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MW GEN 1974-06-06 One Machine Makes 100 Men Unemployed
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ANNOUNCER: Next is a
morning walk conversation
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with His Divine Grace
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
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recorded on June 6th, 1974,
in Geneva, Switzerland.
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PRABHUPĀDA: …is Geneva
very many churches?
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GURU GAURĀṄGA: Many
churches in Geneva?
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- No.
- No.
- Not so many.
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That means godless.
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Eh?
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- Yes.
- Yes.
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When I first came to America,
Butler, in Pennsylvania,
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that is small county, but at least
one dozen churches I found.
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I very much appreciated,
that the people are not…
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And they’re going
regularly, churches.
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I was invited in many churches.
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I was…
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- YOGEŚVARA: To lecture?
- Yes.
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The… The girl that…
My friend’s son’s wife…
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He’s Indian.
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He has married an English girl.
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So I was guest at his house.
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- So that girl, Sally… Selly or Sally?
- Sally.
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She was arranging
so many meetings.
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She was very intelligent girl.
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So churches, many churches, she…
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Some of the churches
purchased my books.
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Recently, one of our saṅkīrtana
parties went to Butler, Pennsylvania,
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and uh, one of the devotees
met a… priest on the street.
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He said: “Oh, yes, I remember
your spiritual master.
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He was here.”
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So I was giving lectures;
they have churches;
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That means God
consciousness is there.
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I never criticized
church, mosque, never.
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Because whatever it may be, at
least there is God consciousness.
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So they’re good.
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In details…
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But when they disobey…
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I… I criticize only these rascals, [when
they] disobey the commandments.
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Otherwise, we have no…
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We don’t criticize.
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- We’re not sectarian.
- Eh?
- We’re not sectarian.
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Why?
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God is one.
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Why we shall be sectarian?
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According to his
circumstances, he is doing.
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And that prayer is also
bhakti, offering prayer.
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śravaṇaṁ kīrtanaṁ viṣṇoḥ
smaraṇaṁ pāda-sevanaṁ
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…vandanam…
[SB 7.5.23]
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This vandana is prayer.
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So that is bhakti, one
of the items of bhakti.
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Everyone needs to be encouraged.
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Eh?
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Everyone needs to be encouraged
in their God consciousness.
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smaraṇaṁ pāda-sevanam
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arcanaṁ vandanaṁ dāsyaṁ
sakhyam ātma-nivedanam
[SB 7.5.23]
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bhaktiś cen nava-lakṣaṇā
[SB 7.5.24]
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Bhakti is demonstrated in
nine different symptoms.
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So vandanam, offering
prayers, that is bhakti.
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PUṢṬA−KṚṢṆA: Is it required for them to
have a spiritual master to guide them?
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Certainly.
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These rascals, the priests, they do
not guide them; they are also fallen.
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Otherwise, Christian
religion is very nice.
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If they follow.
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So many times they asked me.
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“Yes, if you follow your Christian
religion, you’ll be perfect.”
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Caitanya Mahāprabhu proved
devotional service from Koran.
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- Yes.
- The Khān Vaiṣṇavas.
- Yes.
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So it requires the devotee who can explain
from any godly literature about God.
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How rascal they are!
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“Jesus Christ ate fish.
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Therefore we shall maintain
big, big slaughterhouse.”
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Just see the argument.
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Then, in the Bengali,
mosa makta kanan [?].
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There was a mosquito, and one
is asking, “Bring a cannon.”
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“Bring a cannon.”
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Mosa makta kanan.
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Jesus Christ ate somewhere; there was
no food available to eat, might have.
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Accepting he ate, but does it mean that
you have to maintain slaughterhouse?
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Just see.
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And besides that, he
might have done anything.
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He’s powerful.
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He can eat.
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Therefore the other day I said,
“He can eat the whole world.”
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But you cannot imitate.
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You have to follow his instruction.
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That is Christianity. [splice]
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One, in Delhi, when our festival was
going on, we invited a big chemist.
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He admitted that “Our chemical advance,
scientific advancement is like this.”
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He explained very nicely.
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You were present?
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- Where?
- In Delhi?
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He said that a man who has
learned the art to, what is called,
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barking like dog, and people
will go to see, purchasing ticket,
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ten rupees, twenty rupees, how
the man is barking like a dog.
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And there are so many dogs
barking; they won’t see.
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This is our advancement.
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If a man has artificially learned how to
bark, they’ll go to see by paying fees.
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And the natural
barking, they don’t.
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So these rascals are like that.
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They’re trying to manufacture life.
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And so many life is coming
by nature’s process,
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millions and millions;
that is no credit.
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And he’s trying, utopian, he’ll create life by
chemical combination, he’s given all credit,
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Nobel Prize: “Oh, here is a man.”
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This is rascaldom.
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So what credit you’ll get.
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Suppose if you can manufacture a
man or an animal in the laboratory:
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Where is your credit?
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There are many millions and
millions are coming automatically.
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We are trying to give credit to Kṛṣṇa
who is making all this creation.
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There is one Englishman
named Aldous Huxley…
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- Yes.
- who wrote a book called
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Brave New World,
and in that book,
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he predicted something
that’s coming true now,
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that there would be a process
of biologically screening babies,
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so that men could be breeded like
animals, like they breed animals.
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So they would take one
strain of chromosomes,
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and breed a class of men who
would make perfect administrators,
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and then they would breed another class
of men that would be perfect śūdras,
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and they would breed another class of
men who would be perfect scientists.
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And that is already there.
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guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ
[Bg 4.13]
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In Vedic astrology, jāta-
karma, they will say that,
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“This child is a śūdra,
this child is a brāhmaṇa,
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this child is a kṣatriya.”
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By the birth, by the constellation
of the stars, it will be done.
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It is already being done.
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And in the medical laboratory,
the blood has been tested,
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brāhmaṇa, śūdra, vaiśya;
there is different blood.
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- Wow.
- Yes.
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The blood infusion.
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So if the, a different blood
is infused, it does not act.
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So one doctor, in India,
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he was permanently keeping
different bloods for different persons.
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So there is some meaning
in the caste system.
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But that is not…
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In a brāhmaṇa family, a
śūdra may also take birth.
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Śūdra blood.
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So to keep the blood brahminical,
therefore the reformatory system is there,
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garbhādhāna-saṁskāra
and all the saṁskāras.
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Before birth, they keep, to keep the
blood brahminical, there is ceremony.
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SATSVARŪPA: Yesterday you said
when one becomes initiated
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by a bona fide spiritual
master, his body changes.
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Yes.
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Even if he was mleccha, [he]
can become brāhmaṇa.
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Actually, the chemists also say
there are four types of blood,
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A, AB, O, or something like that.
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They give it four names.
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And according to Hindu system, the
marriage was taking place find…,
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examining the girl’s constitution
and the boy’s constitution
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so that there may
not be disruption.
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Everything was there.
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