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MW HYD 1974-04-29 Miracles and MIRACLES
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ANNOUNCER: The following is
a morning walk conversation
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with His Divine Grace
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
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recorded on April 29th,
1974, in Hyderabad, India.
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PRABHUPĀDA: Huh?
DEVOTEE: They are attracted by
wonderful things such as Sai Baba.
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He is doing so many
wonderful things. People…
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That is, means rascal.
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He does not see
Kṛṣṇa’s wonderful.
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If you want to see wonderful things, why
don’t you see the more wonderful things?
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But they are foolish; they are
captivated with small wonderful things.
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That means less intelligent.
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Just like small children, they will be
amazed by seeing small wonderful things,
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but his father will not be.
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What is the amazement, wonderful
thing, Sai Baba has done?
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If he is creator of gold, then why
he is doing business of incense?
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You know that?
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He has a big incense
business exactly like us.
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He can create gold?
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Why there is incense
business? [break]
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Caitanya Mahāprabhu used to
give to His mother some gold
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when there was need of money. “Mother,
I got this gold. So you can utilize it.”
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The mother would think that “We
are poor men, we have no gold.
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Wherefrom this boy brings gold?”
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So he [she] was doubtful because he
[she] was thinking, “My son is mad,
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sometimes crazy.”
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So he [she] would go,
“Is it real gold? Just see.”
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Then. “Yes, it is real gold.”
“Hm, how He got it?”
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You see. [break]
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…many yogis, they make such gold
for meeting their expenditures.
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Yes.
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Still in India they know how
to make gold from copper.
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Yes.
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The process is they will
drink mercury at night,
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and in the morning they will
urine on the copper coins.
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And then, after some hours,
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the copper coins taken and put
into the fire, it becomes gold.
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And it is scientific that some molecules of
mercury, if mixed with copper, it is gold.
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Gold is combination of
mercury and copper.
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But the people cannot mix it.
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They have tried. That
is called alchemism.
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They're triying to mix it.
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Because they do not know the process,
as soon as mercury is put into fire,
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it immediately goes out.
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You melt copper, and in hot copper, if
you put mercury, it will not melt together.
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Immediately it will throw away.
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So some of the yogis, they know.
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They digest copper.
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Ah yeah—mercury, and it
comes in the form, urine.
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And then the copper is put there.
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There is an interaction, and then
put into fire. It becomes gold.
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GARGAMUNI: So we
should start manufacturing.
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You first of all eat
mercury then. [laughter]
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You’ll be finished. [break]
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…no scarcity.
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Why should we go to
imitate the rascals?
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We have got enough gold.
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Kṛṣṇa is supplying gold
whenever we require. [break]
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…artha-prayojanam.
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Whatever you need, Kṛṣṇa will supply, if
you actually remain dependent on Kṛṣṇa.
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There are so many literatures of different
groups, but who is selling so much?
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Forty thousand, fifty
thousand daily?
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Unless Kṛṣṇa is helping us.
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In the history no religion book have sold
thirty thousand, forty thousand daily.
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There is no history.
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And why you don’t you see
this wonderful thing?
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All the money that I have brought
from USA, India, it is all book fund.
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Nobody has given. George
has given. That is not in cash.
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And he gave that two lakhs.
That was spent for Kṛṣṇa Book.
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So wherefrom the cash is coming?
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Sales of books. That’s all right.
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Because we have got substantial sale
of books, we are free to get money.
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And it is unbelievable that religious books
are sold thirty thousand, forty thousand,
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fifty thousand daily.
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There is no history.
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So that is a miracle.
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Is it not miracle?
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SATSVARŪPA: How one person
can sell a hundred Bhāgavatams.
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Some of those devotees like Tripurari,
a hundred big Bhāgavatams.
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It’s not a popular book.
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It is not popular actually.
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For the common
man it is dry subject.
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And I have heard that after reading one
book, somebody comes to purchase.
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“What is this, Bhāgavata?”
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“We have got six.” “All
right, give me six volumes.”
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He is not a devotee.
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Why he purchases all the
six volumes of Bhāgavatam?
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In London our Bhagavad-gītā As It Is was
sold in two months, thirty thousand copies.
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That is the report.
Thirty thousand copies.
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YADUBARA: Even though they don’t
understand the subject matter,
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they purchase. Yes. Yes. [break]
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Bon Mahārāja has written part
of Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu.
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And he published it before my
coming to foreign countries.
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Yes. He has not sold any.
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No, he has sold some,
but still lying in the store.
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He published only
one thousand copies.
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Our Nectar of Devotion, the translation of
the same book, is selling like hotcakes.
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Yes.
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In the university, Temple University,
they have made a textbook.
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Everywhere they like
it, Nectar of Devotion.
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I think… What is our edition
at the present moment?
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Fourth or Fifth edition.
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And we don’t publish less
than ten thousand copies.
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So we have to depend
on Kṛṣṇa sincerely.
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Serve Him, everything, what is required,
that will come, some how or other.
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That is miracle.
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Why should we try to cheat others,
that “I can manufacture gold”?
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This rascal, if he can manufacture gold,
then why he is doing himself business?
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That is simply jugglery.
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Even the magicians, they can do.
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They create so much money.
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But he is a poor man.
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Why he remains poor?
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And everyone thinks of us, that
we have got unlimited wealth.
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You know that? Yes.
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In Māyāpura, when I
bring over the karatālas,
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they are very heavy, two
hundred sets of karatālas.
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So the boatmen say, “Sona, sona.”
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They are thinking it
is gold, the karatālas.
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Everyone… Even government…
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In the parliament the question was raised,
“Wherefrom they get money fabulously?”
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These men, in our country,
they may be fools.
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In your country also, Los Angeles,
I mean, neighboring storekeepers,
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they are wonderful,
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“These people do not work
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and they have got so many cars
and live so nicely?” [laughing]
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They inquire that “How do
we get all these things?”
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They actually see that they
are not ordinary working.
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They have no working or
bank balance or business.
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Still, they have got so many cars
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and they eat nicely and they
maintain such a nice house.
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And six, seven house
they have purchasing.
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The realtors, they also know in
America that we are very rich men.
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As soon as there is some
property, they offer,
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because they know that
we are very rich men.
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Because we have purchased some
properties, so all the realtors,
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they have taken it for granted that
we have got immense money.
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Here also, the members
are thinking like that,
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that “Swamiji has got
immense money.”
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MAHĀṀSA: Yes. And he
will send when we want.
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He will pay.
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You can tell them that
“Not a single farthing here.”
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He can spend all
elsewhere. [splice]
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You know the
parliamentary question?
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Yes.
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Parliament questioned
that “These Americans,
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they are supposed to be…”
What is that? “CIA. CIA.”
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Is there any information
to the government?
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“Besides that, they have got
fabulous money. They are spending.
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Wherefrom they get the money?
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And if they are CIA, then what steps
the government is going to step,
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take against them?”
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So the reply was three.
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First reply was “The government has no
information that they are CIA people.
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Therefore the third question doesn’t
require to be answered, what steps?
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And so far their fabulous money,
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it is understood they collect by selling
their literature and public contribution.”
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Yes. Home member
replied like this.
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