0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,819 Bg 02-12 NY 1966-03-09 God Is Individual Person 1 00:00:01,820 --> 00:00:06,119 ANNOUNCER: The following is a class on the Bhagavad-gītā As It Is, 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,980 2nd chapter, text number 12, 3 00:00:08,981 --> 00:00:13,549 by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, 4 00:00:13,550 --> 00:00:21,399 recorded on March 19th, 1966, at the Misra Yoga Society, New York. 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,787 PRABHUPĀDA: na tv evāhaṁ jātu nāsaṁ 6 00:00:23,788 --> 00:00:29,082 na tvaṁ neme janādhipāḥ na caiva na bhaviṣyāmaḥ 7 00:00:29,083 --> 00:00:31,739 sarve vayam ataḥ param [Bg 02.12] 8 00:00:31,740 --> 00:00:33,249 What is the translation? 9 00:00:33,250 --> 00:00:39,359 “In fact there was never a time when I was not, or you or these kings were not, 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:45,629 nor is it a fact that hereafter we shall cease to be.” 11 00:00:45,630 --> 00:00:46,979 Yes. 12 00:00:46,980 --> 00:00:53,709 - Now… - DEVOTEE: “…we shall ever…” 13 00:00:53,710 --> 00:01:07,199 Kṛṣṇa is trying to convince Arjuna that death does not take place. 14 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:18,159 He says clearly that “Myself—I am the Supreme God, Kṛṣṇa—yourself, 15 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:27,499 you, and all the other kings and the soldiers, 16 00:01:27,500 --> 00:01:34,235 those who have assembled in this great battlefield, 17 00:01:34,236 --> 00:01:42,629 it is not that in the past, we were not existing. 18 00:01:42,630 --> 00:01:46,439 And in the present, we are now face to face. 19 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,589 We are seeing that we are existing. 20 00:01:49,590 --> 00:01:55,499 And in the future, we shall also exist in the same way.” 21 00:01:55,500 --> 00:01:59,079 “In the same way” means individually. 22 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,379 Just like I am an individual person. 23 00:02:02,380 --> 00:02:04,539 You are an individual person. 24 00:02:04,540 --> 00:02:07,319 He is an individual person. 25 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:12,489 So I, you, he, or they— 26 00:02:12,490 --> 00:02:21,709 first person, second person and the third person—so that individuality continues. 27 00:02:21,710 --> 00:02:29,369 Individuality of every living being is a fact. 28 00:02:29,370 --> 00:02:39,479 Therefore in the actual field also, we see that we have got difference of opinion. 29 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:47,969 What I think, you may not agree with me because you have got your individuality. 30 00:02:47,970 --> 00:02:54,269 Similarly, your thinking may not be agreed by another gentleman. 31 00:02:54,270 --> 00:02:59,289 So everyone has got his individuality. 32 00:02:59,290 --> 00:03:02,139 That is a fact. 33 00:03:02,140 --> 00:03:11,124 Not that the… Just like there is a class of philosophers who says, 34 00:03:11,125 --> 00:03:23,359 that the soul is a homogeneous, one entity, and after the destruction, 35 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:35,599 after the annihilation of this body, the soul, as a substance, will mix up. 36 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,509 Just like water. 37 00:03:39,510 --> 00:03:45,099 You keep in different pots. 38 00:03:45,100 --> 00:03:48,639 In different pots you keep water. 39 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:55,279 So the water takes the shape of the pot, the bowl, round bowl. 40 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,629 You keep water. 41 00:03:56,630 --> 00:04:02,449 The water takes the shape of round. 42 00:04:02,450 --> 00:04:10,339 So similarly, there are thousands of, or millions of, waterpots, 43 00:04:10,340 --> 00:04:15,189 and suppose all the waters are mixed up. 44 00:04:15,190 --> 00:04:18,099 Then there is no distinction. 45 00:04:18,100 --> 00:04:22,029 Just like they were in the pots. 46 00:04:22,030 --> 00:04:32,145 So their theory is that when a soul is liberated, 47 00:04:32,146 --> 00:04:39,589 then the, that it mixes up with the Supersoul. 48 00:04:39,590 --> 00:04:46,205 Just like a drop of water taken from the sea water, 49 00:04:46,206 --> 00:04:50,419 and again put it into the sea, it mixes up. 50 00:04:50,420 --> 00:04:53,679 It loses its identity. 51 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,809 So that is one theory. 52 00:04:56,810 --> 00:05:08,100 But here Lord Kṛṣṇa says that, “Myself, yourself, 53 00:05:08,101 --> 00:05:12,529 and all others who have come here…” 54 00:05:12,530 --> 00:05:21,039 There were about sixty millions of people assembled in that fight. 55 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,629 It was not a small fight. 56 00:05:24,630 --> 00:05:31,419 In India there was… Of course, that was also great world, world war. 57 00:05:31,420 --> 00:05:34,559 Just like we had experience… 58 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:41,490 I think in the First World War none of you had seen because you were all young men. 59 00:05:41,491 --> 00:05:44,150 And we were child. 60 00:05:44,151 --> 00:05:52,480 When the First World War was declared, we were all boys, schoolchildren. 61 00:05:52,481 --> 00:05:58,270 My age was at that time fourteen years old, in 1914, 62 00:05:58,271 --> 00:06:05,090 when there was fight declared between Germany and Belgium. 63 00:06:05,091 --> 00:06:07,070 So that was the First World War. 64 00:06:07,071 --> 00:06:11,920 Then Second World War was in 1939. 65 00:06:11,921 --> 00:06:15,390 That was also German and Englishmen, like that. 66 00:06:15,391 --> 00:06:19,990 But actually, this was also World War, 67 00:06:19,991 --> 00:06:28,610 this Battlefield of Kurukṣetra, because all the kings of the world, 68 00:06:28,611 --> 00:06:31,700 they joined either this party or that party. 