0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:16,209 Bg 16-07 HYD 1976-12-14 The Path of No 1 00:00:16,210 --> 00:00:19,970 ANNOUNCER: The following is a class on the Bhagavad-gītā As Is Is 2 00:00:19,971 --> 00:00:23,619 16th chapter, text number 7, 3 00:00:23,620 --> 00:00:29,499 given by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, 4 00:00:29,500 --> 00:00:46,849 recorded on the 14th of December 1976, in Hyderabad, India. 5 00:00:46,850 --> 00:00:47,819 PRABHUPĀDA: So, 6 00:00:47,820 --> 00:01:00,619 we were discussing yesterday about the demons or nondevotees. 7 00:01:00,620 --> 00:01:03,899 Demons means nondevotee. 8 00:01:03,900 --> 00:01:05,559 That I have explained. 9 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:13,019 Devatā means demigods, and demons… 10 00:01:13,020 --> 00:01:22,990 So demons, they do not know which way they have to live their life. 11 00:01:22,991 --> 00:01:24,500 That they do not know. 12 00:01:24,501 --> 00:01:29,140 pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca janā na vidur āsurāḥ 13 00:01:29,141 --> 00:01:34,960 na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate [Bg. 16.7] 14 00:01:34,961 --> 00:01:39,620 These are the first qualification of the demons, 15 00:01:39,621 --> 00:01:47,000 that they do not know which way one has to make progress. 16 00:01:47,001 --> 00:01:50,000 That they do not know. 17 00:01:50,001 --> 00:01:55,670 This is the defect of the modern civilization. 18 00:01:55,671 --> 00:02:04,983 They have universities, educational institution and advancement of knowledge, 19 00:02:04,984 --> 00:02:14,013 so on, so on; but ask them what is the aim of life, why education is being imparted, 20 00:02:14,014 --> 00:02:17,163 what is the purpose; these are… They do not know. 21 00:02:17,164 --> 00:02:17,974 Do they know? 22 00:02:17,975 --> 00:02:18,744 HAṀSADŪTA: No. 23 00:02:18,745 --> 00:02:26,784 They simply know how to eat, how to sleep, 24 00:02:26,785 --> 00:02:31,924 how to have sex, and how to defend. 25 00:02:31,925 --> 00:02:36,704 For this purpose they are giving education. 26 00:02:36,705 --> 00:02:42,514 That is… Does it require any education, how to eat? 27 00:02:42,515 --> 00:02:46,654 Everyone, even a child, he knows. 28 00:02:46,655 --> 00:02:50,024 You give him something eatable; immediately takes and he knows 29 00:02:50,025 --> 00:02:54,814 it is to be put here, not here, not there. 30 00:02:54,815 --> 00:02:56,904 Natural. 31 00:02:56,905 --> 00:03:03,394 You don’t require any education for these things, primary, 32 00:03:03,395 --> 00:03:11,844 I mean to say, wants of the body, eating, sleeping, sex. 33 00:03:11,845 --> 00:03:17,424 It doesn’t require any high education, how to enjoy sex life. 34 00:03:17,425 --> 00:03:21,874 Everyone knows; even the cats and dogs, they know. 35 00:03:21,875 --> 00:03:24,964 Similarly eating, everyone knows. 36 00:03:24,965 --> 00:03:28,074 Sleeping, it doesn’t require 37 00:03:28,075 --> 00:03:33,625 that “You have to sleep in this way;” whenever you feel tired, there is sleep. 38 00:03:33,626 --> 00:03:41,125 But the asura-jana, they do not know what is the purpose of education. 39 00:03:41,126 --> 00:03:42,605 That they do not know. 40 00:03:42,606 --> 00:03:49,165 This is… This is beginning of asuras’ life, pravṛtti and nivṛtti. 41 00:03:49,166 --> 00:03:56,425 Pravṛtti means the, what is called, incentive 42 00:03:56,426 --> 00:04:05,725 which makes… There is a grain of sugar, and the ant knows there is a grain of sugar. 43 00:04:05,726 --> 00:04:08,195 He is running after it. 44 00:04:08,196 --> 00:04:09,825 That is pravṛtti. 