0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:16,001 MW SD 1972-06-30 Scientists--Envious Bombastic Rascals 1 00:00:16,002 --> 00:00:19,119 ANNOUNCER: The following is a morning walk conversation, 2 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:24,583 with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, 3 00:00:24,584 --> 00:00:47,199 recorded on the 30th of June, 1972, in San Diego, California. 4 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,202 PRABHUPĀDA: …the brain of Einstein. 5 00:00:51,203 --> 00:00:52,845 ĀTREYA ṚṢI: The brain of who? 6 00:00:52,846 --> 00:00:53,603 DEVOTEE (1): Einstein? 7 00:00:53,604 --> 00:00:55,173 Einstein. 8 00:00:55,174 --> 00:01:00,008 Well, the way they’re doing it is through the genetic… Yes. 9 00:01:00,009 --> 00:01:03,842 - Whatever it may be, they are trying… - Yes. 10 00:01:03,843 --> 00:01:09,348 …to make a xerox copy. 11 00:01:09,349 --> 00:01:12,237 So why not the original? 12 00:01:12,238 --> 00:01:14,614 What is that? 13 00:01:14,615 --> 00:01:17,091 Explain to him. 14 00:01:17,092 --> 00:01:20,099 - Why not the original? - Yes. 15 00:01:20,100 --> 00:01:28,860 The scientists, they are trying to make a xerox copy of Professor Einstein. 16 00:01:28,861 --> 00:01:35,329 So why not the original? Hmm? What is their answer? 17 00:01:35,330 --> 00:01:37,481 They cannot keep the original alive. 18 00:01:37,482 --> 00:01:40,846 No, that’s all right, but let them make one original. 19 00:01:40,847 --> 00:01:43,097 - [They] can’t even begin. - Hm? 20 00:01:43,098 --> 00:01:46,031 They can’t even make a cell. 21 00:01:46,032 --> 00:01:47,643 Then what is their credit? 22 00:01:47,644 --> 00:01:49,797 - They have made a computer. - Huh? 23 00:01:49,798 --> 00:01:56,799 They have made a computer, but it takes a human being to program the computer. 24 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,517 So what is their credit? 25 00:01:59,518 --> 00:02:05,071 If you simply copy something, that is not credit. 26 00:02:05,072 --> 00:02:08,477 The credit should go to the original. 27 00:02:08,478 --> 00:02:12,787 The scientists admit that there is nothing new that they can make. 28 00:02:12,788 --> 00:02:16,398 Everything is the manipulation of the laws of nature. 29 00:02:16,399 --> 00:02:18,684 Then the thing is that 30 00:02:18,685 --> 00:02:25,230 as they are individual person trying to do something wonderful, 31 00:02:25,231 --> 00:02:29,644 the individual person who has already done all this wonderful, 32 00:02:29,645 --> 00:02:33,782 how much credit He deserves. 33 00:02:33,783 --> 00:02:38,536 If by simply copying you want to take so much credit 34 00:02:38,537 --> 00:02:46,270 that you will defy the existence of God, you are so fool, rascal, 35 00:02:46,271 --> 00:02:49,359 then how much credit should be given 36 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:55,014 to the original person who has made all these things existing. 37 00:02:55,015 --> 00:02:57,760 What is their answer? 38 00:02:57,761 --> 00:02:59,874 - They simply don’t care. - Like that man said last night, 39 00:02:59,875 --> 00:03:01,192 “We will do it.” 40 00:03:01,193 --> 00:03:03,916 You’ll do exactly; that’s all right. 41 00:03:03,917 --> 00:03:06,447 He’ll do it, but it is already there. 42 00:03:06,448 --> 00:03:11,242 What is your credit, he’ll do it? 43 00:03:11,243 --> 00:03:16,182 It is already there; then what is your credit? 44 00:03:16,183 --> 00:03:19,553 - They choose to ignore it. - Even if… Even if you do that, 45 00:03:19,554 --> 00:03:25,478 Aeh; already one who has done it, why don’t you give Him credit? 46 00:03:25,479 --> 00:03:28,042 Yeah; instead of being envious. 47 00:03:28,043 --> 00:03:33,261 Ah there… Where is there… Tān ahaṁ dviṣataḥ krūṛān. 48 00:03:33,262 --> 00:03:36,814 They’re envious: rascal. 49 00:03:36,815 --> 00:03:38,458 Envious means rascal. 50 00:03:38,459 --> 00:03:40,108 That is material quality. 51 00:03:40,109 --> 00:03:45,870 And spiritual quality means to praise good quality: “Ahhh. [splice]” 52 00:03:45,871 --> 00:03:50,828 And enviousness: “Oh, this man is surpassing me? All right. I…” 53 00:03:50,829 --> 00:03:52,840 - Cut him down? - That’s right. 54 00:03:52,841 --> 00:03:54,103 This is material. 55 00:03:54,104 --> 00:03:55,893 Matsaratā. 56 00:03:55,894 --> 00:04:01,587 This is explained in Bhāgavata as matsaratā. 