69 00:06:31,701 --> 00:06:38,950 So there were a great assembly of all worldly kings. 70 00:06:38,951 --> 00:06:45,020 Now, Kṛṣṇa says that “Either Myself, 71 00:06:45,021 --> 00:06:56,070 either yourself, or these persons who have assembled here, they are individual. 72 00:06:56,071 --> 00:07:01,820 They were individuals in the past, they are now individuals, 73 00:07:01,821 --> 00:07:09,690 and they will continue to be individual even after annihilation of this body.” 74 00:07:09,691 --> 00:07:15,330 Now, [splice] we are, suppose… We are all laymen. 75 00:07:15,331 --> 00:07:22,660 We are ignorant, what is actually position, what is the actual position. 76 00:07:22,661 --> 00:07:27,590 But we have got our discretion also. 77 00:07:27,591 --> 00:07:36,820 Just like every one of you has some knowledge in the history. 78 00:07:36,821 --> 00:07:39,830 Now, in the history in the past… 79 00:07:39,831 --> 00:07:44,500 Suppose you are now thirty years old or thirty-five years old, 80 00:07:44,501 --> 00:07:51,710 and suppose two hundred years before, the history which you read, 81 00:07:51,711 --> 00:07:58,300 you find that all people were individuals. 82 00:07:58,301 --> 00:08:03,490 And at the present you are experiencing that all individual, they are. 83 00:08:03,491 --> 00:08:09,580 All living entities—either human being, or animals or birds, or anywhere— 84 00:08:09,581 --> 00:08:14,680 you can see that they are individual. 85 00:08:14,681 --> 00:08:20,500 Then why should you not believe that in future they will remain individual? 86 00:08:20,501 --> 00:08:22,330 Do you follow? 87 00:08:22,331 --> 00:08:29,220 In the past they were individuals, in the present they are individuals, 88 00:08:29,221 --> 00:08:33,530 and why not in future they’ll remain individuals? 89 00:08:33,531 --> 00:08:42,080 It is naturally concluded that they will continue to be individuals. 90 00:08:42,081 --> 00:08:49,000 Even we do not have any sufficient knowledge in either of these two theories, 91 00:08:49,001 --> 00:08:51,930 mixing up or keeping individual, 92 00:08:51,931 --> 00:08:57,169 but by our own small reasoning we can understand, 93 00:08:57,170 --> 00:09:02,245 that in the future history we have information, 94 00:09:02,246 --> 00:09:05,860 that there were individual persons. 95 00:09:05,861 --> 00:09:10,460 At the present moment also, we are seeing that there are individual persons. 96 00:09:10,461 --> 00:09:13,060 So why not in the future? 97 00:09:13,061 --> 00:09:18,760 How it is that in the future they’ll mix up and become one, homogeneous thing? 98 00:09:18,761 --> 00:09:23,230 It is quite reasonable. 99 00:09:23,231 --> 00:09:32,720 And this conclusion is like this: just like in two hundred years before, 100 00:09:32,721 --> 00:09:40,180 in the month of March, the climatic position was like this. 101 00:09:40,181 --> 00:09:49,650 And in 1966 we find in March the climatic position is exactly the same. 102 00:09:49,651 --> 00:09:52,573 And in future… Naturally I conclude, 103 00:09:52,574 --> 00:09:59,460 that in future in March the same climatic condition will be there. 104 00:09:59,461 --> 00:10:04,540 In astronomy also, if you find that in March, 105 00:10:04,541 --> 00:10:09,230 in such and such date, the sun rising is like this, 106 00:10:09,231 --> 00:10:15,373 and actually in the present March, month of March, 1966, 107 00:10:15,374 --> 00:10:20,238 we see the same exact time… And the whole calculation of 108 00:10:20,239 --> 00:10:22,370 astronomy is made like that. 109 00:10:22,371 --> 00:10:26,650 They prepare hundred years’ astronomical charts. 110 00:10:26,651 --> 00:10:27,460 Hundred years. 111 00:10:27,461 --> 00:10:28,930 How they do prepare? 112 00:10:28,931 --> 00:10:33,700 By this calculation, that in the past it was like this, 113 00:10:33,701 --> 00:10:40,780 at the present it is like this, so naturally, in future it will be like this. 114 00:10:40,781 --> 00:10:48,520 Just like you are speaking of the imminent springtime, that the nature, 115 00:10:48,521 --> 00:10:52,150 how will be decorate, how springtime, it will be nice, 116 00:10:52,151 --> 00:10:54,460 because you had past experience. 117 00:10:54,461 --> 00:10:56,040 So you are foretelling. 118 00:10:56,041 --> 00:10:57,590 It is not foretelling. 119 00:10:57,591 --> 00:11:01,780 From past experience, you are telling that this will take place. 120 00:11:01,781 --> 00:11:03,540 This will take place. 121 00:11:03,541 --> 00:11:11,080 So this is another point, to understand things by our reasoning. 122 00:11:11,081 --> 00:11:18,850 But there are things which is beyond our reasoning. 123 00:11:18,851 --> 00:11:27,240 There are things, just like God, the existence of God. 124 00:11:27,241 --> 00:11:30,300 Of course, by our reasoning, 125 00:11:30,301 --> 00:11:37,710 we take it for granted that because everything has a creator… 126 00:11:37,711 --> 00:11:42,630 Just like we have this tape recorder before us. 127 00:11:42,631 --> 00:11:45,650 So we know that there is a manufacturer. 128 00:11:45,651 --> 00:11:48,050 Similarly, the typewriter, there is a manufacturer. 129 00:11:48,051 --> 00:11:53,020 In everything there is a father or manufacturer. 130 00:11:53,021 --> 00:11:57,580 Myself, I am, I am created by my father. 131 00:11:57,581 --> 00:12:00,110 My father was created by his father. 132 00:12:00,111 --> 00:12:05,940 Similarly, naturally we can conclude that this whole cosmic situation, 133 00:12:05,941 --> 00:12:10,420 the whole material manifestation— there is one creator. 134 00:12:10,421 --> 00:12:11,650 You see? 135 00:12:11,651 --> 00:12:14,220 So these are simple reasoning. 136 00:12:14,221 --> 00:12:17,270 It is not very hard to understand. 