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RC VRN 1976-11-04 Nobody Is Satisfied Income
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ANNOUNCER: The
following is a conversation,
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with His Divine Grace
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
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recorded on the 4th of November,
1976, in Vṛndāvana, India.
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PRABHUPĀDA: So is there any regula…
regulation given in the pañjikā, when?
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PRADYUMNA: Only regulation
given for timing is that…
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is that for Deity
going to rest at noon.
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The Deity should take rest at
noon, two yāmas after sunrise,
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and take rest in evening,
one yāma after sunset.
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But it didn’t say anything
about the other āratis.
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- But at 6…
- The ārati, it is called sandhya ārati.
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- Yes, Sandhya ārati.
- Sandhya ārati means just in the evening.
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- Yes.
- So when evening time is there…
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After sunset it is not evening.
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What is the time of
sunset nowadays?
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Bring pañjikā.
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What is the time of sunset?
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HARI−ŚAURI: It’s about 5:30.
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5:30; then one hour after; then
6:30 is all right; 6:30 is all right.
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AKŚAYANANDA: Okay; so in that case,
when would you like to come and visit?
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- Ah, 6:30.
- Now you got six till seven.
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Huh?
- Now you’re coming six till seven.
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5:30 to 6:30?
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We shall come… 6:30-
7:00: Ārati will go on.
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So we can come
half an hour before.
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- 5:30.
- 5:30.
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5:30; instead of coming there
at six, I come there at 5:30.
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And one hour; then 6:30 begins.
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Make that like that.
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That will be nice, hm.
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I think… You can
understand Hindi? No.
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I am trying to; I can understand
little bit; I am practicing.
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You should learn Hindi, Bengali.
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You are learning?
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He talks… When he talks, he talks a
little fast, when he reads the anuvada.
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- Who?
- Ah, Prema-yogi.
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Ah, he is…
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- But I… I am studying his translating: Nice.
- Yes.
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He is learned.
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We wanted to ask
you about… Ah…
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He was training up Prema-
yogi to do the editing,
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but there’s no one to
do the transcribing.
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We probably doing… We’ll
have to send the tapes…
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Transcribing? No, why?
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Why can’t Pālikā do?
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- She can do it?
- I don’t know.
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- Yes, she can do.
- Pālikā can do it?
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- [indistinct] will be all right, then.
- You also learn.
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Typing.
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- Yes.
- Yes.
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In case there is
none, you should do.
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Pālikā’s done it before.
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- No, Pālikā can do; I know that.
- She is expert.
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She is expert in typing.
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Amongst the women,
she is expert typist.
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She is expert in so many things.
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Only defect is that she’s woman.
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But Kṛṣṇa says, [striyo vaiśyās
tathā śūdrās] [Bg 9.32].
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“Never mind woman.
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If she is devotee, she
also comes to Me.”
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Striyaḥ śūdrās tathā:
“no one barred.”
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Especially naming: [striyo vaiśyās tathā
śūdrās, te 'pi yānti parāṁ…] [Bg 9.32].
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Everyone is… Kṛṣṇa is so kind.
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There is no restriction.
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Everyone is open to
Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
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jīvera ‘svarūpa’ haya—kṛṣṇera ‘nitya-dāsa’
[Cc. Madhya 20.108]
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This is open to all living entities.
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There is no restriction.
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And so long this body is there, material,
there is distinction between this and that.
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Otherwise, when you come to the
platform of spiritual understanding,
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Paṇḍitāḥ sama-darśinaḥ [Bg. 5.18];
then there is no restriction.
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Higher, lower, this; so on; so on.
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gopī-bhartuḥ pada-kamalayor dāsa-dāsānudāsaḥ
[Cc. Madhya 13.80]
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Hmm.
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So any newspaper
propaganda against us?
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- Ha!
- No.
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Hm, one complaint is standing:
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That our life members
and others—subscriber…
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They always complain: They are not
getting paper; they are not getting book.
