Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.32
by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
Honolulu, May 31, 1976

Pradyumna: “When the order carriers of Yamaraja, the son of the sun-god, were thus forbidden, they replied, ‘Who are you, sirs, to have the audacity to challenge the jurisdiction of Yamaraja?’ ”


ucur nisedhitas tams te vaivasvata-purahsarah ke yuyam pratiseddharo dharma-rajasya sasanam

So there is sasana. Sasana means government. Sas-dhatu I have several times explained. Sas-dhatu means ruling. Sas-dhatu. From sas-dhatu the word has come, sasana. There are many other words. From sas-dhatu is sastra. And from sas-dhatu, sastra. From sas-dhatu, sasanam. The Sanskrit words are coined from the dhatu verb. So sas-dhatu means ruling. So there is ruling. You cannot think that you are independent. There is government. If you disobey the ruling, the government has got police department, and if you are still disobedient there will be military department. You cannot disobey the rulings of the government. Similarly, this government, God’s government, there are so many things—government officers, department rulings. Don’t think that there was a chunk and immediately there was… Nonsense. It is not chunk. (laughs) It is regular government. Just like we have here a small place. In Hawaii you have got so many government officers, rulers. And do you think such a vast (indistinct) is manifested and there is no ruling? Just see how poor thought. There is ruling. Don’t think all of a sudden that… Any sane man can understand that things are being carried systematically—the seasonal changes, the seasonal fruits and flowers, the sunrise, the moonrise, the birds, death, old age, disease, everything systematically. And is that happening by chance? Why by chance one does not live forever? There is no such chance, sir. There is ruling. You cannot say, “Now here is a chance the man has not died.” Where is that chance? Why do you speak of nonsense chance? It is not chance. It is ruling. You must die. However, utopianly says, “Now we shall live.” Oh, that is not. There is ruler.

So the Yamaraja is in charge of ruling of the sinful persons. Dharmasya sasanam. Dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam [SB 6.3.19]. Dharma means the laws of God. It is not a sentiment thing, “I believe.” You believe or not believe, what does it matter? You believe or not believe in the government laws—it must (indistinct). Similarly, the so-called philosophers, they simply concoct idea, “I believe. I believe.” Whatever you believe, that is your business, but the ruling of the Supreme Lord must go on. You cannot check it. You cannot avoid it. You can go on with your believe or not believe. That is not the business. So Yamaraja is in charge of punishing according to the gravity of sinful activities. He’s meant for punishing. That is just like superintendent of police or something like that, big officer, inspector general of the police department or the minister in charge of law and order. Everything is there in imitation, yato va imani bhutani jayante, janmady asya yatah [Bhag. 1.1.1]. Wherefrom you get this idea? There must be minister in charge of law and order. Where you get this idea? The idea is there from the original government. And there is the director or the minister in charge of law and order. The Yamaraja is minister in charge. They say it is mythology, it is man’s creation. How it is man’s creation? Things are going on. In the sastra it is said,

yac-caksur esa savita sakala-grahanam raja samasta-sura-murtir asesa-tejah yasyajnaya bhramati sambhrta-kala-cakro govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami

Savita, the sun, you, those who are initiated, so om bhur bhuvah svah tat savitur varenyam bhargo devasya dhimahi. That savita, the sun, they (indistinct) from the sun. What is that? Yac-caksur esa, this is God’s eyes. As soon as there is sunlight, you see everything. You cannot avoid His eyes. You think that “Nobody’s here. Let me steal this.” No. Immediately recorded. At night the moon is there. There are so many witnesses. And the Supreme Personality of Godhead is also witnessing within. So we cannot escape His witnessing. He’s witnessing from inside, from outside. So how He’s escape your sinful activities? No. That is not possible.