137 00:12:17,271 --> 00:12:24,550 But at the same time, there are things which are beyond our experience, 138 00:12:24,551 --> 00:12:31,930 beyond our reasoning, beyond our, I mean to say, conception. 139 00:12:31,931 --> 00:12:35,430 Those things are called acintya. 140 00:12:35,431 --> 00:12:38,640 Acintya means inconceivable. 141 00:12:38,641 --> 00:12:41,810 Inconceivable. 142 00:12:41,811 --> 00:12:49,580 Now, how to understand that which is beyond our conception? 143 00:12:49,581 --> 00:12:57,096 The scriptures says like this, 144 00:12:57,097 --> 00:13:02,987 acintyaḥ khalu ye bhāvā na tāṁs tarkeṇa yojayet [Mahābhārata Bhīṣma-parva 5.22] 145 00:13:02,988 --> 00:13:08,760 “Anything which is beyond our conception, beyond our reasoning power, 146 00:13:08,761 --> 00:13:13,990 beyond our approach of the material senses, 147 00:13:13,991 --> 00:13:26,070 such things we should not try to have conception simply by arguments.” 148 00:13:26,071 --> 00:13:37,335 So in the Vedic injunction it is said that tarkaḥ apratiṣṭha: 149 00:13:37,336 --> 00:13:44,490 “By… What should be the… What should be our real understanding, 150 00:13:44,491 --> 00:13:50,830 that we cannot establish simply by argument.” 151 00:13:50,831 --> 00:13:55,630 tarkaḥ apratiṣṭhaḥ smṛtayo vibhinnāḥ [CC Madhya 17.186]: 152 00:13:55,631 --> 00:14:01,420 “If we consult different scriptures, 153 00:14:01,421 --> 00:14:05,210 then we’ll find that one scripture is speaking something, 154 00:14:05,211 --> 00:14:08,870 another scripture is speaking something else.” 155 00:14:08,871 --> 00:14:13,060 Just like cow-killing. 156 00:14:13,061 --> 00:14:15,260 Take, take it for example. 157 00:14:15,261 --> 00:14:24,380 The Hindus, they say that cow-killing is irreligious. 158 00:14:24,381 --> 00:14:30,610 The Muhammadans say, “No, cow-killing is religious.” 159 00:14:30,611 --> 00:14:38,680 There is some adjustment, but… Now, in the scripture I see that the cow-killing, 160 00:14:38,681 --> 00:14:43,840 in some scriptures it is said that cow-killing is irreligious, 161 00:14:43,841 --> 00:14:49,530 and another scripture says that cow-killing is religious. 162 00:14:49,531 --> 00:14:52,420 So which of them I shall accept? 163 00:14:52,421 --> 00:14:56,130 This is ni… This is all right, or that is all right? 164 00:14:56,131 --> 00:15:02,800 So therefore it is said that smṛtayo vibhinnāḥ. 165 00:15:02,801 --> 00:15:13,220 If you consult different scriptures, you’ll find different contradictory statements. 166 00:15:13,221 --> 00:15:18,950 Your scripture may be different from my scripture. 167 00:15:18,951 --> 00:15:19,336 And… 168 00:15:19,337 --> 00:15:22,570 nāsau munir yasya mataṁ na bhinnam [Mahābhārata Vana-pārva 313.117] 169 00:15:22,571 --> 00:15:24,770 If you consult philosophers, 170 00:15:24,771 --> 00:15:30,480 you’ll find one philosopher is differing from another philosopher. 171 00:15:30,481 --> 00:15:36,981 A big philosopher means who has cut down other philosophers, 172 00:15:36,982 --> 00:15:42,620 and put up his own theory, “This is true.” 173 00:15:42,621 --> 00:15:45,210 This is going on. 174 00:15:45,211 --> 00:15:45,930 So, 175 00:15:45,931 --> 00:15:53,730 tarko ’pratiṣṭhaḥ smṛtayo vibhinnā nāsau munir yasya mataṁ na bhinnam [Cc. Madhya 17.186] 176 00:15:53,731 --> 00:16:00,080 Then how to conclude what is the right path? 177 00:16:00,081 --> 00:16:07,450 I cannot establish it by my imperfect arguments. 178 00:16:07,451 --> 00:16:11,810 I cannot consult even the scriptures. 179 00:16:11,811 --> 00:16:19,740 Neither I can take real instruction from different philosophers. 180 00:16:19,741 --> 00:16:27,970 Then what, what is the way of having the real thing? 181 00:16:27,971 --> 00:16:29,502 So it says that, 182 00:16:29,503 --> 00:16:34,320 dharmasya tattvaṁ nihitaṁ guhāyām [Cc. Madhya 17.186] 183 00:16:34,321 --> 00:16:45,310 “The truth of religiosity is very confidential, very secret.” 184 00:16:45,311 --> 00:16:47,140 So how to know it? 185 00:16:47,141 --> 00:16:49,892 mahājano yena gataḥ sa panthāḥ [Mahābhārata Vana-pārva 313.117] 186 00:16:49,893 --> 00:16:53,820 “We have simply to see that great personalities, 187 00:16:53,821 --> 00:16:56,230 as they have taken up, we have to follow. 188 00:16:56,231 --> 00:16:59,490 That’s all.” 189 00:16:59,491 --> 00:17:06,309 Just like in your Christian religion you may not understand 190 00:17:06,310 --> 00:17:11,228 all the Biblical injunctions or you may not have the time, 191 00:17:11,229 --> 00:17:17,624 but you’ll simply, if you follow the ideal life of Lord Jesus Christ, 192 00:17:17,625 --> 00:17:21,590 then you get the same result. 193 00:17:21,591 --> 00:17:24,930 Similarly, the Muhammadans, 194 00:17:24,931 --> 00:17:36,240 if they follow the ideal life of Muhammad, Hazrat Muhammad, so they get the result. 195 00:17:36,241 --> 00:17:39,750 mahājano yena gataḥ sa panthāḥ [Cc. Madhya 17.186] 196 00:17:39,751 --> 00:17:46,918 Just like in a unknown path, in a village, especially when there is a field… 197 00:17:46,919 --> 00:17:52,117 Now, in, in the city, you can know that “I have come so far” 198 00:17:52,118 --> 00:17:55,989 because the streets are numbered and the, you have got the location 199 00:17:55,990 --> 00:17:58,870 and there are some symptoms, this house or that house. 200 00:17:58,871 --> 00:18:07,390 But in the country, everything, every, every place is of the same similar nature, 201 00:18:07,391 --> 00:18:12,860 the same jungle, the same field, the same grass. 202 00:18:12,861 --> 00:18:17,010 We do not know where I am going. 203 00:18:17,011 --> 00:18:18,520 Or in the sea. 204 00:18:18,521 --> 00:18:19,740 Or in the sea. 205 00:18:19,741 --> 00:18:21,830 I have got experience. 206 00:18:21,831 --> 00:18:24,361 Have you ever traveled in the sea? 207 00:18:24,362 --> 00:18:25,141 No. 208 00:18:25,142 --> 00:18:29,526 But when I was coming from India, 209 00:18:29,527 --> 00:18:36,901 so everywhere I see a round only, round of water. 