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MW TOR 1976-06-18 Dealing With the Envious
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ANNOUNCER: Next is a
morning walk conversation
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with His Divine Grace
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
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recorded on June 18th,
1976, in Detroit, Michigan.
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SATSVARŪPA: …professor who’s going
to see you tonight, Professor O’Connell,
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he wrote a book review of Dr.
Judah’s book about our movement.
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And he said it was a very sympathetic
book, Dr. Judah’s, he said,
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and a little bit too
sympathetic on one point.
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And he made his statement.
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He thinks that our movement,
the way we deny the flesh,
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he said, he called,
“denying the flesh,”
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it tends to make us a little cold
in our relations to each other,
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and people in the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement
are denying the natural affection
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that is somehow
connected with the flesh.
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PRABHUPĀDA: No, we want to,
what is called, reject that society.
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We cannot become
sympathetic with everyone.
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That is not our policy.
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asat-saṅga-tyāga vaiṣṇava ācāra
[Cc. Madhya 22.87]
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Caitanya Mahāprabhu,
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when He was asked what is the
general behavior of a Vaiṣṇava,
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He said that the first thing is that
you should give up bad company.
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So these are bad company.
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We cannot have any sympathy.
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We cannot make any
compromise with everyone.
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That is not possible.
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The modern scientists, they
have made quarantine?
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- Quarantine?
- Quarantine?
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What is that?
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HARI-ŚAURI: Separation.
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- Hah.
- HARI-ŚAURI: If someone has a disease,
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they separate.
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Those who are infected,
they should be separated.
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You cannot make any compromise.
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His point was that even amongst
ourselves, even amongst the devotees,
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he says, there is not enough expression
of love, because we don’t allow…
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- Well, then… Trying to be perfect.
- Flesh, skin disease.
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Perfect does not mean that they
should eat meat and drink wine.
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That does not mean.
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What is his objection?
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HṚDAYĀNANDA: I think
what it comes down to
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is that he objects that
we are against illicit sex.
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Oh.
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That means he is accustomed.
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JAGADĪŚA: These
professors sit around…
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[They] discuss topics of Caitanya
Mahāprabhu, and drink wine.
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Just see.
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And their discussion
is very blasphemous.
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Dr. Dimmock: He’s made much
investigation upon the Six Gosvāmīs,
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and he’s read all manuscripts,
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and he’s always going to India
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and studying Rūpa
Gosvāmī and Lord Caitanya,
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but everything is extremely
blasphemous that he writes.
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So in both ways, in their habits
and whatever they write.
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In the Library Party men, they
become friendly to these professors,
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but only to use them more or
less, that they’ll accept our books,
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- despite themselves.
- Yes, that we must do.
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Policy is when we go to a,
what is called, a bad character,
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we don’t go to associate with him,
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but to give him our association.
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Therefore we must be
strong and very pure,
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so that your association,
they will be benefited.
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For the preachers,
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īśvare tad-adhīneṣu bāliśeṣu dviṣatsu,
[SB 11.2.46] the four behavior.
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Īśvara, tad-adhīneṣu,
devotees, bāliśeṣu, innocent,
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and dviṣatsu, those
who are envious.
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So, a devotee, those who are
preachers, they, prema, loving God,
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making friendship with devotee, and
those who are innocent, to deliver.
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And those who are envious, reject.
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