0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:15,427 MW BOM 1975-11-24 No Rain-Chant 1 00:00:15,428 --> 00:00:18,376 ANNOUNCER: The following is a morning walk conversation, 2 00:00:18,377 --> 00:00:23,684 with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, 3 00:00:23,685 --> 00:00:47,742 recorded on the 24th of November, 1975, in Bombay, India. 4 00:00:47,743 --> 00:00:50,862 PRABHUPĀDA: And therefore they’re suffering. 5 00:00:50,863 --> 00:00:58,235 The whole world is suffering on this misconception. 6 00:00:58,236 --> 00:01:00,095 The horse also. 7 00:01:00,096 --> 00:01:08,986 As soon as he gets one… somebody on his back he become jubilant immediately. 8 00:01:08,987 --> 00:01:10,066 This is the nature. 9 00:01:10,067 --> 00:01:13,006 jīvera ‘svarūpa’ haya—kṛṣṇera ‘nitya-dāsa’ [Cc. Madhya 20.108] 10 00:01:13,007 --> 00:01:14,882 Hare Kṛṣṇa. 11 00:01:14,883 --> 00:01:21,263 Jaya. 12 00:01:21,264 --> 00:01:22,256 Jaya. [break] 13 00:01:22,257 --> 00:01:28,144 …vantam eva caran nirāntaraṁ prasanta-niḥśeṣa-mano-rathāntaram 14 00:01:28,145 --> 00:01:34,756 kadāham aikāntika-nitya-kiṅkaraḥ praharsayīśyāmi sanātha-jīvitam [Stotra-ratna 43] 15 00:01:34,757 --> 00:01:37,845 This is Vaiṣṇava aspiration. 16 00:01:37,846 --> 00:01:41,396 bhavantam evānucaran nirantaraḥ: [Stotra-ratna 43] 17 00:01:41,397 --> 00:01:47,111 “Twenty-four hours simply carrying Your orders.” 18 00:01:47,112 --> 00:01:49,690 And you can do it. 19 00:01:49,691 --> 00:01:52,476 “But it is not possible.” 20 00:01:52,477 --> 00:01:55,550 The mind is checking. 21 00:01:55,551 --> 00:01:59,508 praśānta-niḥśeṣa-manorathāntaraḥ [Stotra-ratna 43] 22 00:01:59,509 --> 00:02:06,499 Unless one’s mind is fixed up, he cannot become servant of God. 23 00:02:06,500 --> 00:02:09,711 kadāham aikāntika-nitya-kiṅkaraḥ [Stotra-ratna 43] 24 00:02:09,712 --> 00:02:17,186 “In this way, when I shall be absolutely Your servant and live very joyfully…” 25 00:02:17,187 --> 00:02:20,675 That “I have got my master.” 26 00:02:20,676 --> 00:02:23,906 This is Yamunacārya’s verse. 27 00:02:23,907 --> 00:02:30,386 bhavantam evānucaran nirantaraḥ praśānta-niḥśeṣa-manorathāntaraḥ 28 00:02:30,387 --> 00:02:36,743 kadāham aikāntika-nitya-kiṅkaraḥ praharṣayiṣyāmi sanātha-jīvitam [Stotra-ratna 43] 29 00:02:36,744 --> 00:02:38,154 DR. PATEL: Sanātha-jīva. 30 00:02:38,155 --> 00:02:42,003 They are all anātha-jīvita. 31 00:02:42,004 --> 00:02:53,791 Yes; everyone is independence and anātha. 32 00:02:53,792 --> 00:03:00,507 There is nātha, but he’ll not recognize. 33 00:03:00,508 --> 00:03:04,971 Anātha-jīvita. 34 00:03:04,972 --> 00:03:15,934 bhavantam evānucaran nirantaraḥ praśānta… [Stotra-ratna 43] 35 00:03:15,935 --> 00:03:22,005 So we are educating people how to become sanātha-jīvitam. 