210 00:18:36,902 --> 00:18:41,111 I do not know which way the ship is proceeding. 211 00:18:41,112 --> 00:18:41,971 You see? 212 00:18:41,972 --> 00:18:44,731 But they have got a chart. 213 00:18:44,732 --> 00:18:45,991 They have got a chart. 214 00:18:45,992 --> 00:18:51,231 By latitude, longitude, by time and by chart, they are calculating. 215 00:18:51,232 --> 00:18:54,691 Now, I was asking the Captain, “Where we have come?” 216 00:18:54,692 --> 00:18:59,671 He was saying, in the Mediterranean Sea, “Oh, we are so many miles from Italy. 217 00:18:59,672 --> 00:19:03,341 We are so many miles from…” Like this. 218 00:19:03,342 --> 00:19:04,401 “Tunisia. 219 00:19:04,402 --> 00:19:05,951 Now we are coming to Gibraltar.” 220 00:19:05,952 --> 00:19:07,171 Like this. 221 00:19:07,172 --> 00:19:11,081 But I was seeing all vast of water only. 222 00:19:11,082 --> 00:19:15,771 I was seeing, “Just after ten miles I shall reach,” but it never reaches. 223 00:19:15,772 --> 00:19:19,721 So then how, what are these charts? 224 00:19:19,722 --> 00:19:26,831 The charts are that experienced sailors, they have made the charts. 225 00:19:26,832 --> 00:19:30,220 The captain was also consulting that chart 226 00:19:30,221 --> 00:19:34,709 because it was made by experienced sailors. 227 00:19:34,710 --> 00:19:36,261 That is nothing. 228 00:19:36,262 --> 00:19:42,681 So similarly in calculating in which way we have to 229 00:19:42,682 --> 00:19:50,987 find out our salvation, is to follow such liberated souls. 230 00:19:50,988 --> 00:19:54,114 So last day we had been discussing 231 00:19:54,115 --> 00:19:59,611 that difference between the conditioned soul and liberated soul, 232 00:19:59,612 --> 00:20:08,004 is that a conditioned soul is imperfect in four ways. 233 00:20:08,005 --> 00:20:16,521 A conditioned soul is sure to commit mistake, a conditioned soul is in illusion. 234 00:20:16,522 --> 00:20:22,446 A conditioned soul has the tendency for cheating others, 235 00:20:22,447 --> 00:20:32,241 and a conditioned soul has got his senses imperfect, imperfect senses. 236 00:20:32,242 --> 00:20:40,651 Therefore knowledge should be taken from a liberated soul. 237 00:20:40,652 --> 00:20:45,951 Why this Bhagavad- gītā is so honored? 238 00:20:45,952 --> 00:20:50,901 Now, this Bhagavad-gītā was spoken in India, 239 00:20:50,902 --> 00:20:56,521 and it is understood that it is a scripture of the Hindus. 240 00:20:56,522 --> 00:20:58,751 But why…? 241 00:20:58,752 --> 00:21:00,791 Now, you are Americans. 242 00:21:00,792 --> 00:21:04,524 You are also keeping this Bhagavad-gītā, 243 00:21:04,525 --> 00:21:09,371 and not only in America, in other countries also, in Germany. 244 00:21:09,372 --> 00:21:18,761 In Germany there are great, great scholars, in England, in Japan, in all countries. 245 00:21:18,762 --> 00:21:20,081 So why? 246 00:21:20,082 --> 00:21:25,281 Because it is spoken by a great personality. 247 00:21:25,282 --> 00:21:28,730 Apart from… We may… We Hindus, 248 00:21:28,731 --> 00:21:33,348 we accept Him the Supreme Personality of Godhead, but others, 249 00:21:33,349 --> 00:21:40,259 even not accepting Him the Supreme Personality of Godhead, they accept it as, 250 00:21:40,260 --> 00:21:44,691 at least, that He was a great personality. 251 00:21:44,692 --> 00:21:48,931 Therefore, besides the Hindu community, 252 00:21:48,932 --> 00:21:53,261 others, they are also consulting the knowledge. 253 00:21:53,262 --> 00:21:58,891 Now, my point is that when such a great personality, 254 00:21:58,892 --> 00:22:05,281 and when a…, we accept Him as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, 255 00:22:05,282 --> 00:22:09,641 then His version is right. 256 00:22:09,642 --> 00:22:15,490 What He says, that from our practical experience we can conclude, 257 00:22:15,491 --> 00:22:20,441 that every individual persons who were in the past individuals, 258 00:22:20,442 --> 00:22:26,681 they are also individuals at the present, and they’ll continue to be individuals, 259 00:22:26,682 --> 00:22:33,081 and this is by our common sense, but it is confirmed by Śrī Kṛṣṇa, 260 00:22:33,082 --> 00:22:37,771 whom we call the Supreme Personality of Godhead, 261 00:22:37,772 --> 00:22:42,101 and He is accepted as a great personality. 262 00:22:42,102 --> 00:22:43,306 He says, 263 00:22:43,307 --> 00:22:46,825 na tu eva ahaṁ jātu nāsam [Bg 02.12]: 264 00:22:46,826 --> 00:22:52,621 “Don’t think that I was not in existence.” 265 00:22:52,622 --> 00:22:56,166 That means “I was in existence,” not that, 266 00:22:56,167 --> 00:23:01,511 “Just now I have come before you as God, as Śrī Kṛṣṇa. 267 00:23:01,512 --> 00:23:10,981 I was Śrī Kṛṣṇa in the past also, and I am Śrī Kṛṣṇa at the present. 268 00:23:10,982 --> 00:23:16,891 So also yourself, and so also others—all individuals. 269 00:23:16,892 --> 00:23:19,061 So and at the present we are.” 270 00:23:19,062 --> 00:23:20,470 na caiva na bhaviṣyāmaḥ [Bg 2.12]: 271 00:23:20,471 --> 00:23:23,381 “And don’t think that we shall not remain.” 272 00:23:23,382 --> 00:23:24,531 Sarve. 273 00:23:24,532 --> 00:23:30,561 This sarve means “we all,” not that… Sarve is plural number. 274 00:23:30,562 --> 00:23:33,251 Janādhipāḥ is plural number. 275 00:23:33,252 --> 00:23:36,331 “So they are all individual souls.” 276 00:23:36,332 --> 00:23:39,941 So the individual soul continues. 277 00:23:39,942 --> 00:23:41,511 That is the version. 278 00:23:41,512 --> 00:23:43,836 That is the version of the Bhagavad-gītā, 279 00:23:43,837 --> 00:23:53,195 and we… It is better to accept this version without unnecessarily commenting it, 280 00:23:53,196 --> 00:24:03,361 or interpreting it in a different way so that one… Interpretation is very bad. 281 00:24:03,362 --> 00:24:04,121 You see? 282 00:24:04,122 --> 00:24:07,801 A scripture should not be interpreted. 