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MW CHI 1975-07-05 The Rarest Books in the World
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ANNOUNCER: The following is
a morning walk conversation
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with His Divine Grace
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
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recorded on the 5th of July
1975, in Chicago, Illinois.
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PRABHUPĀDA: [splice]
…māyāra vaibhava
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this material advancement
the advancement of māyā.
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Big, big building, nice
road, nice motor car, nice…
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Surely it is material
advancement, admitted.
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But this advancement is
advancement of the illusory energy.
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So what is the wrong there?
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Suppose…
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The wrong is there that this
material world is temporary.
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We have come here temporarily,
twenty-five years, fifty years
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at most, hundred years.
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So we are already illusioned and
we become more illusioned.
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Then we forget our real business.
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Mūḍha, we remain mūḍha.
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Supposing if there is next birth,
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so who is very much anxious
to know what is our next birth?
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Nobody is.
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Blindly going on.
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Māyāra vaibhava. [break]
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…very nice church,
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but understand what for this church is,
what is God, what is God consciousness.
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Just cultivate this knowledge.
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“No, big church finished.”
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Live nice building, nice happy
life, but don’t forget Kṛṣṇa.
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Then what is the use of this life?
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And if you forget Kṛṣṇa,
then the result will be crime,
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and you will be facing with problems,
“Why and now what to do?”
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So many problems will be there.
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So the problems cannot be solved simply
by possessing big, big buildings. [splice]
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There are so many
churches. [splice]
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JAYATĪRTHA: All over America
there are very expensive churches.
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In India you do not
see so many temples.
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I was surprised when
I went there first.
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Because you do not see very
many big, gorgeous, temples.
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But here everywhere there
are big gorgeous churches.
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Oh, no, India, in South India…
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BRAHMĀNANDA:
South India is full.
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Oh, South India.
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- North India not.
- Yes.
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You have not seen
Jagannātha temple?
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No. [splice]
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In Vṛndāvana also, that
Raṅganātha temple?
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Yes.
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There are some nice
temples in the north.
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In south, many.
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Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya Prabhu…
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These are all university
house or private?
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Some university and
some private. [splice]
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All very nice house.
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Yes.
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Let them, every house, small
temple, perform kīrtana.
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Then this will be all success.
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Do not cook meat.
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Nice prasādam.
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Everything can be utilized
for better purpose.
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Now, in the morning,
they are sleeping.
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nidrāya hriyate naktaṁ
vyavayena ca vā vayaḥ
[SB 2.1.3]
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At night either sleeping
or sex, and daytime,
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divā carthehaya rājan
kutumba-bharaṇena vā
[SB 2.1.3]
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Daytime, “Where is money?
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Where is money?”
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Oh, seventy miles’ speed.
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“Go there.
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There is some money.”
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All right, take money.
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Then what is your next business?
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kutumba-bharaṇena vā
[SB 2.1.3]
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Just to purchase for the
family, finish money.
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Again tomorrow.
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“But where is the business
of your spiritual life?”
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“No time.
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What can we do?
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Night we are busy in this
way, and day we are busy.
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Where is the time?
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Don’t bother us.” [splice]
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…try to make them devotees,
they will not become?
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Not very easily.
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bhogaiśvarya-prasaktānāṁ
tayāpahṛta-cetasām
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vyavasāyātmikā buddhiḥ
na vidhīyate
[Bg. 2.44]
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Therefore too much attachment
for material enjoyment,
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is disqualification for spiritual life.
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So the western world is trained up
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for being too much attached
to material enjoyment.
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Therefore lagging
behind in spiritual life.
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Vedic civilization is not to encourage
too much for material enjoyment.
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Minimize.
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That is Indian civilization.
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They, if they had money they used to
spend for constructing big temple,
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not for residential house.
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Maybe the king only
had a big palace.
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Common men, they didn’t care for
big palace, the palatial building.
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Common man would be
very glad to live in a cottage,
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and a small garden for growing
vegetables, fruits, small lake, that’s all.
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Not wasting time for big,
big buildings, big, big…
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- What is called, amenities?
- Amenities. [break]
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It is good you have done this,
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but make this Kṛṣṇa consciousness
also one of the paraphernalia.
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Then it is very nice.
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But they are not inclined.
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Hare Kṛṣṇa [break] [splice]
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…brāhmaṇas are
sensing danger because,
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they see that these Europeans
are worshiping Deity, temple.
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Then gradually there will be
no caste brāhmaṇa. [break]
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TAMĀLA KṚṢṆA: …Mahāprabhu also
had difficulty with the caste brāhmaṇas?
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Oh, yes.
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They complained to the magistrate that
“What kind of religion He is introducing?
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It is not our Hindu religion.
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So chastise Him.” [break]
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…report of the brāhmaṇas, the
police came and broke these drums.
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It was not the fault of
the Mohammedans.
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The brāhmaṇas lodged complaint
against Caitanya Mahāprabhu.
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So he has to take step.
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They said, “It is not Hindu religion.
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They are disturbing God
by chanting so loudly.
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Now their God is sleeping
and they are disturbing,
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‘Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa.’
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So stop this.”
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So what can he do?