36 00:03:22,006 --> 00:03:26,766 Live on your master’s… 37 00:03:26,767 --> 00:03:33,017 Everyone is living at the cost of master, but foolishly. 38 00:03:33,018 --> 00:03:39,583 ahāṅkara-vimūḍhātmā kartāham iti manyate [Bg. 3.27] 39 00:03:39,584 --> 00:03:46,876 They are living at the cost of the master, but they will not accept. 40 00:03:46,877 --> 00:03:52,708 This is the disease. [break] 41 00:03:52,709 --> 00:04:04,510 …natural life: Sanātha-jīvitam; from the birth the child is sanātha—parents. 42 00:04:04,511 --> 00:04:08,458 Where is the possibility of living independently? 43 00:04:08,459 --> 00:04:15,690 That’s not possible. 44 00:04:15,691 --> 00:04:20,684 Yamunācārya was śiṣya or guru of Rāmānujācārya? 45 00:04:20,685 --> 00:04:25,731 - Rāmānujācārya was guru or śiṣya? Guru. - Yes, guru. 46 00:04:25,732 --> 00:04:29,444 I think Viṣṇuswami was his śiṣya, eh? 47 00:04:29,445 --> 00:04:33,599 No; Viṣṇuswami- sampradāya [is] different. 48 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,103 That is Rudra-sampradāya. 49 00:04:37,104 --> 00:04:45,191 And Rāmānujācārya is Śrī-sampradāya. 50 00:04:45,192 --> 00:04:52,706 The Vallabhācāryas: They belong to Viṣṇu-sampradāya. 51 00:04:52,707 --> 00:04:56,263 We belong to Madhva-sampradāya. 52 00:04:56,264 --> 00:05:00,334 Four ācāryas. 53 00:05:00,335 --> 00:05:02,447 YAŚOMATĪNANDANA: Who was the originator of Śrī-sampradāya? 54 00:05:02,448 --> 00:05:06,578 - Hmm? Lakṣmīji. - Who was before it? 55 00:05:06,579 --> 00:05:09,992 Pāda-sevanam. 56 00:05:09,993 --> 00:05:15,339 śravaṇaṁ kīrtanaṁ viṣṇoḥ smaraṇaṁ pāda-sevanam [SB 7.5.23] 57 00:05:15,340 --> 00:05:25,009 Lakṣmīji is always engaged in massaging the feet of Lord Viṣṇu. 58 00:05:25,010 --> 00:05:29,334 - Rāmānujācārya is the biggest in line? - Ahh; yes. 59 00:05:29,335 --> 00:05:34,690 Hare Kṛṣṇa; jaya. [splice] 60 00:05:34,691 --> 00:05:40,921 …thinking, “I am English dog,” and he is thinking, “I am…” And the man is thinking… 61 00:05:40,922 --> 00:05:42,715 The man is also thinking like that. 62 00:05:42,716 --> 00:05:44,206 What is the difference? 63 00:05:44,207 --> 00:05:46,576 They both… both are animals. 64 00:05:46,577 --> 00:05:48,301 yasyātmā buddhiḥ kuṇape tri-dhātuke [SB 10.84.13] 65 00:05:48,302 --> 00:05:51,588 That’s right; we have got a dvija, dvija-karma kriya. 66 00:05:51,589 --> 00:05:54,756 Dvijā-karma-kriya or what do you call it? 67 00:05:54,757 --> 00:05:59,221 - All the… All are born as animal. - Saṁskāra. 68 00:05:59,222 --> 00:06:01,969 - Saṁskārād bhaved dvijaḥ. - Saṁskāra, yes. 69 00:06:01,970 --> 00:06:04,998 Dvija-saṁskāra. 70 00:06:04,999 --> 00:06:10,262 That saṁskāra is now stopped; therefore, all of them are animals. 71 00:06:10,263 --> 00:06:15,507 Yes. [break] 72 00:06:15,508 --> 00:06:19,054 The murgis, [chickens] they are in the cowshed? 73 00:06:19,055 --> 00:06:23,804 That man who is looking after cows; he must be keeping. 