283 00:24:07,802 --> 00:24:13,381 A scripture should be taken as it is, as it is. 284 00:24:13,382 --> 00:24:17,992 And besides that, interpretation… 285 00:24:17,993 --> 00:24:20,691 When interpretation is required? 286 00:24:20,692 --> 00:24:28,261 When a thing is not properly understood, at that time, interpretation is required. 287 00:24:28,262 --> 00:24:32,671 Otherwise, there is no necessity of interpretation. 288 00:24:32,672 --> 00:24:40,572 Just like you… [indistinct] that “Such and such village” or 289 00:24:40,573 --> 00:24:44,828 “such and such town is on the sea.” 290 00:24:44,829 --> 00:24:46,631 Somebody says. [splice] 291 00:24:46,632 --> 00:24:51,931 So similarly, a thing which is very clear to everyone, 292 00:24:51,932 --> 00:24:54,891 so there is no necessity of interpretation. 293 00:24:54,892 --> 00:25:04,681 Here the, the statement of Bhagavad-gītā as by, spoken by Lord Kṛṣṇa, is very clear, 294 00:25:04,682 --> 00:25:11,501 that “Myself, yourself and all these people who have assembled here, 295 00:25:11,502 --> 00:25:13,871 they are all individual persons. 296 00:25:13,872 --> 00:25:19,821 And they were individual persons in the past, and at the present moment, 297 00:25:19,822 --> 00:25:23,951 we see that they are individual persons, and they will continue. 298 00:25:23,952 --> 00:25:25,371 They will continue.” 299 00:25:25,372 --> 00:25:31,361 I may not know what they will become in the future, but because He is God, 300 00:25:31,362 --> 00:25:36,951 because He is the Supreme Personality, His statement should be accepted. 301 00:25:36,952 --> 00:25:42,421 That makes my knowledge perfect. 302 00:25:42,422 --> 00:25:50,031 Just like I give you one very simple example. 303 00:25:50,032 --> 00:26:01,561 Now, if a little boy asks his mother that “Who is my father?” 304 00:26:01,562 --> 00:26:06,321 The mother says that “Here is your father.” 305 00:26:06,322 --> 00:26:15,171 Now, if the child says, “I don’t believe it, that he is my father.” 306 00:26:15,172 --> 00:26:22,471 Is it possible to convince him in any other way, than the statement of the mother? 307 00:26:22,472 --> 00:26:23,771 Is it possible? 308 00:26:23,772 --> 00:26:24,911 No. 309 00:26:24,912 --> 00:26:28,861 That is the final. 310 00:26:28,862 --> 00:26:31,311 That is the final. 311 00:26:31,312 --> 00:26:38,391 And if he says, “I don’t believe it,” that is his foolishness. 312 00:26:38,392 --> 00:26:43,811 Similarly, a thing which is beyond our conception, 313 00:26:43,812 --> 00:26:51,091 beyond our limit of knowledge, that should be taken from the authority. 314 00:26:51,092 --> 00:26:54,071 So here is an authority, Śrī Kṛṣṇa. 315 00:26:54,072 --> 00:26:56,031 Authority. 316 00:26:56,032 --> 00:27:03,071 His authority, authorityship, is accepted by all over the world. 317 00:27:03,072 --> 00:27:12,871 In, in our India there are five different disciplic succession of authorities, 318 00:27:12,872 --> 00:27:24,241 just like the Śaṅkarites, followers of Śaṅkarācārya, and Vaiṣṇavites. 319 00:27:24,242 --> 00:27:32,991 Generally, they are two: Māyāvādī, impersonalists; and personalists. 320 00:27:32,992 --> 00:27:39,338 The personalist school, philosophers, they are divided into four: 321 00:27:39,339 --> 00:27:44,487 Rāmānuja-sampradāya—that means followers of Ācārya Rāmānuja; 322 00:27:44,488 --> 00:27:51,338 Madhvācārya-sampradāya, or the followers of Madhvācārya; 323 00:27:51,339 --> 00:27:55,347 Nimbārka-sampradāya, followers of Nimbārka Ācārya; 324 00:27:55,348 --> 00:27:58,351 and Viṣṇusvāmī-sampradāya. 325 00:27:58,352 --> 00:28:02,221 They, their conclusion is the same. 326 00:28:02,222 --> 00:28:05,601 Although they are four in number, their conclusion is the same. 327 00:28:05,602 --> 00:28:09,761 And another sect is Śaṅkarite sampradāya. 328 00:28:09,762 --> 00:28:14,981 So all these four, I mean, five different section of the Hindus, 329 00:28:14,982 --> 00:28:19,751 they accept Śrī Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme Personality of Godhead. 330 00:28:19,752 --> 00:28:20,901 All of them. 331 00:28:20,902 --> 00:28:23,091 There is no denial. 332 00:28:23,092 --> 00:28:27,821 Although they are five, they have got different theses and philosophies, 333 00:28:27,822 --> 00:28:31,592 little, little difference, not, I mean, conclusion, 334 00:28:31,593 --> 00:28:39,134 but still… Now, Śrīpāda Śaṅkarācārya, he, he is supposed, 335 00:28:39,135 --> 00:28:41,791 he is considered to be impersonalist. 336 00:28:41,792 --> 00:28:48,221 Impersonalist means he does not believe in the personal form of God. 337 00:28:48,222 --> 00:28:56,051 But still, he has commented in this, of this Bhagavad-gītā, śaṅkara-bhāṣya. 338 00:28:56,052 --> 00:29:01,831 He has admitted there that “Śrī Kṛṣṇa is the Personality of Godhead.” 339 00:29:01,832 --> 00:29:03,621 He has also admitted. 340 00:29:03,622 --> 00:29:09,241 Others, they are Vaiṣṇavites, other ācāryas, other authorities, they are Vaiṣṇavites. 341 00:29:09,242 --> 00:29:14,171 They have naturally admitted because they believe from the beginning. 342 00:29:14,172 --> 00:29:17,841 But even Śaṅkarācārya, who is impersonalist, 343 00:29:17,842 --> 00:29:23,916 he has also clearly written that, sa bhagavān svayaṁ kṛṣṇaḥ [śaṅkara-bhāṣya] 344 00:29:23,917 --> 00:29:29,601 “Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead.” 345 00:29:29,602 --> 00:29:33,654 And there are many evidences in many scriptures and Vedic scriptures, 346 00:29:33,655 --> 00:29:37,091 that Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. 347 00:29:37,092 --> 00:29:39,171 In the Brahma-saṁhitā it is stated, 348 00:29:39,172 --> 00:29:42,922 īśvaraḥ paramaḥ kṛṣṇaḥ sac-cid-ānanda-vigrahaḥ 349 00:29:42,923 --> 00:29:47,621 anādir ādir govindaḥ sarva-kāraṇa-kāraṇam [Bs. 5.1] 350 00:29:47,622 --> 00:29:49,521 Īśvaraḥ paramaḥ. 