0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,401 RC PAR 1976-08-02 Gurukula Teachers 1 00:00:01,402 --> 00:00:03,618 ANNOUNCER: Next is a conversation between 2 00:00:03,619 --> 00:00:10,254 His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda and the gurukula teachers, 3 00:00:10,255 --> 00:00:23,429 recorded August 2nd, 1976, at the Paris farm. 4 00:00:23,430 --> 00:00:27,876 PRABHUPĀDA: He begins with surrender. 5 00:00:27,877 --> 00:00:33,296 sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja [Bg. 18.66] 6 00:00:33,297 --> 00:00:42,118 So anyone who voluntarily offers obeisances, 7 00:00:42,119 --> 00:00:49,774 immediately he becomes fifty percent advanced. 8 00:00:49,775 --> 00:00:52,955 Because…. 9 00:00:52,956 --> 00:00:58,117 Who is talking? 10 00:00:58,118 --> 00:01:06,556 This material world means nobody wants to surrender. 11 00:01:06,557 --> 00:01:17,009 Everyone wants to become master: “I am the monarch of all I survey.” 12 00:01:17,010 --> 00:01:23,942 Everyone is planning how to become a master. 13 00:01:23,943 --> 00:01:28,962 Therefore the struggle for existence. 14 00:01:28,963 --> 00:01:35,267 Nobody wants to become a servant. 15 00:01:35,268 --> 00:01:39,571 You know very well in European history, 16 00:01:39,572 --> 00:01:46,438 Napoleon wanted to become the master of all Europe. 17 00:01:46,439 --> 00:01:50,614 Hitler wanted also. 18 00:01:50,615 --> 00:01:55,303 Similarly, there were so many leaders, 19 00:01:55,304 --> 00:01:58,840 sometimes Roman leaders, sometimes Greek leaders, 20 00:01:58,841 --> 00:02:06,224 sometimes French leaders, sometimes German leaders, English leader. 21 00:02:06,225 --> 00:02:15,055 The whole European history is full of fighting: War. 22 00:02:15,056 --> 00:02:23,803 The basic idea is that everyone wanted to become master. 23 00:02:23,804 --> 00:02:30,787 That is the material disease. 24 00:02:30,788 --> 00:02:37,357 We are now discussing Bali Mahārāja. 25 00:02:37,358 --> 00:02:43,144 And he also wanted to become master of the whole universe. 26 00:02:43,145 --> 00:02:46,904 So that is the material disease. 27 00:02:46,905 --> 00:02:58,114 Actually, master is one, Kṛṣṇa. 28 00:02:58,115 --> 00:03:02,392 There cannot be two masters. 29 00:03:02,393 --> 00:03:05,093 There is only one master. 30 00:03:05,094 --> 00:03:09,419 That is Kṛṣṇa, or God. 31 00:03:09,420 --> 00:03:17,418 But in the material world, because we have forgotten the real master, 32 00:03:17,419 --> 00:03:25,377 every one of us is trying to become master. 33 00:03:25,378 --> 00:03:28,514 This is material disease. 34 00:03:28,515 --> 00:03:37,890 Not only in one life, but life after life. 35 00:03:37,891 --> 00:03:47,722 The cats and dogs: They also want to be master. 36 00:03:47,723 --> 00:03:52,859 The dog, if he finds another dog coming, 37 00:03:52,860 --> 00:04:02,723 he immediately begins barking very loudly, “Why you are coming here?” 38 00:04:02,724 --> 00:04:13,910 So this mastership competition is going on life after life, sometimes as human being, 39 00:04:13,911 --> 00:04:24,472 sometimes as animal, sometimes as fish, aquatic, sometimes as demigod, bird. 40 00:04:24,473 --> 00:04:28,996 This is the whole material situation. 41 00:04:28,997 --> 00:04:36,103 And the difficulty is that we cannot become master, 42 00:04:36,104 --> 00:04:43,751 but on account of our false ambition that “I shall become master,” 43 00:04:43,752 --> 00:04:53,671 we are becoming servants of material nature. 