MW GEN 1974-06-06 One Machine Makes 100 Men Unemployed
ANNOUNCER: Next is a morning walk conversation
with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
recorded on June 6th, 1974, in Geneva, Switzerland.
PRABHUPĀDA: …is Geneva very many churches?
GURU GAURĀṄGA: Many churches in Geneva?
- No. - No. - Not so many.
That means godless.
Eh?
- Yes. - Yes.
When I first came to America, Butler, in Pennsylvania,
that is small county, but at least one dozen churches I found.
I very much appreciated, that the people are not…
And they’re going regularly, churches.
I was invited in many churches.
I was…
- YOGEŚVARA: To lecture? - Yes.
The… The girl that… My friend’s son’s wife…
He’s Indian.
He has married an English girl.
So I was guest at his house.
- So that girl, Sally… Selly or Sally? - Sally.
She was arranging so many meetings.
She was very intelligent girl.
So churches, many churches, she…
Some of the churches purchased my books.
Recently, one of our saṅkīrtana parties went to Butler, Pennsylvania,
and uh, one of the devotees met a… priest on the street.
He said: “Oh, yes, I remember your spiritual master.
He was here.”
So I was giving lectures; they have churches;
That means God consciousness is there.
I never criticized church, mosque, never.
Because whatever it may be, at least there is God consciousness.
So they’re good.
In details…
But when they disobey…
I… I criticize only these rascals, [when they] disobey the commandments.
Otherwise, we have no…
We don’t criticize.
- We’re not sectarian. - Eh? - We’re not sectarian.
Why?
God is one.
Why we shall be sectarian?
According to his circumstances, he is doing.
And that prayer is also bhakti, offering prayer.
śravaṇaṁ kīrtanaṁ viṣṇoḥ smaraṇaṁ pāda-sevanaṁ
…vandanam… [SB 7.5.23]
This vandana is prayer.
So that is bhakti, one of the items of bhakti.
Everyone needs to be encouraged.
Eh?
Everyone needs to be encouraged in their God consciousness.
smaraṇaṁ pāda-sevanam
arcanaṁ vandanaṁ dāsyaṁ sakhyam ātma-nivedanam [SB 7.5.23]
bhaktiś cen nava-lakṣaṇā [SB 7.5.24]
Bhakti is demonstrated in nine different symptoms.
So vandanam, offering prayers, that is bhakti.
PUṢṬA−KṚṢṆA: Is it required for them to have a spiritual master to guide them?
Certainly.
These rascals, the priests, they do not guide them; they are also fallen.
Otherwise, Christian religion is very nice.
If they follow.
So many times they asked me.
“Yes, if you follow your Christian religion, you’ll be perfect.”
Caitanya Mahāprabhu proved devotional service from Koran.
- Yes. - The Khān Vaiṣṇavas. - Yes.
So it requires the devotee who can explain from any godly literature about God.
How rascal they are!
“Jesus Christ ate fish.
Therefore we shall maintain big, big slaughterhouse.”
Just see the argument.
Then, in the Bengali, mosa makta kanan [?].
There was a mosquito, and one is asking, “Bring a cannon.”
“Bring a cannon.”
Mosa makta kanan.
Jesus Christ ate somewhere; there was no food available to eat, might have.
Accepting he ate, but does it mean that you have to maintain slaughterhouse?
Just see.
And besides that, he might have done anything.
He’s powerful.
He can eat.
Therefore the other day I said, “He can eat the whole world.”
But you cannot imitate.
You have to follow his instruction.
That is Christianity. [splice]
One, in Delhi, when our festival was going on, we invited a big chemist.
He admitted that “Our chemical advance, scientific advancement is like this.”
He explained very nicely.
You were present?
- Where? - In Delhi?
He said that a man who has learned the art to, what is called,
barking like dog, and people will go to see, purchasing ticket,
ten rupees, twenty rupees, how the man is barking like a dog.
And there are so many dogs barking; they won’t see.
This is our advancement.
If a man has artificially learned how to bark, they’ll go to see by paying fees.
And the natural barking, they don’t.
So these rascals are like that.
They’re trying to manufacture life.
And so many life is coming by nature’s process,
millions and millions; that is no credit.
And he’s trying, utopian, he’ll create life by chemical combination, he’s given all credit,
Nobel Prize: “Oh, here is a man.”
This is rascaldom.
So what credit you’ll get.
Suppose if you can manufacture a man or an animal in the laboratory:
Where is your credit?
There are many millions and millions are coming automatically.
We are trying to give credit to Kṛṣṇa who is making all this creation.
There is one Englishman named Aldous Huxley…
- Yes. - who wrote a book called
Brave New World, and in that book,
he predicted something that’s coming true now,
that there would be a process of biologically screening babies,
so that men could be breeded like animals, like they breed animals.
So they would take one strain of chromosomes,
and breed a class of men who would make perfect administrators,
and then they would breed another class of men that would be perfect śūdras,
and they would breed another class of men who would be perfect scientists.
And that is already there.
guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ [Bg 4.13]
In Vedic astrology, jāta- karma, they will say that,
“This child is a śūdra, this child is a brāhmaṇa,
this child is a kṣatriya.”
By the birth, by the constellation of the stars, it will be done.
It is already being done.
And in the medical laboratory, the blood has been tested,
brāhmaṇa, śūdra, vaiśya; there is different blood.
- Wow. - Yes.
The blood infusion.
So if the, a different blood is infused, it does not act.
So one doctor, in India,
he was permanently keeping different bloods for different persons.
So there is some meaning in the caste system.
But that is not…
In a brāhmaṇa family, a śūdra may also take birth.
Śūdra blood.
So to keep the blood brahminical, therefore the reformatory system is there,
garbhādhāna-saṁskāra and all the saṁskāras.
Before birth, they keep, to keep the blood brahminical, there is ceremony.
SATSVARŪPA: Yesterday you said when one becomes initiated
by a bona fide spiritual master, his body changes.
Yes.
Even if he was mleccha, [he] can become brāhmaṇa.
Actually, the chemists also say there are four types of blood,
A, AB, O, or something like that.
They give it four names.
And according to Hindu system, the marriage was taking place find…,
examining the girl’s constitution and the boy’s constitution
so that there may not be disruption.
Everything was there.
Subtitles by Gopī Kāntā Dāsa, Causelessmercy.com Edited by Pratyatoṣa Dāsa Sponsored by Dr. Douglas Maki