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After all, he is public servant.
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Therefore he took steps. [break]
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GHANAŚYĀMA: I’ve just come back
from England, myself and another boy
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who were doing library work there.
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We went there after
India, the festival.
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And so many very important
schools all around the world,
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that are known all around the
world are taking your books.
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Our last day was one of
our most amazing days.
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We went to the Indian office
library, the British government.
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Because they have colonized India,
they have so many books on India.
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This was the largest
library like that in Europe.
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And the librarian, he looked
at our books and he says,
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“Yes, we should have all of these.”
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So right on the spot he ordered
standing orders, one copy of every book.
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That same day—this was
just three days ago,
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two days ago—we
went to the [splice]
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…biggest book store in the world.
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They’re so big, that
they have three blocks.
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They take up sort
of like three blocks.
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And they have three
levels, three floors.
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So we went to see the manager, the
man who owns the whole book store.
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And he says, “Well, I only
deal with rare books.”
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We said, “Well, this is why
we’ve come to see you.”
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And he says, “I want three
copies of every book.”
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Very good.
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So they have ordered?
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Yes.
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Very good.
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Just in a matter of four,
about seven to eight weeks,
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over a hundred professors [indistinct]
have taken your books there.
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Oh.
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Standing order?
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No, about twelve have taken standing,
about ten have taken standing orders,
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but others have taken books
to use for their courses,
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or for their own reading and
for their own edification.
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Big schools like
Cambridge, Oxford,
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as soon as they see the
books, they really want them.
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This is the rarest book.
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Not only rare, but rarest.
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There is no book throughout the
whole world, such book. [break]
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…professor, he was reading
your Bhagavad-gītā,
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it was on his desk when
I came into his office.
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Ācchā.
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Yeah.
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He says, “Oh, yes, I know
the Bhaktivedanta books.
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I have just got this book
from one of my colleagues.”
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And he says, I showed
him the books.
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He bought, he wanted
the standing order.
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He teaches Sanskrit and Indian
religions and Indian philosophy.
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And he said, “Well, there’s
one book I was just reading.
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Bhaktivedanta, he mentions
it, the Nectar of Devotion.”
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He says that “You
didn’t show me that.
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Do you have that one?”
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So I brought the books
back to him that same day.
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And when I brought them, his
students, they were in class,
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and they came out of the class and they
started looking at the books themselves.
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And they really wanted to be
showed they could have a chance
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to read them in their course.
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They were really happy
that he was buying them.
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They said, “Oh, these are
Kṛṣṇa consciousness books.
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We’ve read some of these before.
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These are really
nice.” [break] [splice]
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…greater enthusiasm you go
on with book distribution.
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They will be benefited, and
distributors also will be benefited.
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Kṛṣṇa says,
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ya idaṁ paramaṁ guhyaṁ
mad-bhakteṣv abhidhāsyati
[Bg 18.68]
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na ca tasmān manuṣyeṣu
kaścin me priya-kṛttamaḥ
[Bg. 18.69]
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If you want to become quickly recognized
by Kṛṣṇa, then make propaganda,
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this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement.
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And once recognized by Kṛṣṇa,
then you're going back to home,
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back to Godhead,
guaranteed. [break] [splice]
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Sometimes we have heard that ekādaśī is
a inauspicious alignment of the planets
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and therefore one has to counteract
this inauspiciousness by more chanting.
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No, no.
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It is the most auspicious.
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And chanting is more
effective. [break]
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I remember you were instructing
once that all of your initiated disciples
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- should chant twenty-five rounds…
- Minimum.
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Minimum on this day.
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Is that a rule that we should
all follow in our temples?
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- We are sixteen rounds.
- No, I mean on ekādaśī.
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Oh yes.
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Ekādaśī, simply you should chant.
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No other business.
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Nirjala.
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No preaching work?
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Should they go out for preaching?
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No, those who are
preaching, not for them.
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Those who are sitting
idle, or they… [break]
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…has no other regulation,
simply preaching.
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A preacher is so exalted.
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He hasn’t got to
follow any regulation.
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But don’t take it.
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And actually if one is
busy in preaching work,
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that is first-class. [break]
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…not my manufactured word,
my Guru Mahārāja, that the…
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That Mādhava Mahārāja, when he was
a brahmacārī, his name was Hayagrīva.
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So he was to go somewhere.
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So but he was sick.
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Guru Mahārāja was informed that
he was sick and “Today is ekādaśī.
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He cannot take his regular meals.”
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So Guru Mahārāja said, “No.
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Let him take immediately
meals and go.”
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REVATĪNANDANA: For
preaching… [break]
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…Mahārāja would sacrifice
everything for preaching.
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Oh yes. [break]
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He was not pleased
with Bon Mahārāja,
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He could not do anything. [break]
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…most pleased with
you, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
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We, we must be sure of that.
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Unless he is pleased,
what I am worth?
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It is due to his pleasure.
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Otherwise what I am worth?
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Everyone says, “You
have done wonderful.”
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What can I do wonderful?
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It is by his pleasure it is going on.
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…prasādād bhagavat-prasādaḥ
[Śrī Gurv-aṣṭaka 8]
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