351 00:29:49,522 --> 00:29:51,031 Īśvara. 352 00:29:51,032 --> 00:29:53,181 Īśvara means the Lord. 353 00:29:53,182 --> 00:29:58,511 Now, there are different lords, different lords, degree. 354 00:29:58,512 --> 00:30:03,041 Lord means controller or proprietor. 355 00:30:03,042 --> 00:30:08,821 So you have got some lordship over your environment. 356 00:30:08,822 --> 00:30:10,241 He has got some lordship. 357 00:30:10,242 --> 00:30:12,281 I have got some lordship. 358 00:30:12,282 --> 00:30:14,481 He has got some lordship. 359 00:30:14,482 --> 00:30:18,001 Or the President Johnson, he has got some lordship. 360 00:30:18,002 --> 00:30:24,301 In this way you’ll find different degrees of lordship. 361 00:30:24,302 --> 00:30:32,981 But here it is said that the supreme, superlative degree Lord is Kṛṣṇa. 362 00:30:32,982 --> 00:30:36,041 Above Him, there is no other Lord. 363 00:30:36,042 --> 00:30:40,961 Here we shall find that you are bigger lord than me, he is bigger than lord you, 364 00:30:40,962 --> 00:30:43,291 and somebody is bigger than him. 365 00:30:43,292 --> 00:30:47,411 In this way you can approach the lordship of Johnson. 366 00:30:47,412 --> 00:30:49,751 Then you can see another man. 367 00:30:49,752 --> 00:30:54,461 He is more than Johnson; another man, more than Johnson, like that. 368 00:30:54,462 --> 00:30:59,521 But when you reach Śrī Kṛṣṇa by such analytical process, 369 00:30:59,522 --> 00:31:05,751 you’ll find that nobody is greater, nobody is equal than Śrī Kṛṣṇa. 370 00:31:05,752 --> 00:31:10,261 Therefore Śrī Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. 371 00:31:10,262 --> 00:31:18,484 And He says something— we must agree to accept it. 372 00:31:18,485 --> 00:31:23,951 We must… If we don’t agree, that will not be beneficial for us. 373 00:31:23,952 --> 00:31:28,801 When a great man says something… And He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. 374 00:31:28,802 --> 00:31:34,301 He is saying that we are all individual persons. 375 00:31:34,302 --> 00:31:36,011 We are all individual persons. 376 00:31:36,012 --> 00:31:38,251 God is also individual person. 377 00:31:38,252 --> 00:31:42,891 It is confirmed in the Vedic literature. 378 00:31:42,892 --> 00:31:47,201 nityo nityānāṁ cetanaś cetanānām [Kaṭha Upaniṣad 2.2.13] 379 00:31:47,202 --> 00:31:49,501 Nityo nityānām. 380 00:31:49,502 --> 00:31:50,991 Nitya means eternal. 381 00:31:50,992 --> 00:31:52,801 We are all eternal. 382 00:31:52,802 --> 00:31:54,411 This is plural number. 383 00:31:54,412 --> 00:31:59,581 So amongst all the eternal living entities, He is the chief. 384 00:31:59,582 --> 00:32:04,391 This is a definition of God, is given in the… Nityo nitya. 385 00:32:04,392 --> 00:32:07,815 Cetanānām, nit…, cetanaś cetanānām: 386 00:32:07,816 --> 00:32:11,361 “We are all conscious, conscious beings.” 387 00:32:11,362 --> 00:32:17,951 So He is the supreme conscious. 388 00:32:17,952 --> 00:32:20,071 He is the supreme conscious. 389 00:32:20,072 --> 00:32:28,181 Now, of course, there are some yogic schools. 390 00:32:28,182 --> 00:32:30,421 In America you’ll find. 391 00:32:30,422 --> 00:32:33,661 They do not believe in God. 392 00:32:33,662 --> 00:32:36,144 But it is not actually… 393 00:32:36,145 --> 00:32:43,981 The yoga principle does not deny the existence of God. 394 00:32:43,982 --> 00:32:45,403 God is there. 395 00:32:45,404 --> 00:32:53,251 Now, just to inform you I have just brought one, 396 00:32:53,252 --> 00:33:01,381 very authoritative book by two great professors of Calcutta University. 397 00:33:01,382 --> 00:33:05,041 The book is called Introduction to Indian Philosophy. 398 00:33:05,042 --> 00:33:11,728 Now he says… “He says” means he is giving, after studying, 399 00:33:11,729 --> 00:33:16,235 all different kinds of philosophy, he is giving a nutshell idea 400 00:33:16,236 --> 00:33:19,611 of each type of philos… system. 401 00:33:19,612 --> 00:33:26,598 Now, just see: “The place of God in the yoga… 402 00:33:26,599 --> 00:33:32,690 The place of God in the yoga, as distinguished from the Sāṅkhya, 403 00:33:32,691 --> 00:33:35,591 the yoga is theistic.” 404 00:33:35,592 --> 00:33:42,101 Yoga system was introduced by Lord Patañjali, a great authority. 405 00:33:42,102 --> 00:33:43,121 You see? 406 00:33:43,122 --> 00:33:46,351 Now they have studied. 407 00:33:46,352 --> 00:33:48,021 Here is two persons. 408 00:33:48,022 --> 00:33:50,341 And this book is very authoritative. 409 00:33:50,342 --> 00:33:51,971 This is the sixth edition. 410 00:33:51,972 --> 00:33:53,061 Just see. 411 00:33:53,062 --> 00:33:58,681 It has very good sale in all the universities of the world. 412 00:33:58,682 --> 00:34:00,631 It is a very authoritative book. 413 00:34:00,632 --> 00:34:07,041 And this Dr. Chatterjee and Dr. Datta, they are not ordinary persons. 414 00:34:07,042 --> 00:34:09,731 This is accepted by all universities. 415 00:34:09,732 --> 00:34:11,341 And they are authoritative persons. 416 00:34:11,342 --> 00:34:14,431 Now, just, I am therefore reading his version. 417 00:34:14,432 --> 00:34:16,061 What does he say? 418 00:34:16,062 --> 00:34:18,341 The yoga system. 419 00:34:18,342 --> 00:34:24,281 Now, “As distinguished from the Sāṅkhya, the yoga is theistic.” 420 00:34:24,282 --> 00:34:25,901 Yoga system is theistic. 421 00:34:25,902 --> 00:34:30,182 Theistic means believing in God. [splice] 422 00:34:30,183 --> 00:34:39,782 It admits the existence of God and both practical and theoretical Gods. 423 00:34:39,783 --> 00:34:42,002 Patañjali himself, however, 424 00:34:42,003 --> 00:34:48,352 has not felt the necessity of God for solving any theoretical problem of philosophy. 425 00:34:48,353 --> 00:34:54,452 For him, God has more a practical value than a theoretical one. 426 00:34:54,453 --> 00:34:56,902 This is the version of Patañjali. 