Evening Darsana
(on night of arrival)
by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
August 16, 1976, Hyderabad

Prabhupada: …not Paris. Paris we have got rented. What is the?

Devotee: It’s a hundred miles away from Paris(?).

Prabhupada: It is a big name. What…?

Hari-sauri: Lucay de La Male.

Prabhupada: The interior, near Orleans. So we have got very nice, beautiful palace. We have installed Gaura-Nitai and Krsna-Balarama.

Indian man: (Hindi) Vrndavana Krsna-Balarama.

Prabhupada: Ha. Four hundred acres land, we are producing our vegetables, vegetables, fruits, and food grains, milk, and two hundred devotees, they are living very happily. (converses in Hindi) It is, for health it is very nice. (Hindi)

Mahamsa: We were planning on your staying over there, and this last night this thing happened. So this morning we tried our best to complete your room, but then finally it was not coming off, so I…

Indian man (1): It came as a surprise that one o’clock he says Prabhupada will be staying here. We said nothing more than that, it will be my privilege, but I was just embarrassing, whether it would be inconvenient.

Prabhupada: Not inconvenient. But now we have comfort. For staying, it is the best place. There is no question about it. But because for the function we have come, so little too far away.

Devotee: To be near the program and see what is going on.

Prabhupada: Yes. Therefore even it is little inconvenient. (Hindi conversation) What is the position now about this political situation?

Indian man (1): Political situation remains the same. No elections, nothing for the time being.

Prabhupada: Mahamsa was saying that the businessman is in trouble.

Indian man (1): Yes, business is not prospering since last two, three years. Business conditions are not picking up.

Prabhupada: What is the reason?

Indian man (1): A general recession throughout the world.

Prabhupada: Depression. Not for any political reason.

Indian man (1): No, on account of emergency also, Swamiji, mostly these people are afraid of (indistinct). Government has right powers, whereby without question, nobody has the power to question in the court.

Prabhupada: Why not?

Indian man (1): If the arrest means even the constable can come and arrest. So all these foodgrain, many other things, after all there may be countervention in some way or the other. Rules which are made, terms and conditions laid out…

Prabhupada: How long this will continue?

Indian man (2): They say up to February, because this February she must have elections. Otherwise, there should be an amendment in the Constitution to allow her to continue.

Prabhupada: That is being made.

Indian man (2): This present government will serve no indication to that, that she will be allowed. Because as far as the Constitution, only one year extension can be given to Parliament, that nobody has followed through.

Prabhupada: One year?

Indian man (2): One year extension to the existing Parliament is given as per Constitution. After one year it must dissolve if it is necessary.

Prabhupada: That is the Constitution. But that is going to be changed?

Indian man (2): No that clause is not proposed to be changed. The changes which she is bringing in decision, that clause at least is not proposed to be changed. The last proposition she made…

Indian man (1): We were surprised as usual.

Indian man (3): There were some questions in Parliament about her.

Indian man (1): Yes, it came in the Hindu…

Prabhupada: Let them inquire. Our… Everything is open secret. We are selling books throughout the whole world to the extent of six lakhs rupees per day. So money is coming from Krsna.

Indian man (1): Here only Swamiji, Prabhupada, just now this…

Prabhupada: If you don’t like this, you can close India, we can go all over the world.

Indian man (2): Yes, there is a very big scope there.

Indian man (3): No, but here even it would declare it. Minister of State. Only Communist have put those questions.

Prabhupada: Communists are seeing this movement as a great danger.

Indian man (3): Yes, great danger for their…

Prabhupada: And we are spreading God consciousness. [break] By the grace of Krsna, we have no debts. We are (indistinct) simply find out… (?) Now in Bombay I am getting from my Book Fund seven lakhs of rupees per month regularly.

Indian man (3): Yes, ten lakhs per month is coming. Otherwise that work will not progress.

Prabhupada: We have given them three lakhs of rupees. What is that?

Mahamsa: This is the newspaper article which came in Hindu, the Hindu paper, about the government asking something about us.

Indian man (1): Communist party.

Mahamsa: “New Delhi, August l3th. Mr. Om Mehta, Minister of State for Home, informed the Rajya-sabha yesterday that government will order an inquiry into the activities of Krsna Caitanya Society in Nadia District of West Bengal to find out whether there was something fishy about it.”

Hari-sauri: This is the same report Gopala Krsna read you.

Mahamsa: You have read this, Prabhupada?

Indian man (3): It must have come in earlier.

Prabhupada: But the name is “Krsna Caitanya.” (laughs)

Mahamsa: Krsna Caitanya Society.

Prabhupada: Krsna Consciousness.

Hari-sauri: Srila Prabhupada, it’s ten-thirty. Would you like anything to eat or drink before we take rest?

Devotee: Srila Prabhupada, there’s puffies and peanuts and hot milk. Puffies.

Prabhupada: Puffies?

Hari-sauri: Puffed rice.

Prabhupada: Puffed rice.