74 00:06:23,805 --> 00:06:25,181 For andha [eggs]? 75 00:06:25,182 --> 00:06:27,009 For everything. 76 00:06:27,010 --> 00:06:33,575 - They… Even the… - Murgis. 77 00:06:33,576 --> 00:06:37,460 Nowadays this meat-eating has become very widespread in India. 78 00:06:37,461 --> 00:06:42,229 Even brāhmaṇas are eating meat, huh? 79 00:06:42,230 --> 00:06:45,805 I don’t mean those who have gone to Europe or America and come back, 80 00:06:45,806 --> 00:06:50,130 but a… others… people who are staying here even, hmm? 81 00:06:50,131 --> 00:06:52,917 Extremely common. 82 00:06:52,918 --> 00:07:00,066 That is the sign that in very near future there will be no food grains. 83 00:07:00,067 --> 00:07:02,875 That is the sign. 84 00:07:02,876 --> 00:07:06,786 There will be no rice, no wheat. 85 00:07:06,787 --> 00:07:08,734 Main food grain. 86 00:07:08,735 --> 00:07:12,856 Already in Bombay it’s six, seven rupees per kilo: rice. 87 00:07:12,857 --> 00:07:13,682 Ācchā? 88 00:07:13,683 --> 00:07:16,165 No, no. now… now rice will be very much down. 89 00:07:16,166 --> 00:07:18,520 In Gujarat it is two rupees. 90 00:07:18,521 --> 00:07:22,753 I bought some land here and sown the rice. 91 00:07:22,754 --> 00:07:26,360 We are going to get about eight hundred or a thousand mounds of rice. 92 00:07:26,361 --> 00:07:31,037 And then we sown the field it was sixty rupees, rice. 93 00:07:31,038 --> 00:07:33,316 Today it is thirty-two rupees. 94 00:07:33,317 --> 00:07:34,711 It is coming down. 95 00:07:34,712 --> 00:07:41,248 The crop is very good… Very good everywhere, all over India this year. 96 00:07:41,249 --> 00:07:47,667 - Because there was sufficient rain. - Very good rain; yes. 97 00:07:47,668 --> 00:07:49,591 Gujarat will be more than self-sufficient. 98 00:07:49,592 --> 00:07:52,485 It is already the richest part of this country. 99 00:07:52,486 --> 00:07:53,938 Parjanyāt. 100 00:07:53,939 --> 00:08:00,600 parjanyād anna-sambhavaḥ annād bhavati bhūtāni [Bg. 3.14] 101 00:08:00,601 --> 00:08:01,810 It is… 102 00:08:01,811 --> 00:08:03,635 It is a cycle. 103 00:08:03,636 --> 00:08:07,620 Perform yajña and everything will come. 104 00:08:07,621 --> 00:08:09,894 They stopped yajña… 105 00:08:09,895 --> 00:08:12,314 Therefore harināma-yajña. 106 00:08:12,315 --> 00:08:15,762 - This is the yajña. - Viṣṇu… Viṣṇur vai yajñaḥ. 107 00:08:15,763 --> 00:08:20,856 - Viṣṇu Himself is yajña. - Hm. [break] 108 00:08:20,857 --> 00:08:22,492 DEVOTEE: …who are saying 109 00:08:22,493 --> 00:08:25,903 that it is because of our chanting twenty-four hours a day 110 00:08:25,904 --> 00:08:28,043 there is more rain this year. 111 00:08:28,044 --> 00:08:30,915 In Hyderabad they also say. 112 00:08:30,916 --> 00:08:33,879 Six or seven years there was no rain. 113 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,532 Now it is raining. 