57 00:04:01,588 --> 00:04:09,999 paramo nirmatsarāṇāṁ satāṁ vāstavaḥ vastu vedyam atra [SB 1.1.2] 58 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,922 Last night you said that that man… 59 00:04:12,923 --> 00:04:15,704 That man’s claim was like a poor man saying, 60 00:04:15,705 --> 00:04:17,811 - “Yes, I’ll become a millionaire.” - Yes. 61 00:04:17,812 --> 00:04:19,659 “Someday I’ll become a millionaire.” 62 00:04:19,660 --> 00:04:27,813 And he wants the respect of a millionaire immediately, with future tense; just see. 63 00:04:27,814 --> 00:04:30,339 “Ah, you give me the respect of a millionaire. 64 00:04:30,340 --> 00:04:32,996 I shall become in future a millionaire.” 65 00:04:32,997 --> 00:04:34,796 What is this nonsense? 66 00:04:34,797 --> 00:04:39,813 “First of all you become millionaire; then ask the respect.” 67 00:04:39,814 --> 00:04:43,146 They want the credit beforehand. 68 00:04:43,147 --> 00:04:45,545 “Trust no future, however pleasant.” 69 00:04:45,546 --> 00:04:46,787 Why shall I believe you? 70 00:04:46,788 --> 00:04:48,440 There’s a lake over there. 71 00:04:48,441 --> 00:04:50,876 There’s a pond, we can walk down there. 72 00:04:50,877 --> 00:04:54,096 Oh, bridge we are not going to cross. 73 00:04:54,097 --> 00:04:55,889 All right, sir. 74 00:04:55,890 --> 00:04:59,474 Every time they find something new they should be glorifying Kṛṣṇa. 75 00:04:59,475 --> 00:05:01,611 Yes. 76 00:05:01,612 --> 00:05:04,681 That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. 77 00:05:04,682 --> 00:05:08,476 It’s all there. 78 00:05:08,477 --> 00:05:11,401 These are all peach trees. 79 00:05:11,402 --> 00:05:13,762 Ahh. 80 00:05:13,763 --> 00:05:16,821 You have made this nice park, 81 00:05:16,822 --> 00:05:21,739 but with the help of God, who has created all these trees. 82 00:05:21,740 --> 00:05:25,070 You cannot do that. 83 00:05:25,071 --> 00:05:29,970 This means that you try to help or cooperate with God. 84 00:05:29,971 --> 00:05:34,559 Then your credit is all right. 85 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,466 Just like God has created this tree, 86 00:05:37,467 --> 00:05:42,799 and you are cooperating to make it nicely trimmed; make this path. 87 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,023 This is cooperation. 88 00:05:45,024 --> 00:05:48,367 You take this much credit. 89 00:05:48,368 --> 00:05:54,423 It is first credit given to God, who has created this tree. 90 00:05:54,424 --> 00:05:57,333 Does this remind you of Vṛndāvana, Prabhupāda? 91 00:05:57,334 --> 00:06:00,793 - Huh? - Is this like Vṛndāvana? 92 00:06:00,794 --> 00:06:04,044 - Vṛndāvana? - Vṛndāvana is different. 93 00:06:04,045 --> 00:06:08,024 This is man-made. 94 00:06:08,025 --> 00:06:10,966 DEVOTEE (2): Is this like Dvārakā, when Kṛṣṇa was living in Dvārakā, 95 00:06:10,967 --> 00:06:17,179 - they had trees… - Yes, Dvārakā, yes. 96 00:06:17,180 --> 00:06:21,952 Vṛndāvana trees are all full of fruits and flowers. 97 00:06:21,953 --> 00:06:25,190 These are for fuel: these trees. 98 00:06:25,191 --> 00:06:27,507 - For fuel. - That’s all. 99 00:06:27,508 --> 00:06:30,005 For burning. 100 00:06:30,006 --> 00:06:37,166 There is no fruits and flowers. [break] 101 00:06:37,167 --> 00:06:42,457 …come on… on shore and get drunk and make trouble. 102 00:06:42,458 --> 00:06:45,852 They have their own police. 103 00:06:45,853 --> 00:06:54,466 - Ah, military has their own police. - Yeah. 104 00:06:54,467 --> 00:07:03,162 They are so pious and advanced in civilization, the students require police. 105 00:07:03,163 --> 00:07:06,382 The dean has probably requested police, 106 00:07:06,383 --> 00:07:09,692 - and still they are very much proud of advancement. - Yes. 107 00:07:09,693 --> 00:07:14,606 - The police steals too. - Yes. 108 00:07:14,607 --> 00:07:22,154 - Especially in New York. - And police also requires another police. 109 00:07:22,155 --> 00:07:29,749 harāv abhaktasya kuto mahad-guṇā [SB 5.18.12] 110 00:07:29,750 --> 00:07:34,395 All these Indians coming to this country to benefit. 111 00:07:34,396 --> 00:07:37,844 Maybe we should go to India to take care of Vṛndāvana 112 00:07:37,845 --> 00:07:41,235 - and all these other lands. - Yes; Therefore, this movement is there. 113 00:07:41,236 --> 00:07:44,213 - Will we be someday in charge of those? - Oh, yes, 114 00:07:44,214 --> 00:07:55,264 We are already in charge; you simply take charge. 115 00:07:55,265 --> 00:08:00,842 Your appointment is already there; simply go and take charge over. 116 00:08:00,843 --> 00:08:06,753 - No one else can even dispute it. - Yes. 117 00:08:06,754 --> 00:08:15,127 Hare Kṛṣṇa. 118 00:08:15,128 --> 00:08:15,129 Subtitles by Pratyatoṣa Dāsa, Causelessmercy.com