179 00:14:41,701 --> 00:14:46,390 There are three kinds of charity: sattvic, rajasic, tamasic. 180 00:14:46,391 --> 00:14:50,960 Sattvic, charity in goodness, 181 00:14:50,961 --> 00:14:58,060 is with due consideration that “Here should be given the charity.” 182 00:14:58,061 --> 00:15:02,870 Just like the Vedic injunction is to give charity to the brāhmaṇas. 183 00:15:02,871 --> 00:15:04,400 Why? 184 00:15:04,401 --> 00:15:10,310 That is the worthy place, to give charity in the hands of brāhmaṇas and Vaiṣṇava. 185 00:15:10,311 --> 00:15:11,680 Real brāhmaṇas. 186 00:15:11,681 --> 00:15:14,220 I don’t say caste brāhmaṇa. 187 00:15:14,221 --> 00:15:17,644 Because they will employ whatever you give them 188 00:15:17,645 --> 00:15:19,031 in the service of the Lord. [splice] 189 00:15:19,032 --> 00:15:22,101 There is no question of profit or name. 190 00:15:22,102 --> 00:15:24,331 But, “Charity should be given here. 191 00:15:24,332 --> 00:15:27,521 Here is something, God’s service.” That is sattvic. 192 00:15:27,522 --> 00:15:31,821 And rajasic means for the sake of name. 193 00:15:31,822 --> 00:15:35,481 “Oh, people will say I am so charitable.” That is rajasic. 194 00:15:35,482 --> 00:15:39,151 And tamasic, one who does not know where the money is going… 195 00:15:39,152 --> 00:15:41,991 Just like in the Bowery Street some, 196 00:15:41,992 --> 00:15:47,241 that drunkard comes and polishes the motorcar, and somebody gives five dollars, 197 00:15:47,242 --> 00:15:49,921 and he immediately goes to drink. 198 00:15:49,922 --> 00:15:55,261 That means this charity means give him impetus for drinking. 199 00:15:55,262 --> 00:15:59,471 So if charity creates such drunkard, oh, that is very dangerous. 200 00:15:59,472 --> 00:16:02,661 He has to suffer, the man who is giving in charity. 201 00:16:02,662 --> 00:16:06,451 Therefore in charity also there must be consideration. 202 00:16:06,452 --> 00:16:08,241 It must be sattvic. 203 00:16:08,242 --> 00:16:12,351 So anyway, it has come here. So it is sattvic. 204 00:16:12,352 --> 00:16:18,151 Whatever his mind may be, anyway, he has given to this temple; so it is sattvic. 205 00:16:18,152 --> 00:16:23,147 Chant [end] 206 00:16:23,148 --> 00:16:23,149 Subtitles by Gaurāṅga Sundara Dāsa, Causelessmercy.com