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MW JOH 1975-10-21 Abortionists-Kick Them in Nose
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ANNOUNCER: The following is
a morning walk conversation
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with His Divine Grace
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
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recorded on October 21st,
1975, in Durban, South Africa.
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Kṛṣṇa went to collect with Sudāmā
Vipra, and all of a sudden,
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there was cloud and rain, and
there was too much water,
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and they lived upon a
tree for the whole night.
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Then Sāndīpani Muni, other
students, came and rescued them.
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Now we have to
collect to pay the electricity bill.
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These things are wasted.
It can be utilized.
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The children, they’ll
gladly collect it.
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It will be like their sports.
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All the children will come
and collect. Just see.
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Their energy is utilized, the nature’s gift
is utilized, and there is no expenditure.
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Such a nice arrangment. Yes. Why
they should charge for education?
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They’ll not cut the tree.
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The dry branches or dead tree,
they’ll take the wood for utilization.
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We can walk down this way,
Śrīla Prabhupāda [break]
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…parents who would give up
their children to gurukula,
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they would never see
them for about ten years?
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Never see. Ten years?
Twenty-five years.
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They may go and see, give
some gifts to the guru.
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In the Western countries they
criticize our gurukula that “This is inhuman,
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people sending their children away at
such an early age, not seeing them.”
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And to kill, that is very human.
Rascal. Kick them upon their face.
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You rascal, you are talking of
morality, rascal, you go to hell.
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Your place is hell.
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“Devil citing scripture.”
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You are not… You are so shameless that
you do not be ashamed to speak like that.
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You are so shameless.
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Your civilization is so shameless.
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You are killing child in the womb,
and you are talking “inhumanity.”
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Just see.
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We have to deal with
such fools and rascals.
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But they say the
child in the womb is not living.
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They say it’s not life yet. Only after
it takes birth. That is said by you.
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You, the tenth-class
rascal, you say like that.
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No sane man says like that.
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Because you are a tenth-class rascal—you
have no knowledge—you say like that.
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They are… The so-called scientists,
they are tenth-class rascals.
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Until the child
is moving there is no life.
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Moving,
it is not moving?
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No. It doesn’t move
until after seven months.
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Then why the dead child
cannot move, rascal?
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It’s developing, it’s growing.
That’s moving also.
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No, no, if moving is not there, then
the dead child is also not moving.
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Why he is not moving again?
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I don’t understand.
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A dead child
comes; it is not moving.
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But does it come to
movement again?
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No.
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Then?
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Oh.
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He is another rascal.
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He takes so much time
to answer [laughter]
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PUṢṬA KṚṢṆA: This idea of the
“devil citing scripture,” Prabhupāda,
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is very common.
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Devils, all devils.
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They wanted to write
an article about this for BTG,
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and everybody was sitting
around giving these examples.
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Yes, think over. Write article.
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If there was no life who is at
a certain stage in the womb,
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wherefrom the movement
comes, if there was no life?
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They say it develops to the point…
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PRABHUPĀDA: But why it does not
develop in a dead child, rascal?
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The same child, if it comes out dead,
why the movement does not develop?
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Well, that one already
developed properly and then died.
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That child already developed
properly. No, the process is the same.
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It was not moving. At a
cetain stage it is moving.
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Similarly, if it is not moving, then
wait for a certain stage; it will move.
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Why it is decomposed?
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But that dead child was moving and then
died. How it became dead, nonsense?
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The condition is the same, no
movement. So how do you say “dead?”
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Why do you say “dead?”
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The distinction is it was not
moving, and it is now not moving,
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so why do you call “dead?”
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In such a foolish society,
how people can be happy?
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Well, it’s the mother’s
choice to kill the child or not.
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If the child isn’t born yet, it
hasn’t come to life in the world,
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so the mother has the responsibility; she
can kill it or not because it’s her thing,
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her child, her production,
so she can kill it or not.
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So I can
kill you; I am your guru.
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Yes. Who can say anything?
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I can kill you.
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Why police is there?
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I can say, “He is my disciple.
He has fully surrendered.
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I can kill him.” That’s all.
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Will that argument save
me from police action?
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No.
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The child is so dependent on the mother,
if the mother mistreats the opportunity,
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she also is punished.
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Yes.
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But if the child would cause
the mother so much anxiety…
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PRABHUPĀDA: Don’t talk like
foolish. Don’t talk of that.
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It is waste of time.
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If it is the property of the mother,
mother can kill at any time.
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Why at a certain point if the
mother kills child she is hanged?
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If the mother has got the liberty to
kill the child, she can kill at any time.
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Well, it’s just a tumor.
It’s like a tumor.
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Then why you say that it
is mother’s right to kill?
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And tumor, can you
bring life in tumor?
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Kick simply on their
face, on their nose.
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That is the only thing to treat with
such… Murkhasya latausadhiḥ.
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Such fools in the society,
they should be hanged.
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Misleading the whole population.
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Even the big, big
philosophers simply say that
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life doesn’t start until it
comes out of the womb.
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They are just convinced of it.
They are just convinced of it.
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No matter what argument you give,
they are just simply convinced.
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How they are convinced? Hm?
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Prabhupāda’s argument is that if life is not
there in the womb, then how it develops?
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Yes. That is the point.
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Just like the eggs.
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If there is no life, how
the chicken comes?
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Why don’t you manufacture
an egg and bring life from it?
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That was… The other
day I was talking.
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So because you are tenth-class rascal you
cannot understand how the life is there.
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A seed. Take a seed.
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Unless there is life, how a
big tree comes out of it?
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You manufacture something like
that, imitating, and bring life.
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Life is there.
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Because you are tenth-class
rascal you do not know.
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They also bring up the
insane argument that life…
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PRABHUPĀDA: “Insane
argument.” How we have…?
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We have no time to hear
such insane argument.
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But these demons, Prabhupāda, they
pose themselves as being very religious.
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They pose themselves
as being very religious.
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How they are religious?
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They cite scripture.
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[laughs] The
scripture is also devilish.
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The scientists cannot
immediately accept authority of the Bhāgavatam,
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that it will take hundreds of years.
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Less intelligent. No intelligence.
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Therefore I was quoting that,
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sva-vi-varāhoṣṭra-kharai
saṁstuta puruṣaḥ paśuḥ [?].
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This class of scientists and such,
they are eulogized by small rascals.
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They are rascals,
and small rascals…
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That is actually happening.
Just like your President Nixon.
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How he was being
given reception, crowd.
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Hundreds and thousands
of people used to come.
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And then again get him down, make
him humiliated as far as possible.
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So this is a rascal, Nixon, and the person
who elected him, they are rascals.
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Therefore the Bhāgavata says, sva-
vi-varāhoṣṭra-kharai saṁstutaḥ [?].
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Here is one big animal, and the
small animals voting him. That’s all.
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This is the society, animal society—the small
animals praising the big animals. That’s all.
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All of them are animals only.
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DEVOTEE: The big animals
also prey on the small animals.
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Yes. Mutual praising
society. That’s all.
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“I praise you and you praise me.
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I say you are very big; you
say I am very big.” That’s all.
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And compromise.
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“I don’t criticize you; you don’t
criticize me.” That’s all [break]
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