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MW GER 1974-06-17 Fools' Paradise Lost
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ANNOUNCER: The following is
a morning walk conversation,
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with His Divine Grace
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
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recorded on the 17th of
June, 1974, in Germany.
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DEVOTEE: Of all the four pillars of sinful
activity, is meat-eating the worst?
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PRABHUPĀDA: Everything is worst.
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Sinful is sinful.
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Disease is disease.
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This body: Either it is living or it is
dead, it is not very important thing.
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And the whole world
is after this body.
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Kṛṣṇa says, “The body,
either dead or alive:
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It is not a subject matter
for serious consideration.”
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Now see.
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And what the world is going on?
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Simply for bodily…
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Body means senses.
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It is very difficult for the western
people to understand that:
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Body is not important thing;
the soul is important thing.
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First of all, they do
not know what is soul.
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And if one cannot understand what is
soul, what he will understand about God?
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Soul is the minute particle of God.
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If one cannot understand
about this minute particle,
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then what he’ll understand
of the Supreme?
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In the laboratory, if you
can test a little sample…
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Just like take a little sea water:
Analyze: You chemically test.
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Then you can understand what is
the composition of the sea water.
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But if you have no knowledge
even a small drop of sea water,
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how you’ll understand
the sea, what…
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That is their position.
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They do not understand even the
sample of spirit soul, as we are.
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Simply they are trying to cover it.
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“There is no soul; there is no soul.
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Life is generated from matter.”
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Although they cannot prove it.
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A fool’s paradise.
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The fools, rascals:
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They are explaining the living force in
some way, and other fools are accepting.
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This is the position of western
countries, Europe and America.
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Fool’s paradise.
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It is paradise, certainly.
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Very, very, big, big building and
advancement, but all rascals and fools.
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Fool’s paradise.
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And if you call a fool
a fool, he’ll be angry.
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mūrkhāyopadeśo hi
prakopayati na śamyati
[?]
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Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa
Kṛṣṇa Hare Rāma Rāma…
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So much production, but if nature’s
like can stop this production.
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Then the question
of over-population.
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[If] the nature likes, it can produce
three times, four times this production.
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prakṛteḥ kriyamāṇāni
guṇaiḥ karmāṇi
[Bg. 3.27]
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After all, nature is producing.
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We do not know how
to deal with nature.
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Therefore there is scarcity,
and we say, “over-population.”
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There is no question
of over-population.
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There are so many hundred and thousands
of birds within this forest—other animals.
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They have no problems
of over-population.
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Eh?
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All these men, who are
living in these villages:
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So, what is their
means of livelihood?
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Agriculture or industry?
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Or service? [splice]
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This should be exemplary.
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Our community
shall live in this way
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and save time for spiritual
advancement of life.
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This example should be shown to the
whole world, that “Here is a community:
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They have no problem, and they are
simply interested in Kṛṣṇa consciousness.”
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This will be the idea.
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- Is it possible?
HANSADUTTA: Yes.
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- Yeah.
- Huh?
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“They do not do any industry.
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They do not kill cows.
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They do not go to cinema.
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They do not have illicit sex.
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They don’t drink.
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No problems.
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Simply they’re eating very nicely
and chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa.”
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Show this example.
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At least in this fool’s paradise.
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They are thinking it is paradise.
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And the paradise is lost every ten
years or fifteen years by the bombing.
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German bombs: the France, and France
bombs the… This is their paradise.
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So let them understand that
“You are all fools; It is peace.
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You are fool’s paradise.
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This is life, what we are
doing;” Teach them.
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So that the fools will
understand what is life.
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They are manufacturing
atom bomb.
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Russia is hiding himself.
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India is… Over the past few years,
spending crores of rupees to develop the…
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Hmm; and people are
starving for want of…
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There was a cartoon that some
public came to some minister:
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“Sir, we are starving;
give us our food.”
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So the reply was: “Of course,
that’s a problem—food problem.
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But I can assure you that from
next week you’ll have television.”
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These rascals are like that.
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“Next, from next week, you’ll
have television—atom bomb.
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Never mind; starve.”
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That is also becoming
fool’s paradise.
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jaḍa-vidyā jato māyāra vaibhava
[Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura]
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In this way, the more we increase sense
gratification by advancement of material…,
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the more we forget Kṛṣṇa.
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And more we forget
Kṛṣṇa: We are more fools.
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In England and America now,
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more and more there is a big movement
for birth control and contraceptives…
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Yes.
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…as their means to conquer over the
so-called over-population problem.
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No, it is not over-population.
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They don’t want to
take care of children.
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This is their problem.
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It is not the question
of over-population.
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They want to remain free
and enjoy life, that’s all.
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No responsibility.
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That is the hippies.
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That is the hippy movement.
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I have seen in all the big colleges and
universities in England that I have been to,
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that this—amongst the students, the
boys and girls—it is becoming so free.
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It is just like a hippy commune—
the universities and colleges.
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Yes.
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They are indebted
in so many ways.
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Therefore human being
should be responsible.
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But the modern civilization is teaching
to become irresponsible. [break]
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…on the sun.
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Suppose if your heat increases,
what happens to you?
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I get sick.
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That’s all.
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Samudvigna: Always full of anxiety.
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sadā samudvigna-dhiyām
[SB 7.5.5]
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Intelligence is always absorbed:
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“Enemy may not come;
let me discover this:
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discover this atom bomb; this
will save me; this will save me.”
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This is their…
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sadā samudvigna-dhiyām asad-grahāt
[SB 7.5.5]
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Why this anxiety?
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Because they have accepted
something false as truth.
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Asad-grahāt.
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They have accepted sense
gratification is the truth.
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indriyāṇi parāṇy ahuḥ
[Bg. 3.42]
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Indriyāṇi means senses.
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Parā: Supreme; this is supreme.
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Then, if somebody is little advanced:
Indriyebhyaḥ paraṁ manaḥ [Bg. 3.42].
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Then the mental speculators:
psychologists, philosophers, another,
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better class of rascals…
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This is the third-class rascal,
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and they are second-class rascal.
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indriyāṇi parāṇy āhur
indriyebhyaḥ paraṁ manaḥ
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manasas tu parā buddhiḥ
[Bg. 3.42]
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Then the intelligent class.
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They consider, “What
is this nonsense?
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They are all suffering here.”
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In this way, one who becomes actually
intelligent—wise—then he understands,
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“Kṛṣṇa is everything.”
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bahūnāṁ janmanām ante
jñānavān māṁ prapadyate
[Bg. 7.19]
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So that highest position we are
giving by Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
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We are not training
them to be first-class…
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