45 00:04:09,826 --> 00:04:17,565 And nivṛtti means I have passed my life in this way, 46 00:04:17,566 --> 00:04:23,085 but it is not actually my progress of life. 47 00:04:23,086 --> 00:04:30,755 I should stop this way of life; I should go to the spiritual realization. 48 00:04:30,756 --> 00:04:35,215 That is nivṛtti-mārga. 49 00:04:35,216 --> 00:04:41,195 There are two ways, pravṛtti and nivṛtti. 50 00:04:41,196 --> 00:04:48,545 Pravṛtti means we are going to the dark, darkest region. 51 00:04:48,546 --> 00:04:52,615 adānta-gobhir viśatāṁ tamisram [SB 7.5.30] 52 00:04:52,616 --> 00:05:00,075 Because we cannot control our senses, adānta… Adānta means uncontrolled, 53 00:05:00,076 --> 00:05:03,985 and go, go means senses. 54 00:05:03,986 --> 00:05:08,655 adānta-gobhir viśatāṁ tamisram [SB 7.5.30] 55 00:05:08,656 --> 00:05:19,066 Just like we see varieties of life, so there is life also in the hell, tamisra. 56 00:05:19,067 --> 00:05:30,996 So either you go to the hellish condition of life or you go to the path of liberation, 57 00:05:30,997 --> 00:05:34,216 both ways are open to you. 58 00:05:34,217 --> 00:05:40,406 So if you go to the hellish condition of life, that is called pravṛtti-mārga, 59 00:05:40,407 --> 00:05:47,646 and if you go towards the path of liberation, that is nivṛtti-mārga. 60 00:05:47,647 --> 00:05:55,106 Our, this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is training of nivṛtti-mārga, 61 00:05:55,107 --> 00:05:58,796 the basic principles, so many no’s. 62 00:05:58,797 --> 00:06:02,096 No means nivṛtti. 63 00:06:02,097 --> 00:06:10,296 No illicit sex, no meat-eating, no gambling, no intoxication. 64 00:06:10,297 --> 00:06:15,756 So this is the no; “no” path. 65 00:06:15,757 --> 00:06:18,596 So that they do not know. 66 00:06:18,597 --> 00:06:25,336 When we say so many no’s they think it is brainwash. 67 00:06:25,337 --> 00:06:26,776 Not brainwash. 68 00:06:26,777 --> 00:06:28,936 It is actual. 69 00:06:28,937 --> 00:06:41,456 If you want to develop your spiritual life, then you have to stop so many nuisance. 70 00:06:41,457 --> 00:06:43,176 That is nivṛtti-mārga. 71 00:06:43,177 --> 00:06:45,206 The asuras, they do not know. 72 00:06:45,207 --> 00:06:49,126 Because they do not know, when nivṛtti-mārga, 73 00:06:49,127 --> 00:06:54,046 “no,” the path of “no” is recommended, they become angry. 74 00:06:54,047 --> 00:06:56,026 They become angry. 75 00:06:56,027 --> 00:07:05,297 Mūrkhāṇām upadeśo hi prakopāya na śāntaye payaḥ-pānaṁ bhujaṅgānāṁ kevalaṁ viṣa-vardhanam [Cāṇakya Paṇḍita - Nīti Śāstra] 76 00:07:05,298 --> 00:07:08,487 Those who are rascals, fools, 77 00:07:08,488 --> 00:07:16,217 if you speak something valuable for his life he’ll not hear you. 78 00:07:16,218 --> 00:07:18,157 He’ll become angry. 79 00:07:18,158 --> 00:07:19,867 The example is given, 80 00:07:19,868 --> 00:07:24,347 payaḥ-pānaṁ bhujaṅgānāṁ kevalaṁ viṣa-vardhanam [Cāṇakya Paṇḍita - Nīti Śāstra] 81 00:07:24,348 --> 00:07:34,927 Just like if a snake, if you ask the snake that “I shall give you daily a cup of milk. 82 00:07:34,928 --> 00:07:40,807 Do not commit this harmful life, biting unnecessarily others. 83 00:07:40,808 --> 00:07:48,187 You come here, take a cup of milk and live peacefully,” that he will not be able. 84 00:07:48,188 --> 00:07:56,707 He… By drinking, by drinking that cup of milk, his poison will increase, 85 00:07:56,708 --> 00:08:02,507 and as soon as the poison is increased— it is also another itching sensation— 86 00:08:02,508 --> 00:08:04,447 he wants to bite. 87 00:08:04,448 --> 00:08:06,257 He’ll bite. 88 00:08:06,258 --> 00:08:08,047 So the result will be 89 00:08:08,048 --> 00:08:11,587 payaḥ-pānaṁ bhujaṅgānāṁ kevalaṁ viṣa-vardhanam [Cāṇakya Paṇḍita - Nīti Śāstra] 90 00:08:11,588 --> 00:08:19,267 The more they starve, that is good for them because the poison will not increase. 