Devotee: And some fried, and there’s hot milk.

Prabhupada: You can give me little puffed rice. (long pause) During wartime some, during noncooperation movement, so one firm, they were supplying printing machine, and, very famous firm, forgot the name. So they had 113 branches all over the world. So somebody questioned that “If you British boycott, if by boycott movement, if your firm is closed…” So the manager replied, “So what is wrong there? If one branch is closed, we’ll still have 112 branches all over the world.” So if the Communist party in India they want like that, so we have our own branches all over. (slapping sound—for mosquito?) Don’t kill.

Indian man (3): This book sales all over the world, six lakhs of rupees?

Prabhupada: Sixty thousand…

Indian man (3): Dollars. About five lakhs.

Prabhupada: Books. We are printing books five lakhs, three lakhs, one lakh, fifty thousand. Lowest twenty thousand.

Indian man (3): Volumes.

Prabhupada: And repetition.

Hari-sauri: They expect to sell twenty thousand copies in one week now. When a new book is published, that first batch of twenty thousand will sell in one week.

Prabhupada: So here is? [break]

Mahamsa: It was a touch-and-go thing. It was, when we finished, just enough for the opening, and afterwards the work could go on for another one month, finishing work. It was coming out very, very beautiful. Everyone who comes in, they like the whole, the hall is very big and massive, it’s very ornamental, and it will be very, very popular. Oh, yes, already people all over Andhra Pradesh know about it. We have done some good publicity. The press has given us some good covering. Tomorrow is a press conference. Their press conference starts at five. We are going to have a film show for them and prasada and all that before Your Grace goes there. And then afterwards there is a program at Muthilal Rao’s house. We had a program there before in his garden, if you remember.

Prabhupada: He is some ambassador?

Mahamsa: Yes, for Somalia. Now he has come back. He just, he’s very, very favorable for you. Because, we were talking and he was blasting all the Sankaracaryas, he was blasting all the different gurus and everyone, and he says the only guru is Srila Prabhupada. He says he met our devotees in Africa, he’s been to London and other temples in Europe.

Prabhupada: Oh, he has seen our temples.

Mahamsa: He has seen our temples in Europe and Africa and he was very, very impressed. So when I told him that Prabhupada is coming for the inauguration, he said, “You must give me the privilege again to have a program.” So tomorrow evening there will be a program there, and on the l8th morning at ten o’clock, between ten and ten- thirty is the prana-pratistha. The chief minister is coming there as the chief guest, and it will stay till about twelve o’clock. I wanted to have a feast for all the people as we did in Vrndavana, but it’s not possible here because there’s no space. The area around the temple is very little. So we have made these kinds of packages with different items, just like a little prasada feast, small. We’ll be giving everyone who comes, about ten thousand packages we are preparing. We’ll be distributing prasada like that. And then in the evening there’s a program again, Janmastami program, this is for public. The morning program we have restricted only to invitees, because it will be so crowded otherwise. This is one problem which I am trying to figure out, how to face of managing the crowd. The space around the temple is very small, so we cannot have very big, huge assembly. We have to figure out something about that. I’m still trying to think what to do.

Prabhupada: There is no question of management. Anyone comes, if you have made packages for distribution, give a package.

Indian man (4): There will be a lot of confusion, Prabhupada, there. And what we should do in that passage, we should make them sit, as we were discussing, about six hundred or so. We should make the passage and put daddis(?) these on that and make all the visitors and guests sit on that, and immediately after pratistha is over, installation of the Deities and all, one by one they should be allowed to go have darsana and come back. When they return, give them prasada. Not in package, bhoogi (?) sweet, it is…

Prabhupada: Whatever you want to arrange. When they’re going back. That’s all.

Indian man (4): That way there won’t be any rush. Otherwise, they will be stampeding the temple. Then nobody would have to rush in the temple. This is how they did at this Venkatesvara temple Birlas have constructed. They, though I was not there, someone was saying that all the guests were made to sit. Whoever was coming, they were made to sit, and then after all the distribution, everything was over, they were just made to one by one go around the Deity.

Prabhupada: You make that arrangement.

Indian man (4): Yes. If there are no rains that arrangement will go through very nicely. Only if there is no rain.

Prabhupada: Huh?

Mahamsa: If it rains, then there will be a problem. Everyone will try and rush into the temple.

Indian man (4): In Janmastami day usually many times it rains also.

Prabhupada: So where is the puffed rice? Somebody is bringing it?

Harikesa: Palika is…

Prabhupada: Why Palika, huh?

Harikesa: Palika is in the kitchen taking care of it.

Prabhupada: No, bring it to… Why you making there, puffed rice? There is… It is too late now. (long pause) So what she is doing?

Harikesa: I will check.

Mahamsa: She is cooking prasada.

Prabhupada: Cooking? What she is cooking?

Mahamsa: Only puffed rice.

Prabhupada: No, no, what she is cooking?

Mahamsa: I’ll just…

Hari-sauri: Here it comes. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. (Hindi) (end)