427 00:34:56,903 --> 00:34:58,572 You see? 428 00:34:58,573 --> 00:35:03,622 Devotion to God is considered to be the great practical value, 429 00:35:03,623 --> 00:35:09,492 as much as it forms a part of practice of yoga. 430 00:35:09,493 --> 00:35:13,612 Those who are practicing yoga, they must be devotee of God. 431 00:35:13,613 --> 00:35:18,992 Otherwise, yoga will be a failure. 432 00:35:18,993 --> 00:35:20,742 You see? 433 00:35:20,743 --> 00:35:25,650 So inasmuch as it forms a part of practice of yoga, 434 00:35:25,651 --> 00:35:29,722 and is one of the means for the final attainment of 435 00:35:29,723 --> 00:35:35,192 samādhi-yoga or the restraint of the mind… 436 00:35:35,193 --> 00:35:36,902 That yoga, citta-niruddha. 437 00:35:36,903 --> 00:35:44,222 The whole purpose of practicing yoga is to control the mind, control the mind. 438 00:35:44,223 --> 00:35:52,082 Now, here Patañjali system, that unless you, I mean, 439 00:35:52,083 --> 00:35:59,191 conduct devotional service of Lord, or bhakti, there is no success of yoga. 440 00:35:59,192 --> 00:36:01,082 There is no success of yoga. 441 00:36:01,083 --> 00:36:04,302 The subsequent commentators and interpreters… 442 00:36:04,303 --> 00:36:14,892 The difficulty is that wrong interpretation of the original text deludes the audience. 443 00:36:14,893 --> 00:36:16,158 You see? 444 00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:21,560 So they're… The subsequent commentators and interpreters of the yoga reveals also 445 00:36:21,561 --> 00:36:25,885 a theoretical interest in God and discuss more fully, 446 00:36:25,886 --> 00:36:29,992 the speculative problems as to the nature of God, 447 00:36:29,993 --> 00:36:32,492 and the proof for the existence of God. 448 00:36:32,493 --> 00:36:39,832 They practically take up the speculative way. 449 00:36:39,833 --> 00:36:46,562 But Patañjali, as he is, he takes practically, that without devotion of God, 450 00:36:46,563 --> 00:36:49,192 there is no success of yoga. 451 00:36:49,193 --> 00:36:53,570 Thus the yoga system has come to have both a theoretical 452 00:36:53,571 --> 00:36:58,126 and practical interest in the divine will. 453 00:36:58,127 --> 00:37:02,062 According to the yoga, God is the Supreme Person. 454 00:37:02,063 --> 00:37:05,362 Now just see. 455 00:37:05,363 --> 00:37:08,822 This is authoritative statement. 456 00:37:08,823 --> 00:37:13,102 A Supreme Person. 457 00:37:13,103 --> 00:37:14,572 Did you ever hear…? 458 00:37:14,573 --> 00:37:17,062 You have been in so many yoga societies. 459 00:37:17,063 --> 00:37:21,262 Did you ever hear that God is the Supreme Person? 460 00:37:21,263 --> 00:37:23,222 Now just see. 461 00:37:23,223 --> 00:37:24,892 According to the yoga, 462 00:37:24,893 --> 00:37:26,668 God is the Supreme Person, 463 00:37:26,669 --> 00:37:32,052 who is above all individual selves and is free from all defects. 464 00:37:32,053 --> 00:37:40,862 Now, the same thing, in the Bhagavad- gītā also, Lord Kṛṣṇa, He, He is telling. 465 00:37:40,863 --> 00:37:49,782 He is informing us about the future or of the past because He is perfect. 466 00:37:49,783 --> 00:37:53,912 He can see both past and future. 467 00:37:53,913 --> 00:37:58,542 Because we are not perfect, because we do not know… 468 00:37:58,543 --> 00:38:05,742 Now, accepting it that you existed in, in your, in the future… 469 00:38:05,743 --> 00:38:08,882 Say your age is thirty- four, thirty-five years. 470 00:38:08,883 --> 00:38:14,312 Can you say, thirty-six years before, where you were? 471 00:38:14,313 --> 00:38:17,162 You cannot say. 472 00:38:17,163 --> 00:38:20,102 Or suppose you live for hundred years. 473 00:38:20,103 --> 00:38:23,942 Can you say hundred years after where you shall be? 474 00:38:23,943 --> 00:38:31,692 You cannot say, because you are imperfect, because you are imperfect. 475 00:38:31,693 --> 00:38:33,922 So God is not imperfect. 476 00:38:33,923 --> 00:38:35,672 God is perfect being. 477 00:38:35,673 --> 00:38:38,852 Here yoga system also accept like that. 478 00:38:38,853 --> 00:38:44,472 According to the yoga, God is the Supreme Person who is above all individual… 479 00:38:44,473 --> 00:38:47,892 Individual, now here you see the individual. 480 00:38:47,893 --> 00:38:51,832 The every, every living entity is individual. 481 00:38:51,833 --> 00:39:01,152 That, this particular word, that individual self and is free from all defects. 482 00:39:01,153 --> 00:39:07,552 And because He’s free from all defects, His statement is defectless. 483 00:39:07,553 --> 00:39:10,442 And therefore we must admit. 484 00:39:10,443 --> 00:39:18,052 My statement, because I am imperfect, my statement is also imperfect. 485 00:39:18,053 --> 00:39:20,612 I have no idea of the past and future. 486 00:39:20,613 --> 00:39:26,112 How can I say that in future you will be like this, or in the past you were like this? 487 00:39:26,113 --> 00:39:28,432 I cannot say. 488 00:39:28,433 --> 00:39:33,522 That, who is defectless—who can see past, future and present equally, 489 00:39:33,523 --> 00:39:35,682 and there is no defect—He can say. 490 00:39:35,683 --> 00:39:38,942 So here is the statement of the Supreme Person. 491 00:39:38,943 --> 00:39:41,919 We have to believe it. 492 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,922 We cannot go out of it. 493 00:39:43,923 --> 00:39:47,422 If we don’t believe it, then we are loser. 494 00:39:47,423 --> 00:39:51,822 If we don’t believe it, then we are loser. 495 00:39:51,823 --> 00:39:56,462 He is the perfect being who is eternal and all-pervading. 496 00:39:56,463 --> 00:39:59,232 Just see, all-pervading. 497 00:39:59,233 --> 00:40:07,575 That means, although you can see Him as a person… Just like you are present 498 00:40:07,576 --> 00:40:15,452 before me as a person, but you are absent in your residence. 