Room Conversation Prabhupada: I was living with servant and two sons. So I helped to start… [break] …took from my friends, I collected some money and… So other important members said, “Why Abhaya Babu is living separately? He should be the president of the Bombay.” I never said, but they said. I was living separately. Then Prabhupada requested, I mean to say, pleaded in my behalf so many things. He said three words, “It is better that he is living outside your company. He will do, when time will come, he’ll do himself everything. You haven’t got to recommend him.” These very words. [break] …Krsna require any president or any GBC. He’s giving chance to everyone, that’s all. Otherwise thousands of presidents and thousands of GBC may come and go, His work will go on. Krsna is complete Himself. He doesn’t require anyone’s help. That is Krsna. [break] …sei hetu pracara. One who has got life, he can preach. One is dead, what he can do? He used to say. Hamsaduta: And I’m convinced Prabhupada, that in this temple, right here, you can make every week at least two, three life members, and you can sell thousands of rupees worth of books. Yesterday I started one man, this boy Iksvaku from Germany. I said, “Just go around and greet people and show them around and sell them books.” And the first few hours he sold seventy rupees worth of books. And if I have a few people who just walk around and they walk right up to the guests and say, “How do you do? My name is so and so. I come from New York. What is your name? Where do you come from?” Prabhupada: Last night all visitors came, all respectable gentlemen. Hamsaduta: Last night four people came, they were all big businessmen. One man had been working in a big business in Germany. He spoke German perfectly well. He was an Indian man. He lives in Agra. And so many people. Because Vrndavana is the heart of India, every Indian comes once in his lifetime to Vrndavana… Prabhupada: Oh yes. Hamsaduta: …if not more times. And everyone will come to our temple. Prabhupada: Due to Vrndavana, our temple is advertised all over India. Everyone says. Hamsaduta: We haven’t even got to go out. We have simply to receive people nicely. Prabhupada: Yes. [break] …from Vrndavana. I was residing here after retirement. That Radha-Damodara, they are being paid monthly? Aksayananda: Yes. Prabhupada: You got the receipt? Aksayananda: No, I don’t have it personally. Prabhupada: Then who keeps it? Aksayananda: I don’t know. I have to check. Prabhupada: You do not know? Who is paying? Aksayananda: I’ll check with Visvambhara. I don’t know, to be quite honest. Prabhupada: Huh? Aksayananda: To be perfectly honest, I don’t know. Prabhupada: You do not know? How is that? Aksayananda: Because I’ve been away so much, Prabhupada. Prabhupada: All right. Still, you should know what is this and what is… Aksayananda: Yes, I know. [break] Prabhupada: …he was going to cleanse these rooms, so whether this is going on or not, you do not know. Then who knows it? Aksayananda: Visvambhara would know because he took full charge in my absence for all these things. Hamsaduta: You want me to take care of it? Your rooms at Radha- Damodara? You want me to take care that they’re cleaned and kept? Prabhupada: That was being done. Aksayananda: Yes, I had it being done once a week. Prabhupada: So nobody knows what is being done or… [break] So one was to control horses. So he became very much anxious, “What kind of whip I shall have to keep?” Hamsaduta: First he has to get a horse. Prabhupada: “Then, first of all, rascal, where is your horse?” (laughs) He became very much anxious, “What kind of whip?” Hamsaduta: O.K. I’ll get the horses. Prabhupada: And anyone who can purchase a horse, he can very easily purchase any whip. Not that we shall be very much anxious for the whip first. First of all, let us have a horse. The difficulty is that no horses coming. That is the difficulty. Attract horse, and you’ll find so many. Hamsaduta: O.K. (end)
with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
September 26, 1976, Vrndavana