Morning Walk Conversation
with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
September 4, 1975, Vrndavana

Prabhupada: …get money, they will spend it for spoiling himself.

Nayanabhirama: So I was just wondering if it wouldn’t be better if we gave them food and clothing instead of paying them.

Prabhupada: But they will not work. [break] …gradually. Hare Krsna. Jaya. [break] …Who does not deviate from the instruction of the Lord, he is Aryan. All others, non-Aryan. The Aryans will take the words of God as it is, without any deviation. That is Aryan. An Aryan means advanced, advanced in knowledge, and one who is advanced in knowledge, he is advanced civilized. Rascal fools, how they can be civilized? Everyone is claiming “Aryan,” but he does not know what is the business of Aryans. Simply by some bodily feature… The same ignorance—“I am this body.” So by the bodily features they settle up: “This is from Aryan family; this is from non-Aryan family.” That is good. That is external. Real Aryan means one who is advanced in knowledge and goes by the order of Krsna, or God. (aside:) Jaya.

Brahmananda: Adolf Hitler adopted the idea of Aryan, but his criteria for Aryan was one who had blond hair and blue eyes.

Prabhupada: That is bodily. (chuckles) That is another foolishness. Just like we have dress. So this dress of sannyasi is not all. I must be real sannyasi in knowledge, in education, in behavior, not that… Hitler studies by the dress. That is the foolishness. It is not by the dress, but by the quality. Dress is also required. As I am sannyasi, I cannot dress otherwise. That is also essential. But if one judges, “Here is a sannyasi,” then he’ll misled. That is being done. People are being exploited in the dress of a sannyasi, although actually he is not sannyasa. That is also stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. “A sannyasi or a brahmana will be accepted by the outward feature.” If somebody has got a thread only, two paisa worth, he becomes a brahmana. And when one takes a danda, he becomes a sannyasi. This will be the identification in the Kali-yuga.

Brahmananda: So the Ramakrishna philosophy…

Prabhupada: Ramakrishna philosophy is nonsense.

Brahmananda: I know. (laughter) They say it doesn’t matter what kind of dress you wear.

Prabhupada: But “They say…” They are rascals. They can say anything. Chagale ki na khaya pagale ki na bale: “A madman, what does he not say, and a goat, what does he not eat?” (laughter)

Brahmananda: That’s their philosophy.

Prabhupada: Yes. We have to take philosophy from the acaryas. Acaryopasanam. They are not acaryas, neither they follow the acaryas. They do not follow any acaryas, either Sankaracarya or Madhvacarya or Ramanujacarya. They have their own philosophy. Acarya, the Ramakrishna, he used to worship Goddess Kali, but even they do not do that. Eh?

Brahmananda: No. They don’t even have deity worship even to Goddess Kali. They are so advanced…

Prabhupada: Yes. So where they stand? They have no platform.

Gunarnava: What do they do, Srila Prabhupada?

Prabhupada: I do not know.

Brahmananda: They have one candle.

Gunarnava: Oh, yes. I went to that, one candle, once. They were just playing…

Prabhupada: Then why they have established Ramakrishna’s murti? If they worship candle, then why they install Ramakrishna? That is the flaw. They have no standard of knowledge.

Gunarnava: Ananda Prabhu was mentioning that he was speaking to one of the sannyasis of the Ramakrishna mission, and they were very concerned because a lot of their disciples were leaving the mission and joining our society. They were very concerned. Their society is not at all expanding.

Prabhupada: Yes. That was begun long ago. For their hospital, formerly… (bell ringing)

Visala (in distance): All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Prabhupada: Hare Krsna. Retired medical practitioners, they used to join. (aside:) Hare Krsna. But nobody is joining now. What is this?

Visala: Tad viddhi pranipatena… [Bg. 4.34]. (etc.) (end)