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SB 6-01-10 HON 1976-05-11 There Is No Culture & Education
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ANNOUNCER: The following is a class
on Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, 6th canto,
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1st chapter, text number 10,
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given by His Divine Grace
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
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recorded on the 11th of May,
1976, in Honolulu, Hawaii.
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PRABHUPĀDA: [devotees repeat]
Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya [?].
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Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, Sixth Canto, First Chapter,
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verse number ten
[devotees repeat] [splice]
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So Parīkṣit Mahārāja, he said that everyone
in this material world know what is,
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to some extent at least, or to his capacity,
knows “This is right” or “This is wrong.”
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May not be very advanced in
knowledge, but something they know,
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“This is right; this is wrong.”
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So criminality we have described.
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Everyone knows “This is not
good,” but he is punished.
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Again he does that.
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So Parīkṣit Mahārāja said, “What
is the use of this atonement?”
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He further explains in this verse
that kvacin nivartate abhadrāt.
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Abhadra means unclean, wrong things.
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Bhadra means right thing.
Bhadra and abhadra.
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In India bhadra means gentleman
and abhadra means uncivilized man.
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So sometimes he does like gentlemen
and sometimes like foolish rascal.
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Kvacin nivartate ’bhadrāt kvacic carati tat punaḥ [SB 6.1.10].
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After coming from the prison house, jail,
he decides, “No more I shall commit.
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I shall now become gentleman.”
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But as soon as his
friends, criminals,
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again mix with them, he again
commits the same sinful activity.
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So in this condition, atonement,
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if he cannot change his character, so
what is the use of this atonement?
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Prāyaścittam atho ’pārtham [SB 6.1.10].
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Apārtham means useless.
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If he cannot change his
character, change his mind,
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then the punishment or
prāyaścittam is apārtha, useless.
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How useless?
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Manye, “I think it is as
useless as kuñjara-śaucavat.”
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Kuñjara means elephant.
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Elephants taking bath.
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Perhaps you have not seen. In
India we had some opportunity.
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They wash the body very nicely,
repeatedly throwing water with the trunk,
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and as soon as come on
the shore of the tank,
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again take some dust and
throws over the body.
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We have to study from
nature that how is that.
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This rascal washed so nicely
his body, and immediately,
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coming out of the
tank, he throws dust.
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Śaucye manye kuñjara-śaucavat [?].
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Very appropriate.
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It is that hasti-snāna. In
Sanskrit it is called hasti-snāna.
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Snāna means bathing and
hasti means elephant.
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So if we are not
changing our character,
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then what is the use of advancement
of knowledge, education?
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That I told you yesterday, that in spite
of so-called advancement of education,
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culture, science, philosophy,
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the result is when you go to the airport
you are proved you are a dishonest man.
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Everyone is checked means everyone
is dishonest, it is to be supposed.
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Maybe some honest men, but
the majority are dishonest.
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Even there is somebody honest
he also… Gardulika pravāha[?]
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Majority… Nowadays it is
democratic days, majority.
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So as this Kṛṣṇa
consciousness movement
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is also taken as one of the
sentimental movements…
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It is the most scientific movement,
but because there are so many gurus,
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rascals, they imagine something and
cheat people. People want to be cheated.
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They take advantage.
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So we are also one of them,
because majority is this.
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“It is folly to be wise
where ignorance is bliss.”
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When everyone is rascal, to
become intelligent is rascaldom.
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Otherwise you say, “I am also
a rascal.” Then it is all right.
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If you say, “No, you are
rascal,” then there is fight.
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So this is going on.
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Actually it will be
explained in the next verse.
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Parīkṣit Mahārāja puts a
very intelligent question,
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that “What is the use of this kind of prāyaścitta, atonement?
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It has no use.”
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So as the student is intelligent,
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the spiritual master is also gradually
giving him more intelligence.
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First of all, for ordinary man the
atonement, punishment, he proposed.
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But when the student, intelligent student,
Mahārāja Parīkṣit said, “It is useless,”
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then next proposal is,
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karmaṇā karma-nirhāro na hy ātyantika iśyate
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avidvad-adhikāritvāt prāyaścittaṁ vimarśanam Avidyā [?].
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If somebody is kept into darkness,
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then there is no use of this punishment or prāyaścitta.
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So he proposes that the man in
darkness should be educated.
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Vimarśanam.
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Vimarśanam means cultivation of knowledge, culture.
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So where is that culture?
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There is no culture.
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We propose that the beginning
of culture is no illicit sex.
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This is the beginning.
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Who is accepting that?
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“Illicit sex? Why illicit
sex? Sex is sex.”
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No, that is the
beginning of culture
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because in the dog society
there is no marriage,
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and why in the human
society there is marriage?
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They could avoid it.
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Nowadays they are being avoided.
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In the Kali-yuga there will
be no more marriage.
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That is stated in the Bhāgavata.
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It is stated.
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Five thousand years ago it was
foretold that during Kali-yuga,
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svīkāram eva hi udvāhe [?].
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Just see. This is called śāstra.
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Five thousand years ago it was foretold
that marriage means agreement.
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It will be in Kali-yuga.
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Svīkāram eva hi udvāhe [?].
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This is called śāstra.
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Bhūr bhaviṣyat vartamāna, everything.