So immediately things are recorded and, at the time of death, just as in the previous verse, we studied, vikarsato ’ntar hrdayad. Antar hrdayad, in the core of the heart the individual soul and the Supersoul is there, and Yamaraja will take, his order carriers will take the, not the heart, but the soul. The heart of the body, that is made of this material element, that will lie down here. But the soul may be taken by arrangement. This is very, very subtle arrangement, and these rascals, they do not know how things are going on. They are imagining, “I think it is like this and that.” There is no value of this “I believe,” “I think,” “I conjecture.” You can do that, but things are going on. The government is very, very strong. Little deviation from the law, you’ll be punished. Little deviation. Nature’s law, they are so systematically set up that automatically… Just like the same example I’ve given: you’ll infect some disease, automatically you’ll have to suffer from the disease. Not that somebody’s come to ask you that “You have infected this disease. Now you have to suffer from this.” No. The machine is so perfect that as you have infected this disease… This is practically we know. So all of a sudden one gets cholera. So the doctor says that you are very bilious, or cholera (indistinct). So nature’s law is so perfect. Daivi hy esa gunamayi mama maya duratyaya [Bg. 7.14]. You cannot escape. Suppose you can eat two ounce, and if you eat four ounce, then you have to starve three days. This is the law. “There’s some very palatable dishes. Now eat, let me eat it to my satisfaction,” and you’ll overeat. No. The nature’s law is that you have to starve for three days. Next eating will be after three days.

So this way nature’s law is acting. And what is this nature’s law? Nature’s law means a system, a machine. Just like in this government there is system. You cannot violate. “Keep to the right!” “Stop here, red light!” You must have to stop. “I’m governor.” “Never mind, you stop.” This is law. You cannot say that “I am governor,” “I am Mr. Ford” or “Mr. Rockefeller,” “Why shall I stop my car?” No, it is government law. You must stop. So this is practical going on. How you can violate the nature’s law? It is not possible. Nature’s law is so strict, a little deviation will put you into suffering. This is going on. That is Yamaraja. And if you violate more and more and more, then you suffer more and more and more. This is the law. You cannot escape. So that is fixed up. But as there is some exceptional cases… Just like one has committed murder, so by law he must be hanged. By law. That is the general law everywhere, all over the world: life for life. So similarly, in the God’s law there is no such thing that if you kill a human being you’ll be killed, and if you kill an animal you won’t be killed. That is imperfect law, man-made law. Therefore Jesus Christ said, “Thou shall not kill.” No question of… They have modified, “This killing means murdering.” Christ does not say. What is your proof that if you committed mistake, a mistake, instead of writing “Thou shall not commit murder,” here is written, “Thou shall not kill,” general. Otherwise Christ has no intelligence. He cannot use the proper word. But you are misusing the order of Lord Christ.

So you are suffering. You are maintaining so many slaughterhouses, and when it will be mature, there will be war, the wholesale murder. Finished. One atom bomb—finished. You’ll have to suffer. Don’t think that “Innocent animals, they cannot protest. Let us kill and eat.” No. You’ll be also punished. Wait for accumulation of your sinful activities, and there will be war, and the America will drop the atom bomb, and Russia will be finished. Both will be finished. Go on now enjoying. It takes time. Just like even if you infect some disease, it takes time. Not that immediately you infect, and immediately the disease is there. No. It takes a week’s time or so. What is called? A quarantine, quarantine…

Devotee: Period of incubation.

Prabhupada: Ha? Incubation. So from Africa, if anyone goes anywhere, they require yellow fever injection. So if you haven’t got yellow fever injection, then even in the airport, there is arrangement, you have to wait in the quarantine area for six days. You’ll not be allowed. So this is… As you have got the laws and the punishment in this government, so why do you think there is no punishment and there is no God? This is utopian. Don’t think like that. Utopian. There is God, there is his government, there are his agents, there are witnesses, and… Otherwise why there are different varieties of life? Different varieties of life. Why? Eight million, four hundred thousand species of life. Everyone is a living being. The trees are living being, the fishes are living being, the ants are living being, the mosquitos are living being, and the human being also living being, the demigods also living being, the cats, dogs— everyone is living being. It is simply in different dresses. They’re living beings. But why they are situated in different position? According to karma, punished.