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- That is the general complaint.
- We send, regularly.
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We are sending.
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But at many times the mail is
stolen—magazines—Back to Godhead.
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- That is a fact.
- Yes, it’s very difficult.
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Be… There are so many
nice picture; I… I have seen.
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When I was printing my
books in a Delhi press…
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So one peon was coming there
to work part time as compositor.
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So he… his mailbag he will put somewhere
in the press and he will begin composing.
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And all other compositors:
They’ll check the mail bag,
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and if something is
attractive, they’ll take.
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I have seen it.
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Our magazine is so…
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- It is so beautiful.
- …[full] of pictures,
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so naturally, as soon as they…
The pictorial: They take it.
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Yeah, that’s the trouble.
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So we have a system
in some towns.
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We… We find one member
who is very much liking us,
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and we send all the
magazines to him,
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and he goes—sends his peons by hand,
to all the other members in that city.
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That is not possible.
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We are doing that in
some… some cities
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but we don’t have in all
cities: Such a system.
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- That system works.
- How it is possible?
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- We’re doing that…
- Some are living ten miles from him; it is not…
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- No, that is happening in India.
- Yeah.
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- Not in other countries; [indistinct]
- No.
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In your country the peons
are very responsible.
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Yes, the post office
is also very good.
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Here they never satisfied.
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This is the modern mentality.
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Nobody is satisfied
with his income.
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He wants more money.
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And for that purpose he
can do anything rascal.
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I have seen it; this peon puts his
bag without any responsibility.
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Letters are strewn and maybe
some letters stolen; who can say?
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And he came to earn some money.
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For some time he’ll compose
and get some labor.
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And in Calcutta I have
seen all the office peons:
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They are sleeping in Dalhousie Square—the
peon book as pillow—for hours together.
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And when they, after distributing…
The when they return to the office
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it is going to be closed.
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And if they are asked explanation, “Why
you are so late?” “Oh, he was not there.
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I had to wait three hours,”
and so on, so on, so on.
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Everyone is dishonest.
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- Nobody is a… a… working honestly.
- They said…
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Especially in India,
because poverty-stricken.
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If they can sleep two hours, he
thinks that he has made some profit.
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Formerly people
were God conscious.
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They did not like to cheat:
That “God will be displeased.”
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Now they're don… don’t believe
in God, so they can do anything.
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Now that we’ve
become a devotee…
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“Everyone is God.”
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if we sleep for two hours, we
think we have wasted two hours.
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Tha… That should be.
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Sleeping is waste of time.
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nidrāhāra-vihārakādi-vijitau
[Śrī Śrī Ṣaḍ Gosvāmy Aṣṭaka]
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We have to conquer over eating
and sleeping and mating…
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Just the opposite to the karmīs.
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- They want to increase their eating.
- Formerly, when I was in
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Rādhā-Dāmodara temple, there
was a khol manufacturer here.
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Is he here still?
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Khol manu…
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He supplied me khol:
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- Very nice; very big.
- Oh.
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This khol was taken
to Germany or…
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What was his name?
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- I forgot.
- There is one man here.
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In here?
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One man is here, but I don’t
know if it’s the same one.
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Can you call him?
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- Yeah.
- Yes?
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I think he’s just a
repairman though.
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- Oh, whatever he may be; yes.
- Okay.
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We must have very good
khol; you have no good khol?
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Yeah, I had one under repair; I
had two under repair with him.
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Oh!
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But he takes a long time.
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They are waiting… I am
waiting now for repair.
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So you can call him.
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- Okay; you’d like to meet him?
- Yes.
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[If he is] the same man, then I can ask
him to prepare some khol. [splice]
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The one thing is that
they neglect that rings.
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That ring and the strap, if
it is… That will never do.
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As soon as they khol, that’s…
some rope, bas. [splice]
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Everything depends on
organized management.
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