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Iso 00 LA 1970-05-02 Matter Has No Power
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ANNOUNCER: The following is
a class on the Śrī Īśopaniṣad,
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given by His Divine Grace
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
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recorded on the 2nd of May
1970, in Los Angeles, California.
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PRABHUPĀDA and devotees:
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oṁ pūrṇam adaḥ pūrṇam idaṁ
pūrṇāt pūrṇam udacyate
[Īśo Invocation]
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pūrṇasya pūrṇam ādāya
pūrṇam evāvaśiṣyate
[Īśo Invocation]
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īśāvāsyam idam sarvaṁ
yat kiṣca jagatyāṁ jagat
[Īśo mantra 1]
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tena tyaktena bhuñjīthā
mā gṛdhaḥ kasya svid dhanam
[Īśo mantra 1]
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kurvann eveha karmāṇi
jijīviṣec chataṁ samāḥ
[Īśo mantra 2]
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evaṁ tvayi nānyatheto 'sti
na karma lipyate nare
[Īśo mantra 2]
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asuryā nāma te lokā
andhena tamasāvṛtāḥ
[Īśo mantra 3]
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tāṁs te pretyābhigacchanti
ye ke cātma-hano janāḥ
[Īśo mantra 3]
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anejad ekaṁ manaso javīyo
nainad devā āpnuvan pūrvam arṣat
[Īśo mantra 4]
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tad dhāvato 'nyān atyeti tiṣṭhat
tasminn apo mātariśvā dadhāti
[Īśo mantra 4]
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tad ejati tan naijati
tad dūre tad v antike
[Īśo mantra 5]
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tad antar asya sarvasya
tad u sarvasyāsya bāhyataḥ
[Īśo mantra 5]
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yas tu sarvāṇi bhūtāny
ātmany evānupaśyati
[Īśo mantra 6]
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sarva-bhūteṣu cātmānaṁ
tato na vijugupsate
[Īśo mantra 6]
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yasmin sarvāṇi bhūtāny
ātmaivābhūd vijānataḥ
[Īśo mantra 7]
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tatra ko mohaḥ kaḥ śoka
ekatvam anupaśyataḥ
[Īśo mantra 7]
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sa paryagāc chukram akāyam avraṇam
asnāviram śuddham apāpa-viddham
[Īśo mantra 8]
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kavir manīṣī paribhūḥ svayambhūr
yāthātathyato 'rthān vyadadhāc chāśvatībhyaḥ samābhyaḥ
[Īśo mantra 8]
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andhaṁ tamaḥ praviśanti
ye 'vidyām upāsate
[Īśo mantra 9]
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tato bhūya iva te tamo
ya u vidyāyām ratāḥ
[Īśo mantra 9]
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anyad evāhur vidyayā-
nyad āhur avidyayā
[Īśo mantra 10]
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iti śuśruma dhīrāṇāṁ
ye nas tad vicacakṣire
[Īśo mantra 10]
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vidyāṁ cāvidyāṁ ca yas
tad vedobhayaṁ saha
[Īśo mantra 11]
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avidyayā mṛtyuṁ tīrtvā
vidyayāmṛtam aśnute
[Īśo mantra 11]
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andhaṁ tamaḥ praviśanti
ye 'sambhūtim upāsate
[Īśo mantra 12]
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tato bhūya iva te tamo ya u sambhūtyām
ratāḥ [splice] [Īśo mantra 12]
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PRABHUPĀDA: Hare Kṛṣṇa.
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Read.
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GARGAMUNI: Fourteen.
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- PRABHUPĀDA: Yes.
- On the last sentence.
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“This point is confirmed by the
Bhagavad-gītā in the Seventh Chapter,
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where parā and aparā
prakṛti are discussed.
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The elements of nature—earth, fire, water,
air, sky, mind, intelligence and ego—
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all belong to the
inferior, or material,
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energy of the Lord,
whereas the living being,
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the organic energy, is the superior
energy, the parā prakṛti of the Lord.
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Both the prakṛtis, or energies,
are emanations from the Lord,
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and ultimately He is the controller
of everything that exists.
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There is nothing in the universe
which does not belong either to the
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parā or aparā prakṛti, and
therefore everything is under the…”
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“…proprietary right of
the Supreme Being.”
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So here, in the Īśopaniṣad also,
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the same thing is explained, that
īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam [Īśo Invocation]
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Whatever we are seeing,
animate or inanimate,
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there is control of
the Supreme Lord.
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The same thing is explained
in the Bhagavad-gītā,
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that His energies are working.
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In the Viṣṇu Purāṇa it is said,
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just like fire staying in one place
distributes its heat and light…
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eka-deśa-sthitasyāgner
jyotsnā vistāriṇī yathā
[Viṣṇu Purāṇa 1.22.56]
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Agni, agni means fire.
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Fire is… Just like the sun.
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Sun is also fire, very
high temperature fire.
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So it is staying in one place,
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but it is distributing its light
and heat all over the universe.
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eka-deśa-sthitasyāgner
yathā jyotsnā vistāriṇī
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tathaiva…
parasya brahmaṇaḥ śaktiḥ
[Viṣṇu Purāṇa (1.22.56)]
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Similarly, two energies from the
Supreme Lord is being distributed
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all over the creation.