114 00:08:36,533 --> 00:08:42,674 This is practical. [break] 115 00:08:42,675 --> 00:08:46,357 …yanti bhūtāni. 116 00:08:46,358 --> 00:08:49,292 DEVOTEE IN DISTANCE: Haribol! - Hare Kṛṣṇa; jaya. 117 00:08:49,293 --> 00:08:51,945 - Who is that; [indistinct]? - Yes. [splice] 118 00:08:51,946 --> 00:08:54,183 Not for sense gratification. 119 00:08:54,184 --> 00:08:56,444 Then you will suffer. 120 00:08:56,445 --> 00:09:02,436 They are all working for sense gratification; not Yajñārthe. 121 00:09:02,437 --> 00:09:06,710 yajñārthāt karmaṇo 'nyatra loko 'yaṁ karma-bandhanaḥ 122 00:09:06,711 --> 00:09:11,197 tad-arthaṁ karma kaunteya mukta-saṅgaḥ samācara [Bg. 3.9] 123 00:09:11,198 --> 00:09:16,203 But here, sir, parjanyād anna sambhavaḥ [Bg 3.14]. 124 00:09:16,204 --> 00:09:16,778 There, 125 00:09:16,779 --> 00:09:22,237 annād bhavanti bhūtāni yajñaḥ karma-samudbhavaḥ [Bg 3.14] 126 00:09:22,238 --> 00:09:26,797 karma brahmodbhavaṁ viddhi brahmākṣara-samudbhavam [Bg 3.15] 127 00:09:26,798 --> 00:09:29,969 That means karma as ordained by the scriptures, brahmodbhavam. 128 00:09:29,970 --> 00:09:32,199 Yes, that is karma. 129 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,507 Otherwise vikarma. 130 00:09:34,508 --> 00:09:36,404 But they are doing vikarma. 131 00:09:36,405 --> 00:09:43,810 nūnaṁ pramattaḥ kurute vikarma yad indriya-prītaya āpṛṇoti [SB 5.5.4] 132 00:09:43,811 --> 00:09:48,975 This is vikarma: Anyone working hard day and night for sense gratification. 133 00:09:48,976 --> 00:09:53,180 That means sinful: Vikarma. 134 00:09:53,181 --> 00:09:56,266 And if you don’t do the ordained [indistinct] akarma. 135 00:09:56,267 --> 00:09:57,888 - No. - It is akarma. 136 00:09:57,889 --> 00:10:01,038 Karma means according to the śāstra’s direction. 137 00:10:01,039 --> 00:10:03,635 But if you don’t do that, that becomes akarma. 138 00:10:03,636 --> 00:10:04,682 Vikarma. 139 00:10:04,683 --> 00:10:08,742 [Hindi] Akarma means… 140 00:10:08,743 --> 00:10:11,331 - [Hindi] - Akarma [indistinct]; yes. 141 00:10:11,332 --> 00:10:14,727 Akarma means no resultant action. 142 00:10:14,728 --> 00:10:16,999 When it is done for Viṣṇu… 143 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,926 - Then it becomes akarmaAkarma. - Akarma. 144 00:10:21,927 --> 00:10:25,495 But the… The akarma… A the… 145 00:10:25,496 --> 00:10:33,685 This bhāṣya of Rāmānujācārya: He say akarma means knowledge. 146 00:10:33,686 --> 00:10:35,201 - Yes. - And karma means… 147 00:10:35,202 --> 00:10:36,551 - And karma means… - Knowledge… 148 00:10:36,552 --> 00:10:40,852 That is knowledge that, “I have to work for Viṣṇu;” that is knowledge. 149 00:10:40,853 --> 00:10:48,343 - Akarma means knowledge. [indistinct] - Yes. 150 00:10:48,344 --> 00:10:55,153 Hare Kṛṣṇa. 151 00:10:55,154 --> 00:10:55,155 Subtitles by Pratyatoṣa Dāsa, Causelessmercy.com