0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:15,799 MW CHI 1975-07-06 These Demonic Communists Should Be Finished 1 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,651 ANNOUNCER: The following is a morning walk conversation, 2 00:00:18,652 --> 00:00:24,112 with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, 3 00:00:24,113 --> 00:00:47,652 recorded on the 6th of July, 1975, in Chicago, Illinois. 4 00:00:47,653 --> 00:00:48,736 PRABHUPĀDA: Why? 5 00:00:48,737 --> 00:00:50,474 JAGADĪŚA: Because it would greatly facilitate my preaching. 6 00:00:50,475 --> 00:00:53,376 - Huh? - It would greatly facilitate my preaching. 7 00:00:53,377 --> 00:00:55,937 You are already preaching. 8 00:00:55,938 --> 00:01:02,576 But many of the devotees are not [as] inclined to listen to a householder, 9 00:01:02,577 --> 00:01:04,729 as to a sannyāsī. 10 00:01:04,730 --> 00:01:09,120 Neither to the sannyāsīs. 11 00:01:09,121 --> 00:01:11,873 TAMĀLA KṚṢṆA: Prabhupāda, when you were… 12 00:01:11,874 --> 00:01:14,977 Many years ago you used to have me send you 13 00:01:14,978 --> 00:01:17,575 eucalyptus twigs from San Francisco. 14 00:01:17,576 --> 00:01:19,167 Hm, yes. 15 00:01:19,168 --> 00:01:24,372 So now that you’re in America we can easily arrange for that to be done. 16 00:01:24,373 --> 00:01:26,149 They can be sent. 17 00:01:26,150 --> 00:01:29,924 They take only one day by air. 18 00:01:29,925 --> 00:01:32,197 So wherefrom? 19 00:01:32,198 --> 00:01:36,522 Well, San Francisco is the best area for eucalyptus. 20 00:01:36,523 --> 00:01:42,241 - So, arrange. - We have them already, Mahārāja. 21 00:01:42,242 --> 00:01:50,946 - I’ll arrange today. - He cut one, four corner, square. 22 00:01:50,947 --> 00:01:53,615 - Square set, yes. - Square side. 23 00:01:53,616 --> 00:01:56,136 That is good, square and green. 24 00:01:56,137 --> 00:01:57,264 And green. 25 00:01:57,265 --> 00:02:02,566 And as thick as the finger? As thick as ones finger? 26 00:02:02,567 --> 00:02:05,274 No, no, this much. 27 00:02:05,275 --> 00:02:20,030 Top of the little finger. 28 00:02:20,031 --> 00:02:26,144 [break] …about forty miles off, there is a place known as Jneyo[?] Kali. 29 00:02:26,145 --> 00:02:29,568 There the Ganges is so vast. 30 00:02:29,569 --> 00:02:30,713 You have seen it? 31 00:02:30,714 --> 00:02:34,327 - No. Eh? - VIṢṆUJANA: I think so; I saw it three miles wide. 32 00:02:34,328 --> 00:02:39,472 One place where I was sailing on the Ganges it was three miles wide by Mangir. 33 00:02:39,473 --> 00:02:45,643 Oh, Mungir. Ah, Mungir is far off. It is near Calcutta. 34 00:02:45,644 --> 00:02:47,577 [break] …snowfall here? 35 00:02:47,578 --> 00:02:49,235 - Snowfall? - Very heavy snowfall. 36 00:02:49,236 --> 00:02:51,768 DEVOTEE (1): Oh, yes, it becomes very cold here. 37 00:02:51,769 --> 00:02:55,324 DHĪRA KṚṢṆA: …ice. In the winter time, this becomes ice. 38 00:02:55,325 --> 00:03:00,860 - Become ice? - Yes, everyone likes to go out and walk around on it. 39 00:03:00,861 --> 00:03:03,700 Ice skating. 40 00:03:03,701 --> 00:03:06,719 …any bird called thunderbird? 41 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,134 BAHULĀŚVA: Thunderbird? 42 00:03:08,135 --> 00:03:12,430 Big bird, big eagle. Big eagle, in the United States. 43 00:03:12,431 --> 00:03:17,155 No, big eagle, thunderbird. 44 00:03:17,156 --> 00:03:20,016 - Have seen in this car? BRAHMĀNANDA: Automobile is called. 45 00:03:20,017 --> 00:03:22,788 But actually is there any bird called thunderbird? 46 00:03:22,789 --> 00:03:27,247 Legendary bird from Indian legend. 47 00:03:27,248 --> 00:03:28,135 Indian legend? 48 00:03:28,136 --> 00:03:30,521 Of the American Indians, the red Indians. 49 00:03:30,522 --> 00:03:33,910 They um… Like sometimes their chiefs are called Chief Thunderbird. 50 00:03:33,911 --> 00:03:39,715 - It’s a popular… - It’s a popular name for their chiefs. 51 00:03:39,716 --> 00:03:42,692 Ah. Oh. 52 00:03:42,693 --> 00:03:46,745 We have got an idea of thunderbird. 53 00:03:46,746 --> 00:03:55,912 The bird flies in the, near the cloud in expectation of water, 54 00:03:55,913 --> 00:03:58,897 and they are not afraid of thunder. 55 00:03:58,898 --> 00:04:01,608 That is called cataka. 56 00:04:01,609 --> 00:04:05,009 That example is given by Rūpa Gosvāmī. 57 00:04:05,010 --> 00:04:08,864 The cataka does not take water from ground. 58 00:04:08,865 --> 00:04:15,073 They will take water when it falls from the cloud. 59 00:04:15,074 --> 00:04:20,142 So, in the beginning of every cloud there is thunder. 60 00:04:20,143 --> 00:04:24,279 So this bird, because they [are] expecting water from the cloud… 61 00:04:24,280 --> 00:04:26,798 [The] cloud is giving him thunder, 62 00:04:26,799 --> 00:04:33,049 but still he does not, will not take water from ground. 63 00:04:33,050 --> 00:04:36,933 What connection do the Gosvāmīs use that example to illustrate? 64 00:04:36,934 --> 00:04:44,491 Example means a devotee will take mercy from Kṛṣṇa, not from the material world. 65 00:04:44,492 --> 00:04:52,037 Even there is thunder, Kṛṣṇa does not give mercy but puts him into difficulty, 66 00:04:52,038 --> 00:04:55,727 still, he will not take any mercy from the [indistinct]. 67 00:04:55,728 --> 00:05:02,466 This is the… [break] - You are showing your mercy upon us. 68 00:05:02,467 --> 00:05:07,647 How do we prevent ourselves from becoming guru-druha, 69 00:05:07,648 --> 00:05:12,716 or ungrateful for the benediction you are giving us? 70 00:05:12,717 --> 00:05:15,897 So, you want to be guru-druha? 71 00:05:15,898 --> 00:05:17,019 - Eh? - No. 72 00:05:17,020 --> 00:05:33,246 That’s nice. 73 00:05:33,247 --> 00:05:33,248 Subtitles by Pratyatoṣa Dāsa, Causelessmercy.com