91 00:08:19,268 --> 00:08:22,967 The nature’s law is there. 92 00:08:22,968 --> 00:08:27,307 And as soon as one sees a snake, 93 00:08:27,308 --> 00:08:35,327 immediately everyone becomes alert to kill the snake. 94 00:08:35,328 --> 00:08:38,317 And by nature’s law… 95 00:08:38,318 --> 00:08:50,188 It is said, “Even a great saintly person, he does not lament when a snake is killed.” 96 00:08:50,189 --> 00:08:56,588 modeta sādhur api… sarpa… vṛścika-sarpa-hatyā [SB 7.9.14] 97 00:08:56,589 --> 00:08:59,328 Prahlāda Mahārāja said. 98 00:08:59,329 --> 00:09:05,508 When his father was killed and Nṛsiṁhadeva was still angry, 99 00:09:05,509 --> 00:09:09,131 so he pacified Lord Nṛsiṁha, 100 00:09:09,132 --> 00:09:19,011 “Sir, now you can give up your anger because nobody is unhappy 101 00:09:19,012 --> 00:09:25,470 on account of my father being killed,” means “[splice] I am also happy 102 00:09:25,471 --> 00:09:31,971 because my father was just like a snake and a scorpion. 103 00:09:31,972 --> 00:09:41,461 So even a great saintly person is happy when a scorpion or a snake is killed.” 104 00:09:41,462 --> 00:09:46,891 They are not happy if somebody is killed; even an ant is killed, 105 00:09:46,892 --> 00:09:49,671 a saintly person is unhappy. 106 00:09:49,672 --> 00:09:56,231 But a saintly person, when he sees that a snake is killed, he is happy. 107 00:09:56,232 --> 00:09:58,781 He is happy. 108 00:09:58,782 --> 00:10:09,461 So we should not follow the life of a snake, pravṛtti-mārga. 109 00:10:09,462 --> 00:10:13,691 Human life is meant for nivṛtti-mārga. 110 00:10:13,692 --> 00:10:17,301 We have got so many bad habits. 111 00:10:17,302 --> 00:10:23,492 To give up these bad habits, that is human life. 112 00:10:23,493 --> 00:10:29,232 If we cannot do that, then we are not making any spiritual progress of life. 113 00:10:29,233 --> 00:10:36,262 Spiritual progress… So long you will have a little desire 114 00:10:36,263 --> 00:10:42,462 for committing sinful life for your sense gratification, 115 00:10:42,463 --> 00:10:46,552 you will have to accept a next body. 116 00:10:46,553 --> 00:10:53,342 And as soon as you accept a material body, then you will suffer. 117 00:10:53,343 --> 00:10:55,272 Yena. 118 00:10:55,273 --> 00:10:59,242 It is said that 119 00:10:59,243 --> 00:11:02,622 nūnaṁ pramattaḥ kurute vikarma [SB 5.5.4] 120 00:11:02,623 --> 00:11:05,552 These rascals, they are mad. 121 00:11:05,553 --> 00:11:08,912 They are committing sinful life 122 00:11:08,913 --> 00:11:14,852 simply for sense gratification; there is no need of committing sinful life 123 00:11:14,853 --> 00:11:19,052 but for sense gratification they are doing that. 124 00:11:19,053 --> 00:11:20,942 So Ṛṣabhadeva says, 125 00:11:20,943 --> 00:11:25,512 “It is not good because for sense gratification 126 00:11:25,513 --> 00:11:30,432 you have got already this body, and you know, experiencing, 127 00:11:30,433 --> 00:11:38,552 that you are suffering threefold miseries, and again you are committing something 128 00:11:38,553 --> 00:11:44,322 which will oblige you to accept another body; this is not good. 129 00:11:44,323 --> 00:11:50,983 This is not good;” we should do in such a way that we may not accept again 130 00:11:50,984 --> 00:11:54,223 this material body. 131 00:11:54,224 --> 00:11:58,163 That will save us from all suffering. 132 00:11:58,164 --> 00:12:03,573 Material body means it is given to you for your suffering. 133 00:12:03,574 --> 00:12:05,593 But that they do not know. 134 00:12:05,594 --> 00:12:07,513 They think, “I am enjoying.” 135 00:12:07,514 --> 00:12:12,513 Eating, sleeping, mating—in any body you will have these facilities. 