Room Conversation Prabhupada: Now nobody can. After, no darsana. Hari-sauri: I told him darsana’s finished. Prabhupada: Yes. That’s all. Where is Tamala Krsna? Adi-kesava: I don’t know. Satsvarupa: Shall I call him? Prabhupada: No, no. Adi-kesava: I was wondering, I’ve been… While in New York I’ve been worshiping the Deities, Radha-Krsna, but now, because of this case, I’m forced to travel more between some of the temples and because of the legal work. So I was thinking to take some Deities with me to worship wherever I go. Prabhupada: No, no. Sannyasi is not required. Adi-kesava: All right. Bhakti-caru(?): Are there any murti, having? Prabhupada: No. A sannyasi’s not required. Caitanya Mahaprabhu, when he was traveling, He was not carrying any Deity. Deity worship is specially recommended for the grhasthas. That is compulsory. Adi-kesava: In the temples we should always recommend the grhasthas to worship the Deity. Prabhupada: Hm. Just like our Radha-Damodara temple, it was established… This temple was established by Jiva Gosvami. He was brahmacari. So how these gosvamis, they are worshiping? He had no sons. It was… The temple was established by him, but the worship was transferred to the grhasthas bhakta. So they are doing by generation. All these Vrndavana temples, Govindaji temple, Radha- Ramana temple, Radha-Damodara. Radha-Ramana temple, he was also brahmacari, Gopala Bhatta. He did not marry. Jiva Gosvami was brahmacari. Sanatana Gosvami and Rupa Gosvami, they sannyasis. So how these grhasthas got this seva? They were disciples, grhasthas. So grhastha disciples were meant for worshiping Deity. And others, they are meant for preaching. This is the primary principle. So if you are engaged in preaching… Deity worship, it must be done in scheduled time, this time, this time, this time. Then that is very difficult for you. Caitanya Mahaprabhu did not do that. He was traveling alone, preaching, preaching. So it will be great burden to carry Deity. But in preaching work, when you are many, you are carrying Deity in the bus. That is good, there are others, some nice engage, that is temple life. But personally if you carry some Deity, it will be troublesome. It will be hampering your preaching work. Adi-kesava: What about in the temples, when we’re visiting the temples? The temples we’re visiting now… That book that Jayatirtha was making on Deity worship following from the Hari-bhakti-vilasa, he told me he is making on your order to make a standard of Deity worship. That is the standard we should be advising the temples to follow? Prabhupada: Yes. Make it simplified. At the present moment, especially in the Western countries, it is not possible to follow very elaborate program, but what I have given already, that is sufficient, six times worshiping, arati, just like here going on, just like the same program. Not to make it difficult thing, because with the advancement of Kali-yuga, more difficulties are coming. So simple, things should be simplified. That is wanted. [break] Go on preaching from one place to another, another place. Maha-vicalanam. Mahatmas should walk. Vicalanam, “movement.” Just like I was in Vrndavana. If I had not moved, then this movement would not have been started. Because I moved at the age of seventy years, something is now tangible. So similarly, every sannyasi should move from place to place. Parivrajakacarya, that is… Acarya means teacher, and parivraja, movement. Bhavananda Maharaja has become very popular in Bengal. You can move from village to village. People will like you. You can speak little Bengali? Bhavananda: Little bit. Prabhupada: That is all right. Bhavananda: Just ek arci. Prabhupada: Tomar kamana ache? (laughter) That’s… Ami bangala boli na, “I can’t speak Bengali very well,” bolete pari na. They like it, to hear. There is nothing new. If you simply… You can read Bengali also? Bhavananda: Yes. Prabhupada: That’s all right. Then Bhagavad-gita, that’s all. People like acara, behavior. That is main thing. And nobody wants to check you, whether you know Bengali or Hindi. They see the person, that “Here is a Vaisnava.” Oh, then it is all right. Bhavananda: Srila Prabhupada, tomorrow’s program… Prabhupada: Hm. So Acyutananda has come. You all sannyasis may, one or two, remain here. And kirtana party—Acyutananda, he has got minibus. Bhavananda: Yes, I was going to fill the bus and Your Divine Grace’s car and one, Abhirama’s car. Jayapataka Maharaja is in Calcutta, and he’s returning tomorrow morning, so he thought that he would stop in Chakdaha. Prabhupada: That’s all right. Bhavananda: But we’re very, very busy, Jayapataka and I, because the festival is coming up. Would it be all right if I stayed back? I make all the arrangements, but stay behind to supervise it? Prabhupada: Yes, as you think best. [break] …heavy duty, to fight with the demons. So on the whole, our book sale is hampered or not for this propaganda? Tripurari: I don’t think so. Prabhupada: That is… Then it our triumph. You don’t mind all this. Adi-kesava: In some way I think it improves it… Prabhupada: Improves. (chuckling) Adi-kesava: …because everyone is hearing about Krsna. Prabhupada: That is our gain. I think it will improve our position. Adi-kesava: Improve our position. Prabhupada: By this agitation our position will be improved. Prahlada Maharaja was suppressed in so many means. What was loss on his part? He improved more and more, more and more. If Christ were not crucified, then his cult would not have spread so much all over the world. The Christian cult was spread all over the world after demise of Christ, not during his time. Is it not? Satsvarupa: Yes. The history was that there were many… At that time there many, many cults, and that was just another cult during the Roman Empire, and then that cult became very, very dominant. Prabhupada: Because he was persecuted, his cult became so spread. Devotee: In Brazil, Srila Prabhupada, we make a twenty minutes’ in television, very, very nice. Prabhupada: In Brazil. Devotee: Yes. Very many saw that. All, the whole Brazil saw that, Panca-tattva… Prabhupada: They have captured our books? Devotee: In Argentina. Argentina is a different mode, Srila Prabhupada. Very, very… Prabhupada: Why? Argentina is a Communist country? Devotee: No. They’re like a Third World country, Third World. There’s a lot of Communists inside the country. Prabhupada: Third World? What is that? Hari-sauri: Third World. They refer to the Arab republics, like that. They call them the Third World. Devotee: They don’t participate with the Communist countries, and they also don’t participate up there, United… Prabhupada: Third World? We have no place there? We want Fourth World? Or what is that? (laughter) Tripurari: I think there is more animal slaughter in Argentina than anywhere in the world. Prabhupada: Most sinful. Adi-kesava: That is the national industry there, cattle slaughter. Prabhupada: It has become national industry in Africa also. Hari-sauri: And Australia… Prabhupada: Australia. Hari-sauri: …New Zealand. Prabhupada: Therefore the world is suffering, so much sinful activities. The greatest sinful activity is cow slaughter, and they are committing. They do not know what will be the result. Such brain, stool, stool-bound brain. Thorough overhaul is required. That we are doing. Otherwise the stool cannot be cleansed. (Bengali) (end)
with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
February 19, 1977, Mayapura