44 00:04:53,672 --> 00:05:01,774 We are acting in a certain way to become master, creating a situation, 45 00:05:01,775 --> 00:05:10,830 mentality, and at the time of death, when this body finishes, 46 00:05:10,831 --> 00:05:16,123 the mind absorbed in that mastership idea 47 00:05:16,124 --> 00:05:25,907 takes me to another body according to my ambition, 48 00:05:25,908 --> 00:05:34,176 so I become again manifest in different body to exhibit my mastership. 49 00:05:34,177 --> 00:05:38,604 Another chapter begins. 50 00:05:38,605 --> 00:05:51,135 So they do not know how these subtle laws of material nature is working 51 00:05:51,136 --> 00:05:59,742 to give us opportunity to become master according to our idea—false idea. 52 00:05:59,743 --> 00:06:03,325 And we are actually suffering, sometimes as human being, 53 00:06:03,326 --> 00:06:12,154 sometimes as animal, sometimes as trees, sometimes as dog. 54 00:06:12,155 --> 00:06:15,409 So the mastership cannot be attained. 55 00:06:15,410 --> 00:06:19,716 That is not possible. 56 00:06:19,717 --> 00:06:25,315 In the false idea to become master we are becoming slaves 57 00:06:25,316 --> 00:06:27,713 of the laws of material nature. 58 00:06:27,714 --> 00:06:33,922 This is real position, and that is suffering. 59 00:06:33,923 --> 00:06:41,175 So, when one comes to this understanding, that we are not master, 60 00:06:41,176 --> 00:06:50,917 we are servant, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate [Bg. 7.19]. 61 00:06:50,918 --> 00:06:53,707 After many, many births, 62 00:06:53,708 --> 00:07:01,755 if by chance one gets the association of the servant of the Lord, 63 00:07:01,756 --> 00:07:08,630 then he understands that he is not master, he’s servant of Kṛṣṇa. 64 00:07:08,631 --> 00:07:10,679 And then he surrenders. 65 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:16,249 vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ [Bg. 7.19] 66 00:07:16,250 --> 00:07:27,006 Such great soul who has understood that “I am eternal servant of Kṛṣṇa,” 67 00:07:27,007 --> 00:07:30,248 he’s a very great soul. 68 00:07:30,249 --> 00:07:32,249 Sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ. 69 00:07:32,250 --> 00:07:35,670 Very, very rare to be found. 70 00:07:35,671 --> 00:07:40,336 But that is the fact. 71 00:07:40,337 --> 00:07:45,154 The sooner we learn that we cannot become master, 72 00:07:45,155 --> 00:07:48,359 we are eternal servant of Kṛṣṇa, 73 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:53,811 let us surrender to Kṛṣṇa and remain in our own position as servant, 74 00:07:53,812 --> 00:07:58,351 then it is perfection of life. 75 00:07:58,352 --> 00:08:04,023 Therefore one who surrenders, one who offers…. 76 00:08:04,024 --> 00:08:06,415 This is the beginning, 77 00:08:06,416 --> 00:08:10,789 man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru [Bg. 18.65] 78 00:08:10,790 --> 00:08:12,990 Namaskuru. 79 00:08:12,991 --> 00:08:14,948 Kṛṣṇa says namaskuru. 80 00:08:14,949 --> 00:08:20,555 Namaskuru means “Just offer your obeisances unto Me.” 81 00:08:20,556 --> 00:08:25,933 Ah; in the absence of…. 82 00:08:25,934 --> 00:08:32,345 Kṛṣṇa is everywhere, but Kṛṣṇa sends His representative. 83 00:08:32,346 --> 00:08:41,381 So if we begin, offer namaskuru, to the representative, it goes to Kṛṣṇa, 84 00:08:41,382 --> 00:08:47,820 and then gradually, by the grace of Kṛṣṇa, 85 00:08:47,821 --> 00:08:50,961 one becomes Kṛṣṇa conscious 86 00:08:50,962 --> 00:08:57,055 and becomes situated in his own original consciousness, 87 00:08:57,056 --> 00:09:03,425 Kṛṣṇa consciousness, and that is perfection of life. 88 00:09:03,426 --> 00:09:11,917 Thank you very much. 89 00:09:11,918 --> 00:09:11,919 Subtitles by Pratyatoṣa Dāsa, Causelessmercy.com