So we should be very careful. This is… This human form of life is a chance to make your choice, whether you are to go on being punished like this in different forms of life or whether you shall go back to home, back to Godhead. Here is the chance. Manusyanam sahasresu kascid yatati siddhaye [Bg. 7.3]. Out of many millions and millions of persons, one is intelligent enough, he can inquire that “Why I am suffering?” Everyone is suffering. That’s a fact. Only the rascals, they think, “We’re enjoying.” Everyone is suffering. This is a place for suffering. Duhkhalayam asasvatam [Bg. 8.15], Krsna says, who has created this place. It is a place of suffering. Every moment you are suffering due to this body, due to the mind, due to the suffering imposed by other living entities. The mosquito will bite, the flies will disturb you, the bugs are there, and then the dogs will bark unnecessarily. You are passing, and his business is barking. Ha? “Bow! Bow! Bow!” (laughter) So this is also suffering. You don’t like the next door the dog is barking. So in this way, if you are sober man, you don’t want all this suffering, but it is imposed upon you. How do you think that you are living very happy? This is foolishness. It is not… This place, either a-brahma-bhuvanal lokan punar avartino… Wherever you go, you read from the sastra, the demigods, they’re supposed to be very happy in the upper planetary systems— they are also not in happiness. There is fight between the demons and the demigods and so on, so on. The same politics, same (indistinct), the same…, so many things. Here in the small scale, just like two birds, they fight also. You’ve seen them. So their fighting you neglect. But your fighting—there is atom bomb. And similarly there is fighting in upper planets also.

So these things are going on, struggle for existence, survival of the fittest. This is nice theory. So here, anywhere you go… Just like your America is the richest country. Do you think there is happiness, there is no fighting, there is no disease, there is no death? No. Everything’s there as it is in other countries, poverty-stricken countries. So you cannot avoid. The birth… Krsna says, “Birth, death, old age and disease, these are your problems.” Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi duhkha-dosanudarsanam. Does it mean that these sufferings of birth, death and old age and disease, there is none in America or in other, moon planet? No. There is also same. Neither in greater portion, proportion. So there is stringent laws of the material nature everywhere, and there is God behind him, behind the nature. Mayadhyaksena prakrtih suyate sa-caracaram [Bg. 9.10]. Everything is going on under the direction of the supreme controller, and these are officers, just like Yamaraja, strictly following the regulative principles, the order of sun-god.

So this Ajamila… We have already described his life—cheating, roguism and prostitute-hunter and so many things, that is his life. So he’s subjected to the punishment, to be punished by the Yamaraja. So his order carriers have come to take him away. But, in the meantime, the Visnudutas came and asked them, “No. Don’t touch him. Don’t touch him.” So they were surprised: “What is this?” Therefore they are asking, ke yuyam pratiseddharo dharma-rajasya sasanam: “Who are you, interfering with government’s law? Who are you?” They are surprising. “Nobody has checked us.” Just like police… They come… Police comes to somebody’s house, everyone knows there is some business, serious business. Who will ask the police, “Why you are entering here?” No. Nobody has right. (indistinct) But why this punishment? Just to save him from so many other punishments. That is the law in Manu-samhita, that a murderer is killed, then his all sinful activities, reaction of life, finishes by that killing, by that hanging. Otherwise next life he has to suffer so many things. So when the king orders a murderer to be killed, it is his mercy. It is his mercy. Because he saves him from so many other entanglement. Better kill him so that his sinful reaction is finished. Similarly, Yamaraja, the sinful man taken to the Yamaraja, he is put into suffering, the same principle as a prisoner. He has to suffer for a time, six months or one year or sometimes more than that, just to atone for his sinful activities. So nobody can check. You can imagine that “There is no God, there is no Yamaraja, there is no punishment. Let me do.” That is your fancy. But it is not the fact. Fact is, if we commit some sin we must suffer from it, and there is nobody in the world who can check it.

Thank you very much. (end)