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MW MAY 1976-02-12 Laziness Is Less than Demonic
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ANNOUNCER: The following is
a morning walk conversation,
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with His Divine Grace
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
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recorded on the 12th of February,
1976, in Māyāpura, India.
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PRABHUPĀDA: …I am your friend, I am
God, so you sleep, I shall do everything.
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In Russia like that.
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When Arjuna refused to fight
He chastised him like anything.
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What is this; anārya-juṣṭam?
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He’s just like non-
Aryans, talking foolish.
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People who should clearly understand
that we don’t encourage laziness.
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We never encourage.
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According to your capacity, guṇa-
karma-vibhāgaśaḥ, you must work.
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Śarīra yātrāpi te na
prasiddhyed akarmaṇaḥ [?],
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Kṛṣṇa [indistinct],
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“By not working, even if you cannot
put on your body and soul together.”
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Kṛṣṇa says like that.
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DAYĀNANDA: Isn’t laziness one of the
demonic qualities, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
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It is less than demonic.
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Demonic qualities, they have some activity
and laziness is ignorance, darkness.
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Therefore too much
sleeping is very, very bad.
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That is another part of laziness.
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One has to conquer over
this sleeping and laziness.
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Eating, nidrā, ahāra,
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vihāra, sense gratification,
vihāra means sense gratification.
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One has to minimize these things
up to the point of nil, that is perfect.
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When there is no more
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sleeping, no more
eating, no more mating,
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and no more fearing, that
is perfection of spiritual life.
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And that is not possible,
but as much as possible.
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[break] …[indistinct]
cannot sleep more
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- that the culture is very great gain, profit.
HṚDAYĀNANDA: Consider a rich man.
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- A rich man can sleep, a poor man must work.
- Oh.
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They’re always making agitation to
reduce what they call the work week.
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Formerly they were working
so many hours per week,
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now they want to reduce it down to
forty, thirty, twenty hours per week.
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So why they’re inventing machine?
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Machine means no work.
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They think this is progress, everyone can
lie down and the machines will work.
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Yes, machine, inventing machine means
one machine can work for fifty men.
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The banks, they’re using
this, what is that, computer?
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Yes, everyone is using computers.
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To save money.
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Machine means unemployment.
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Tractor, they’re using,
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then unemployment
for bulls and plowmen
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and then the bulls
have to be killed.
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This is going on;
unemployment, then kill them.
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Vietnam: send all the men
to fight and kill them.
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As soon as there is overpopulation, they
declare war so that people may be killed.
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Sometimes the soldiers
became so disgusted
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that they would shoot
their own officers.
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But they would do it in such a way
so it appeared to be accidents.
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Sometimes they would
take [a] little bomb
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and throw it into the tent of the
officers and they would all be killed.
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What was the reason?
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Well, because the officers, they were
not qualified; they were simply foolish.
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They were directing them in such
a way that they were all in danger.
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Oh.
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And they could not understand
why they were there.
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It was a foreign…
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They were used to America and so they
had to go to the jungle but they were…
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- They could not see the point of fighting.
- Hmm.
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So many times they would
become so disgusted
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they would simply
kill their own officers.
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Shoot them or throw a bomb.
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Also in Vietnam, the majority of the
soldiers were fighting intoxicated:
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marijuana and different drugs.
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Also I think people have no
respect for authority any more.
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No.
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All over the world people are not
respecting any kind of authorities.
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- No.
- There are so many false…
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Especially the students.
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That means chaotic
condition. [break]
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[indistinct] is so nice
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that your divine grace was presenting
the perfect authority, Kṛṣṇa.
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Yes.
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And one who follows His
instruction, he [is] also perfect.
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That we are pushing; and be Kṛṣṇa
conscious, everything will be all right.
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Everyone is following; I asked
this question to Kotovsky.
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“Sir, you have got a leader, we have got
a leader, so where is the difference?”
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And then I said, “Only you have got a fool
leader, we have got intelligent leader.”
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Otherwise you cannot
avoid leadership, authority.
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That is not possible.
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They want to avoid but they…
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- Impersonalists are catering to that desire.
- Huh?
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They want to avoid authority and so the
impersonalists are encouraging that.
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- So they are rascals, the a…
- No, it is not possible to give up authority.
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It is not possible.
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Your interview:
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those articles that you
had spoken about,
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against Communism,
are very, very brilliant.
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Actually we were struck with wonder
to see the different arguments.
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Very, very important for
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South America because
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there the Communism is popular
among the young students.
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- They read?
- Hmm.
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- They read it?
- Yeah, we just published it in our magazine.
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Oh.
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So they like that argument?
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Yes, the argument was
so intelligent that…
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No one has ever thought of such
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intelligent arguments
against Communism.
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Also the article on Freud,
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- I think that book is very, very important.
- Yes.
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Very very important; it will
actually satisfy the students.
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No one else would dare
to call these people fools.
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