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MW GEN 1974-06-06 One Machine Makes 100 Men Unemployed

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ANNOUNCER: Next is a
morning walk conversation

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with His Divine Grace
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,

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recorded on June 6th, 1974,
in Geneva, Switzerland.

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PRABHUPĀDA: …is Geneva
very many churches?

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GURU GAURĀṄGA: Many
churches in Geneva?

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- No.
- No.
- Not so many.

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That means godless.

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Eh?

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- Yes.
- Yes.

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When I first came to America,
Butler, in Pennsylvania,

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that is small county, but at least
one dozen churches I found.

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I very much appreciated,
that the people are not…

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And they’re going
regularly, churches.

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I was invited in many churches.

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I was…

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- YOGEŚVARA: To lecture?
- Yes.

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The… The girl that…
My friend’s son’s wife…

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He’s Indian.

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He has married an English girl.

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So I was guest at his house.

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- So that girl, Sally… Selly or Sally?
- Sally.

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She was arranging
so many meetings.

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She was very intelligent girl.

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So churches, many churches, she…

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Some of the churches
purchased my books.

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Recently, one of our <i>saṅkīrtana</i>
parties went to Butler, Pennsylvania,

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and uh, one of the devotees
met a… priest on the street.

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He said: “Oh, yes, I remember
your spiritual master.

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He was here.”

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So I was giving lectures;
they have churches;

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That means God
consciousness is there.

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I never criticized
church, mosque, never.

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Because whatever it may be, at
least there is God consciousness.

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So they’re good.

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In details…

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But when they disobey…

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I… I criticize only these rascals, [when
they] disobey the commandments.

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Otherwise, we have no…

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We don’t criticize.

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- We’re not sectarian.
- Eh?
- We’re not sectarian.

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Why?

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God is one.

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Why we shall be sectarian?

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According to his
circumstances, he is doing.

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And that prayer is also
<i>bhakti</i>, offering prayer.

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<i>śravaṇaṁ kīrtanaṁ viṣṇoḥ
smaraṇaṁ pāda-sevanaṁ</i>

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<i>…vandanam…</i>
[SB 7.5.23]

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This <i>vandana</i> is prayer.

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So that is <i>bhakti</i>, one
of the items of <i>bhakti</i>.

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Everyone needs to be encouraged.

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Eh?

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Everyone needs to be encouraged
in their God consciousness.

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<i>smaraṇaṁ pāda-sevanam</i>

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<i>arcanaṁ vandanaṁ dāsyaṁ
sakhyam ātma-nivedanam</i>
[SB 7.5.23]

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<i>bhaktiś cen nava-lakṣaṇā</i>
[SB 7.5.24]

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<i>Bhakti</i> is demonstrated in
nine different symptoms.

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So <i>vandanam</i>, offering
prayers, that is <i>bhakti</i>.

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PUṢṬA−KṚṢṆA: Is it required for them to
have a spiritual master to guide them?

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Certainly.

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These rascals, the priests, they do
not guide them; they are also fallen.

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Otherwise, Christian
religion is very nice.

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If they follow.

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So many times they asked me.

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“Yes, if you follow your Christian
religion, you’ll be perfect.”

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Caitanya Mahāprabhu proved
devotional service from Koran.

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- Yes.
- The Khān Vaiṣṇavas.
- Yes.

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So it requires the devotee who can explain
from any godly literature about God.

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How rascal they are!

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“Jesus Christ ate fish.

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Therefore we shall maintain
big, big slaughterhouse.”

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Just see the argument.

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Then, in the Bengali,
<i>mosa makta kanan</i> [?].

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There was a mosquito, and one
is asking, “Bring a cannon.”

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“Bring a cannon.”

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<i>Mosa makta kanan</i>.

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Jesus Christ ate somewhere; there was
no food available to eat, might have.

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Accepting he ate, but does it mean that
you have to maintain slaughterhouse?

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Just see.

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And besides that, he
might have done anything.

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He’s powerful.

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He can eat.

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Therefore the other day I said,
“He can eat the whole world.”

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But you cannot imitate.

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You have to follow his instruction.

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That is Christianity. [splice]

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One, in Delhi, when our festival was
going on, we invited a big chemist.

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He admitted that “Our chemical advance,
scientific advancement is like this.”

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He explained very nicely.

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You were present?

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- Where?
- In Delhi?

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He said that a man who has
learned the art to, what is called,

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barking like dog, and people
will go to see, purchasing ticket,

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ten rupees, twenty rupees, how
the man is barking like a dog.

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And there are so many dogs
barking; they won’t see.

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This is our advancement.

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If a man has artificially learned how to
bark, they’ll go to see by paying fees.

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And the natural
barking, they don’t.

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So these rascals are like that.

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They’re trying to manufacture life.

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And so many life is coming
by nature’s process,

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millions and millions;
that is no credit.

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And he’s trying, utopian, he’ll create life by
chemical combination, he’s given all credit,

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Nobel Prize: “Oh, here is a man.”

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This is rascaldom.

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So what credit you’ll get.

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Suppose if you can manufacture a
man or an animal in the laboratory:

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Where is your credit?

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There are many millions and
millions are coming automatically.

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We are trying to give credit to Kṛṣṇa
who is making all this creation.

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There is one Englishman
named Aldous Huxley…

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- Yes.
- who wrote a book called

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<i>Brave New World</i>,
and in that book,

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he predicted something
that’s coming true now,

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that there would be a process
of biologically screening babies,

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so that men could be breeded like
animals, like they breed animals.

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So they would take one
strain of chromosomes,

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and breed a class of men who
would make perfect administrators,

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and then they would breed another class
of men that would be perfect <i>śūdras</i>,

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and they would breed another class of
men who would be perfect scientists.

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And that is already there.

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<i>guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ</i>
[Bg 4.13]

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In Vedic astrology, <i>jāta-
karma</i>, they will say that,

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“This child is a <i>śūdra</i>,
this child is a <i>brāhmaṇa</i>,

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this child is a <i>kṣatriya</i>.”

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By the birth, by the constellation
of the stars, it will be done.

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It is already being done.

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And in the medical laboratory,
the blood has been tested,

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<i>brāhmaṇa</i>, <i>śūdra</i>, <i>vaiśya</i>;
there is different blood.

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- Wow.
- Yes.

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The blood infusion.

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So if the, a different blood
is infused, it does not act.

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So one doctor, in India,

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he was permanently keeping
different bloods for different persons.

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So there is some meaning
in the caste system.

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But that is not…

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In a <i>brāhmaṇa</i> family, a
<i>śūdra</i> may also take birth.

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<i>Śūdra</i> blood.

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So to keep the blood brahminical,
therefore the reformatory system is there,

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<i>garbhādhāna-saṁskāra</i>
and all the <i>saṁskāras</i>.

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Before birth, they keep, to keep the
blood brahminical, there is ceremony.

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SATSVARŪPA: Yesterday you said
when one becomes initiated

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by a bona fide spiritual
master, his body changes.

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Yes.

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Even if he was <i>mleccha</i>, [he]
can become <i>brāhmaṇa</i>.

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Actually, the chemists also say
there are four types of blood,

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A, AB, O, or something like that.

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They give it four names.

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And according to Hindu system, the
marriage was taking place find…,

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examining the girl’s constitution
and the boy’s constitution

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so that there may
not be disruption.

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Everything was there.

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