136 00:12:12,514 --> 00:12:15,433 viṣayaḥ khalu sarvataḥ syāt [SB 11.9.29] 137 00:12:15,434 --> 00:12:21,103 Even you become a dog or you become a hog or you become a man 138 00:12:21,104 --> 00:12:27,953 or you become a demigod, these four facilities you will get everywhere, 139 00:12:27,954 --> 00:12:36,353 eating facility, sleeping facility, sex facilities and defense facility; you will get. 140 00:12:36,354 --> 00:12:39,973 viṣayaḥ khalu sarvataḥ syāt [SB 11.9.29] 141 00:12:39,974 --> 00:12:48,503 And the human form of life, these facilities should be minimized, denied. 142 00:12:48,504 --> 00:12:53,993 Not only minimized, no meat-eating, no illicit sex. 143 00:12:53,994 --> 00:12:55,773 That is nivṛtti-mārga. 144 00:12:55,774 --> 00:12:58,813 But the asuras, they do not know. 145 00:12:58,814 --> 00:13:03,393 pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttim; [Bg. 16.7] that this life is meant for nivṛtti-mārga, 146 00:13:03,394 --> 00:13:04,893 they do not know. 147 00:13:04,894 --> 00:13:09,483 When you say, “Don’t do this,” they think otherwise. 148 00:13:09,484 --> 00:13:13,904 payaḥ-pānaṁ bhujaṅgānāṁ kevalaṁ viṣa-vardhanam [Hitopadeśa 3.4] 149 00:13:13,905 --> 00:13:18,274 na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāraḥ [Bg. 16.7] 150 00:13:18,275 --> 00:13:22,824 And why they become addicted to sense gratification? 151 00:13:22,825 --> 00:13:26,854 Because they are not clean, śaucam. 152 00:13:26,855 --> 00:13:30,434 Śauca is the qualification of brāhmaṇa. 153 00:13:30,435 --> 00:13:40,504 We are getting sacred thread but we are neglecting how to remain śaucam, śuci. 154 00:13:40,505 --> 00:13:45,024 śucīnāṁ śrīmatāṁ gehe yoga-bhraṣṭo ’bhijāyate [Bg. 6.31] 155 00:13:45,025 --> 00:13:48,834 Śuci means first-class brāhmaṇa. 156 00:13:48,835 --> 00:13:55,714 So we are accepting sacred thread to become first-class brāhmaṇa, śuci, 157 00:13:55,715 --> 00:14:00,474 but we do not know, after eating, we have to wash our hand. 158 00:14:00,475 --> 00:14:05,374 We are taking the handkerchief and finished. 159 00:14:05,375 --> 00:14:10,124 So this kind of brāhmaṇa, what they will do? 160 00:14:10,125 --> 00:14:15,094 That is not even a civilized man. 161 00:14:15,095 --> 00:14:21,774 So you should be very, very careful how to follow the rules and regulation. 162 00:14:21,775 --> 00:14:23,774 That is nivṛtti-mārga. 163 00:14:23,775 --> 00:14:26,914 If we still remain in pravṛtti-mārga, 164 00:14:26,915 --> 00:14:32,994 then we will not be able to make any advance in spiritual life. 165 00:14:32,995 --> 00:14:41,824 And if we do not make advance in spiritual life, then again and again, śarīra. 166 00:14:41,825 --> 00:14:46,504 tathā dehāntara-prāptir dhīras tatra na muhyati [Bg. 2.13] 167 00:14:46,505 --> 00:14:50,945 Everyone is suffering on account of this body, 168 00:14:50,946 --> 00:14:55,885 and this human body is meant for ending this suffering. 169 00:14:55,886 --> 00:14:58,535 That should be the aim of life. 170 00:14:58,536 --> 00:15:05,615 But those who are asuras, they do not know how to end this life of suffering 171 00:15:05,616 --> 00:15:10,165 and accept the life of ānandamayo ’bhyāsāt, [Vedānta-sūtra 1.1.12] 172 00:15:10,166 --> 00:15:14,945 simply ānanda in Vaikuṇṭha, in Goloka Vṛndāvana. 173 00:15:14,946 --> 00:15:20,315 Kṛṣṇa, to live with Him as His associate, you have no information. 174 00:15:20,316 --> 00:15:29,115 We are demons, and therefore we take pleasure in so-called material activities. 175 00:15:29,116 --> 00:15:31,275 And that means we are doomed. 176 00:15:31,276 --> 00:15:36,745 We should stop this nonsense and take to the principles of nivṛtti-mārga. 177 00:15:36,746 --> 00:15:39,065 Then our life will be success. 178 00:15:39,066 --> 00:15:47,960 Thank you very much. 179 00:15:47,961 --> 00:15:47,962 Subtitles by Gopī Kāntā Dāsa, Causelessmercy.com