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One kind of energy is
called material energy,
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and the other kind of energy
is called the spiritual energy.
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So in this world, in this
temporary material world,
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the spiritual energy is
there; that is prominent.
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But it is covered by
the material energy.
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Just like there is sunshine—
sunshine; nobody can check—
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but it is sometimes
covered by cloud.
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When it is covered by the
cloud, the sunshine is dim.
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The more it is covered… Just
like in the Western countries,
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in the northern countries,
it is very much covered.
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Practically, there is no sunshine.
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In London I saw the
sunshine is very rare.
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At ten o’clock it is
early in the morning,
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and at half past
three, again evening,
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so long I was there.
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So this covering of the
sunshine is temporary.
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Actually, sunshine
cannot be covered.
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The whole sunshine cannot be
covered; that is not possible.
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An insignificant
portion of the sunshine
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may be covered, or is covered
sometimes by the cloud.
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Similarly, this material world is an
insignificant portion of the spiritual world,
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covered by this material
energy; that’s all.
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And what is the position
of material energy?
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The material energy is also another
form of the spiritual energy.
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That means absence of spiritual
activity, that is material.
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That’s all.
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Just like what is this cloud?
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This cloud is another
transformation of the sunshine.
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The sunshine evaporates water from
the sea, and the cloud is formed.
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Therefore sunshine is
the cause of the cloud.
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Similarly, this material energy is
also caused by the Supreme Lord
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because it is His energy.
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So two energies are working
in this material world:
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the spiritual energy and
the material energy.
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The material energy means these
eight kinds of material elements.
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bhūmir āpo ’nalo vāyuḥ:
[Bg. 7.4]
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earth, water, fire, air, sky,
mind, intelligence, and ego.
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These are all material.
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And similarly, finer, finer, finer,
finer, and grosser, grosser, grosser.
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Just like water is finer than the earth,
then fire is finer than the water,
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then air is finer than the fire, then
sky, or ether, is finer than the air.
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Similarly, intelligence is finer than the
ether, or mind is finer than the ether.
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The mind… You know, I have given
several times example: the speed of mind.
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Many thousands of miles
within a second you can go.
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So the finer it
becomes, it is powerful.
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Similarly, ultimately, when you
come to the spiritual part, finer,
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from which everything is
emanating, oh, that is very powerful.
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That spiritual energy.
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That is given in the Bhagavad-gītā.
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What is that spiritual energy?
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That spiritual energy
is this living entity.
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apareyam itas tu viddhi
me prakṛtiṁ parā
[Bg. 7.5]
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Kṛṣṇa says, “These
are material energies.
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And beyond this there is
another, spiritual energy.”
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apareyam; aparā means inferior.
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apareyam.
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“All these described material
elements, they are inferior energy.
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And beyond this there is a
superior energy, My dear Arjuna.”
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What is that?
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jīva-bhūta mahā-bāho:
[Bg. 7.5]
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“These living entities.”
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They are also energy.
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We living entities, we are also
energy, but superior energy.
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How superior?
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Because,
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yayedaṁ dhāryate jagat
[Bg. 7.5]
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The superior energy is
controlling the inferior energy.
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Matter has no power.
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The big airplane, nice machine, is flying
in the sky, made of material things.
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But unless the spiritual energy,
pilot, is there, it is useless.
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It is useless.
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Thousands of years the jet
plane will stand on the airport;
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it will not be flying unless the small
particle spiritual energy, that pilot,
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comes and touches it.
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So what is the difficulty
to understand God?
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So plain thing, that if
this huge machine…
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There are so many
huge machineries,
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they cannot move without the
touch of the spiritual energy,
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a human being or a living being.
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How can you expect that this whole
material energy is working out of
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automatically or
without any control?
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How you can put your
arguments in that way?
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That is not possible.
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Therefore less
intelligent class of men,
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they cannot understand
how this material energy
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is being controlled
by the Supreme Lord.
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The godless men,
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those who are of opinions that this
material energy is working automatically,
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they are fools.
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That is the explanation
of Īśopaniṣad.
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īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam
[Īśo Invocation]
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Everything is being controlled by the
Supreme Personality of Godhead.
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Therefore, because He is
the supreme controller,
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therefore He is the
supreme proprietor.
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We can see in our
practical experience,
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the man who controls
the whole establishment,
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he is proprietor, or the president.
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Similarly, if it is being controlled by
some superior person, then He is God.
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That is confirmed in
the Bhagavad-gītā:
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mayādhyakṣeṇa prakṛtiḥ
sūyate sa-carācaram
[Bg. 9.10]
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Kṛṣṇa says, “Under My superintendence,
this material energy is working,
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and all these animate and inanimate
objects are being produced.”
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mayādhyakṣeṇa prakṛtiḥ
sūyate sa-carācaram
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hetunanena kaunteya
jagad viparivartate
[Bg. 9.10]
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So unless there is some
living force, energy,
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behind any material
manifestation, it cannot work.
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If we simply understand this fact,
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that everywhere there is
control of the Supreme Lord,
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that is Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
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Kṛṣṇa consciousness means to
understand things as it is; that’s all.
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Thank you very much.
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