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That is śāstra and that is perfect knowledge.
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And dam-patye ratir eva hi [?].
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Rati means sex satisfaction.
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So husband and wife
means sex satisfaction.
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It will be the standard of man
and woman’s relationship.
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Dam-patye ratim eva hi [?].
Vipratve sūtram eva hi [?].
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To become a brāhmaṇa means a thread,
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a two-cent worth,
one thread. That’s all.
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This is going on.
These are all foretold.
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So that is being explained.
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So, karmaṇā karma-nirhāro na hy ātyantika iśyate
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avidvad-adhikāritvāt prāyaścittaṁ vimarśanam [?].
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So the guru, Śukadeva Gosvāmī,
has examined Parīkṣit Mahārāja,
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and it appears that the king has
passed one phase of examination
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by rejecting the
process of atonement.
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This is intelligence.
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lmmediately said,
“Guru, what is this?”
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He has rejected.
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Rejecting the process of atonement
because it involves fruitive activities,
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karma.
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Karma.
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I have committed some sinful activity,
then other, another karma to punish me.
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So here it is said by… One karma
cannot be nullified by another karma.
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Karma means activity.
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They are going on, passing resolution
after resolution and laws after laws,
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but things are in the same
position. They are not changing.
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Therefore it cannot be
checked in that way.
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Karmaṇā karma-nirhāra.
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Now Śukadeva Gosvāmī is suggesting
the platform of speculative knowledge.
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When it has failed that a thief repeatedly
committing criminal activities,
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repeatedly he is being punished but he is
not corrected, then what is the remedy?
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That is vimarśanam, speculative knowledge.
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Progressing from karma-
kāṇḍa to jñāna-kāṇḍa,
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he is proposing prāyaścittaṁ vimarśanam:
Real atonement is full knowledge.
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One should be given knowledge.
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Unless one comes
to the knowledge…
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So modern education
there is no real knowledge.
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Real knowledge begins in the Bhagavad-gītā.
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Those who have read Bhagavad-gītā, the first understanding,
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Arjuna was given lesson.
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When he was perplexed and
he became a disciple of Kṛṣṇa,
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śiṣyas te ’haṁ śādhi māṁ prapannam [?]:
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“Kṛṣṇa, let us stop
this friendly talking.
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Now I agree to
become Your disciple.
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Now You teach me.”
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So the first teaching
was chastisment.
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Aśocyān anvaśocas tvaṁ prajñā-vādāṁś ca bhāṣase
[Bg. 2.11] [?]:
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“You have no knowledge.”
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Gātāsun agatāsūṁś ca nānuśocanti paṇḍitāḥ [?]:
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“You are talking like a paṇḍita
but you are not paṇḍita.”
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He indirectly said, “You are a fool,”
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because nānuśocanti, “This kind of thinking
is not maintained by learned scholars.”
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That means “You are
not a learned man.”
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That is going on at
the present moment.
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Everyone is thinking that he is
very highly elevated, learned,
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but he is fool number one.
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That is going on because there
is no standard knowledge.
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Sanātana Gosvāmī also, when he
approached Caitanya Mahāprabhu,
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he also said the same thing.
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He was in the sense.
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He was prime minister.
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He was very learned scholar
in Sanskrit and Urdu—
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in those days Urdu because it
was Muhammadan government.
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But he thought it wise that
“They call me learned scholar,
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but what kind of scholar I am?”
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He put this question
before Caitanya.
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Grāmya vyavahāre kahaye paṇḍita satya kari māni [?],
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āpanāra hitāhita kichui nāhi jāni [?]:
“My dear Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu,
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these common men, they say that I
am M.A, Ph.D, D.A.C. and so on, so on.
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I am very learned scholar.
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But I am so big scholar that I do not know
what I am and what is my aim of life.
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Just see.”
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Ask any so-called scholar
that “What is the aim of life?”
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He cannot say.
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The aim of life is the same like the dog:
eat, drink, be merry, and enjoy, and die.
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That’s all.
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So where is education?
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There is no education.
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Real education is different, that one must
know his own position and act accordingly.
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That you can get from
Vedic knowledge.
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Tad vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum evābhigacchet
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samit-pāniḥ śrotriyaṁ brahma-
niṣṭham [MU 1.2.12]. Brahma-niṣṭham.
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If one has no sense to understand Kṛṣṇa
consciousness, or God consciousness,
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he is no better than
the dog and cat.
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No credit.
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According to Vedic civilization anyone
who is thinking, “I am this body,”
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and doing accordingly—for the bodily
pleasure he is working so hard—
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so that is not knowledge.
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Here it is suggested that prāyaścittam vimarsanam.
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If you want to be saved from the
tribulation offered by the material nature,
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then you have to very thoughtful,
thinking that what is the actual position.
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That is the beginning of Vedānta-sūtra, that
“You inquire about Brahman,
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the Absolute Truth.”
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Athāto brahma jijñāsā. This human form of life,
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don’t spoil it like cats and dogs,
eating, sleeping, mating and dancing.
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No.
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So, so same dancing, same eating can be
utilized when it is in Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
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Then he will be… Simply
by dancing and chanting
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and taking prasādam you’ll be learned scholar.
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Thank you very much [end]
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