499 00:40:15,453 --> 00:40:16,752 Is it not? 500 00:40:16,753 --> 00:40:21,272 But God is not like that. 501 00:40:21,273 --> 00:40:26,652 God is, although He’s present, Kṛṣṇa, although He’s present just before Arjuna, 502 00:40:26,653 --> 00:40:32,592 instructing him, but He’s all- pervading at the same time. 503 00:40:32,593 --> 00:40:34,102 A crude example. 504 00:40:34,103 --> 00:40:43,572 Just like at twelve o’clock in the mid-day, you see that the sun is above your head. 505 00:40:43,573 --> 00:40:49,192 And five thousand miles away, if you ask any friend, “Where is the sun?” 506 00:40:49,193 --> 00:40:54,082 he’ll say, “It is on my head.” 507 00:40:54,083 --> 00:41:01,292 Five thousand miles this way, that way, you inquire, and everyone will say, 508 00:41:01,293 --> 00:41:05,242 “The sun is on my head.” 509 00:41:05,243 --> 00:41:09,842 So if a material thing… Sun is a material thing. 510 00:41:09,843 --> 00:41:15,792 If a material entity can be so all- pervading, at one and the same time, 511 00:41:15,793 --> 00:41:21,012 so is it not that the supreme spiritual being, He’ll not be all-pervading? 512 00:41:21,013 --> 00:41:22,772 He is, certainly. 513 00:41:22,773 --> 00:41:23,992 He must be. 514 00:41:23,993 --> 00:41:25,332 He must be. 515 00:41:25,333 --> 00:41:34,152 So here you see that He is the perfect being who is eternal… And eternal. 516 00:41:34,153 --> 00:41:39,412 Eternal means that… Eternal means everything. 517 00:41:39,413 --> 00:41:41,982 Eternal in consciousness. 518 00:41:41,983 --> 00:41:47,966 Now, Kṛṣṇa says that “You and Myself and all these beings were like this,” 519 00:41:47,967 --> 00:41:50,567 because He has got eternal consciousness. 520 00:41:50,568 --> 00:41:55,382 He has actually experienced what I was. 521 00:41:55,383 --> 00:41:58,509 But because my consciousness is not eternal, 522 00:41:58,510 --> 00:42:01,992 I have forgotten what I was in my previous birth. 523 00:42:01,993 --> 00:42:07,082 Neither I can say what I shall be in my next birth. 524 00:42:07,083 --> 00:42:09,322 These are the distinctions. 525 00:42:09,323 --> 00:42:17,242 If we falsely claim that “I am God, I am that supreme consciousness,” it is our lunacy. 526 00:42:17,243 --> 00:42:18,872 It is our lunacy. 527 00:42:18,873 --> 00:42:21,531 We should not indulge in that way, 528 00:42:21,532 --> 00:42:27,052 and anyone teaching in that way, that is a cheating. 529 00:42:27,053 --> 00:42:28,232 It is not possible. 530 00:42:28,233 --> 00:42:30,112 Here is an authoritative book. 531 00:42:30,113 --> 00:42:41,482 He is the perfect being who is eternal and all-pervading, omnipotent, omniscient. 532 00:42:41,483 --> 00:42:50,402 All individual selves are more or less subject to the affliction of ignorance. 533 00:42:50,403 --> 00:42:55,543 We are, all living entities except God, everyone, 534 00:42:55,544 --> 00:43:01,532 everyone, they are subjected to ignorance, forgetfulness. 535 00:43:01,533 --> 00:43:02,712 That’s a fact. 536 00:43:02,713 --> 00:43:05,892 Ignorance, egoism. 537 00:43:05,893 --> 00:43:12,742 Egoism means that without having the qualification, one declares that “I am God.” 538 00:43:12,743 --> 00:43:14,652 This is egoism. 539 00:43:14,653 --> 00:43:19,742 Without having the qualification of God, if one declares that “I am God,” 540 00:43:19,743 --> 00:43:24,342 a foolish man, that is called egoism. 541 00:43:24,343 --> 00:43:29,612 Egoism, desire, aversion and dread of death. 542 00:43:29,613 --> 00:43:32,337 They have to do various kinds of work, 543 00:43:32,338 --> 00:43:38,542 good, bad, and indifferent, and reap the consequences thereof. 544 00:43:38,543 --> 00:43:44,211 That means they are subjected to the acts of your, 545 00:43:44,212 --> 00:43:47,682 I mean to say, reaction of their acts. 546 00:43:47,683 --> 00:43:50,452 If you do some good thing, then you reap the good result. 547 00:43:50,453 --> 00:43:55,902 If you do some bad thing, then you reap the bad result. 548 00:43:55,903 --> 00:44:02,712 And because we are defective, therefore we do something good, sometimes bad. 549 00:44:02,713 --> 00:44:07,272 The best thing is, therefore, that God is all-good. 550 00:44:07,273 --> 00:44:12,242 If we follow God, then we become good. 551 00:44:12,243 --> 00:44:19,082 If we follow God or God’s representative, then we also become good. 552 00:44:19,083 --> 00:44:22,352 Because God is always good. 553 00:44:22,353 --> 00:44:28,073 A good cannot give you bad direction. 554 00:44:28,074 --> 00:44:31,891 Therefore devotional service… It is incumbent, 555 00:44:31,892 --> 00:44:38,813 that everyone should be followers. 556 00:44:38,814 --> 00:44:45,613 Everyone should be followers of the instruction of God. 557 00:44:45,614 --> 00:44:47,453 That is devotional service. 558 00:44:47,454 --> 00:44:53,813 Nobody should be deviated from the service of the Lord. 559 00:44:53,814 --> 00:44:56,993 The whole Bhagavad-gītā… This is the beginning, 560 00:44:56,994 --> 00:45:06,491 and at the end, the Lord will instruct, I mean to say, Arjuna, that, 561 00:45:06,492 --> 00:45:10,883 sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja [Bg. 18.66]: 562 00:45:10,884 --> 00:45:13,518 “You just surrender unto Me”; 563 00:45:13,519 --> 00:45:17,653 and ahaṁ tvāṁ sarva-pāpebhyo mokṣayiṣyāmi mā śucaḥ [Bg 18.66]: 564 00:45:17,654 --> 00:45:26,023 “And I shall protect you, give you protection from all reactions of sinful life.” 565 00:45:26,024 --> 00:45:29,163 The best thing is, if we want to be all-good, 566 00:45:29,164 --> 00:45:34,013 then we have to follow the instruction of all-good. 567 00:45:34,014 --> 00:45:37,413 We have to mold our life in such a way, 568 00:45:37,414 --> 00:45:49,573 that what is advised by the all-good… That will make our life perfect. 569 00:45:49,574 --> 00:45:49,575 Subtitles by Gopī Kāntā Dāsa, Causelessmercy.com Sponsored by Jitarati Dāsa & Pratyatoṣa Dāsa