MW HYD 1974-04-29 Miracles and MIRACLES
ANNOUNCER: The following is a morning walk conversation
with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
recorded on April 29th, 1974, in Hyderabad, India.
PRABHUPĀDA: Huh? DEVOTEE: They are attracted by wonderful things such as Sai Baba.
He is doing so many wonderful things. People…
That is, means rascal.
He does not see Kṛṣṇa’s wonderful.
If you want to see wonderful things, why don’t you see the more wonderful things?
But they are foolish; they are captivated with small wonderful things.
That means less intelligent.
Just like small children, they will be amazed by seeing small wonderful things,
but his father will not be.
What is the amazement, wonderful thing, Sai Baba has done?
If he is creator of gold, then why he is doing business of incense?
You know that?
He has a big incense business exactly like us.
He can create gold?
Why there is incense business? [break]
Caitanya Mahāprabhu used to give to His mother some gold
when there was need of money. “Mother, I got this gold. So you can utilize it.”
The mother would think that “We are poor men, we have no gold.
Wherefrom this boy brings gold?”
So he [she] was doubtful because he [she] was thinking, “My son is mad,
sometimes crazy.”
So he [she] would go, “Is it real gold? Just see.”
Then. “Yes, it is real gold.” “Hm, how He got it?”
You see. [break]
…many yogis, they make such gold for meeting their expenditures.
Yes.
Still in India they know how to make gold from copper.
Yes.
The process is they will drink mercury at night,
and in the morning they will urine on the copper coins.
And then, after some hours,
the copper coins taken and put into the fire, it becomes gold.
And it is scientific that some molecules of mercury, if mixed with copper, it is gold.
Gold is combination of mercury and copper.
But the people cannot mix it.
They have tried. That is called alchemism.
They're triying to mix it.
Because they do not know the process, as soon as mercury is put into fire,
it immediately goes out.
You melt copper, and in hot copper, if you put mercury, it will not melt together.
Immediately it will throw away.
So some of the yogis, they know.
They digest copper.
Ah yeah—mercury, and it comes in the form, urine.
And then the copper is put there.
There is an interaction, and then put into fire. It becomes gold.
GARGAMUNI: So we should start manufacturing.
You first of all eat mercury then. [laughter]
You’ll be finished. [break]
…no scarcity.
Why should we go to imitate the rascals?
We have got enough gold.
Kṛṣṇa is supplying gold whenever we require. [break]
…artha-prayojanam.
Whatever you need, Kṛṣṇa will supply, if you actually remain dependent on Kṛṣṇa.
There are so many literatures of different groups, but who is selling so much?
Forty thousand, fifty thousand daily?
Unless Kṛṣṇa is helping us.
In the history no religion book have sold thirty thousand, forty thousand daily.
There is no history.
And why you don’t you see this wonderful thing?
All the money that I have brought from USA, India, it is all book fund.
Nobody has given. George has given. That is not in cash.
And he gave that two lakhs. That was spent for Kṛṣṇa Book.
So wherefrom the cash is coming?
Sales of books. That’s all right.
Because we have got substantial sale of books, we are free to get money.
And it is unbelievable that religious books are sold thirty thousand, forty thousand,
fifty thousand daily.
There is no history.
So that is a miracle.
Is it not miracle?
SATSVARŪPA: How one person can sell a hundred Bhāgavatams.
Some of those devotees like Tripurari, a hundred big Bhāgavatams.
It’s not a popular book.
It is not popular actually.
For the common man it is dry subject.
And I have heard that after reading one book, somebody comes to purchase.
“What is this, Bhāgavata?”
“We have got six.” “All right, give me six volumes.”
He is not a devotee.
Why he purchases all the six volumes of Bhāgavatam?
In London our Bhagavad-gītā As It Is was sold in two months, thirty thousand copies.
That is the report. Thirty thousand copies.
YADUBARA: Even though they don’t understand the subject matter,
they purchase. Yes. Yes. [break]
Bon Mahārāja has written part of Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu.
And he published it before my coming to foreign countries.
Yes. He has not sold any.
No, he has sold some, but still lying in the store.
He published only one thousand copies.
Our Nectar of Devotion, the translation of the same book, is selling like hotcakes.
Yes.
In the university, Temple University, they have made a textbook.
Everywhere they like it, Nectar of Devotion.
I think… What is our edition at the present moment?
Fourth or Fifth edition.
And we don’t publish less than ten thousand copies.
So we have to depend on Kṛṣṇa sincerely.
Serve Him, everything, what is required, that will come, some how or other.
That is miracle.
Why should we try to cheat others, that “I can manufacture gold”?
This rascal, if he can manufacture gold, then why he is doing himself business?
That is simply jugglery.
Even the magicians, they can do.
They create so much money.
But he is a poor man.
Why he remains poor?
And everyone thinks of us, that we have got unlimited wealth.
You know that? Yes.
In Māyāpura, when I bring over the karatālas,
they are very heavy, two hundred sets of karatālas.
So the boatmen say, “Sona, sona.”
They are thinking it is gold, the karatālas.
Everyone… Even government…
In the parliament the question was raised, “Wherefrom they get money fabulously?”
These men, in our country, they may be fools.
In your country also, Los Angeles, I mean, neighboring storekeepers,
they are wonderful,
“These people do not work
and they have got so many cars and live so nicely?” [laughing]
They inquire that “How do we get all these things?”
They actually see that they are not ordinary working.
They have no working or bank balance or business.
Still, they have got so many cars
and they eat nicely and they maintain such a nice house.
And six, seven house they have purchasing.
The realtors, they also know in America that we are very rich men.
As soon as there is some property, they offer,
because they know that we are very rich men.
Because we have purchased some properties, so all the realtors,
they have taken it for granted that we have got immense money.
Here also, the members are thinking like that,
that “Swamiji has got immense money.”
MAHĀṀSA: Yes. And he will send when we want.
He will pay.
You can tell them that “Not a single farthing here.”
He can spend all elsewhere. [splice]
You know the parliamentary question?
Yes.
Parliament questioned that “These Americans,
they are supposed to be…” What is that? “CIA. CIA.”
Is there any information to the government?
“Besides that, they have got fabulous money. They are spending.
Wherefrom they get the money?
And if they are CIA, then what steps the government is going to step,
take against them?”
So the reply was three.
First reply was “The government has no information that they are CIA people.
Therefore the third question doesn’t require to be answered, what steps?
And so far their fabulous money,
it is understood they collect by selling their literature and public contribution.”
Yes. Home member replied like this.
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