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MW SD 1972-06-30 Scientists--Envious Bombastic Rascals
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ANNOUNCER: The following is
a morning walk conversation,
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with His Divine Grace
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
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recorded on the 30th of June,
1972, in San Diego, California.
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PRABHUPĀDA: …the
brain of Einstein.
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ĀTREYA ṚṢI: The brain of who?
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DEVOTEE (1): Einstein?
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Einstein.
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Well, the way they’re doing it
is through the genetic… Yes.
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- Whatever it may be, they are trying…
- Yes.
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…to make a xerox copy.
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So why not the original?
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What is that?
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Explain to him.
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- Why not the original?
- Yes.
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The scientists, they are trying to make
a xerox copy of Professor Einstein.
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So why not the original?
Hmm? What is their answer?
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They cannot keep
the original alive.
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No, that’s all right, but let
them make one original.
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- [They] can’t even begin.
- Hm?
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They can’t even make a cell.
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Then what is their credit?
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- They have made a computer.
- Huh?
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They have made a computer, but it takes
a human being to program the computer.
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So what is their credit?
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If you simply copy
something, that is not credit.
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The credit should
go to the original.
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The scientists admit that there is
nothing new that they can make.
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Everything is the manipulation
of the laws of nature.
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Then the thing is that
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as they are individual person
trying to do something wonderful,
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the individual person who has
already done all this wonderful,
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how much credit He deserves.
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If by simply copying you
want to take so much credit
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that you will defy the existence
of God, you are so fool, rascal,
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then how much credit
should be given
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to the original person who has
made all these things existing.
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What is their answer?
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- They simply don’t care.
- Like that man said last night,
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“We will do it.”
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You’ll do exactly; that’s all right.
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He’ll do it, but it is already there.
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What is your credit, he’ll do it?
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It is already there; then
what is your credit?
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- They choose to ignore it.
- Even if… Even if you do that,
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Aeh; already one who has done
it, why don’t you give Him credit?
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Yeah; instead of being envious.
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Ah there… Where is there…
Tān ahaṁ dviṣataḥ krūṛān.
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They’re envious: rascal.
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Envious means rascal.
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That is material quality.
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And spiritual quality means to
praise good quality: “Ahhh. [splice]”
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And enviousness: “Oh, this man
is surpassing me? All right. I…”
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- Cut him down?
- That’s right.
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This is material.
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Matsaratā.
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This is explained in
Bhāgavata as matsaratā.
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paramo nirmatsarāṇāṁ satāṁ
vāstavaḥ vastu vedyam atra
[SB 1.1.2]
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Last night you said that that man…
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That man’s claim was
like a poor man saying,
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- “Yes, I’ll become a millionaire.”
- Yes.
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“Someday I’ll become
a millionaire.”
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And he wants the respect of a millionaire
immediately, with future tense; just see.
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“Ah, you give me the
respect of a millionaire.
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I shall become in
future a millionaire.”
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What is this nonsense?
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“First of all you become
millionaire; then ask the respect.”
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They want the credit beforehand.
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“Trust no future,
however pleasant.”
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Why shall I believe you?
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There’s a lake over there.
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There’s a pond, we
can walk down there.
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Oh, bridge we are
not going to cross.
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All right, sir.
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Every time they find something new
they should be glorifying Kṛṣṇa.
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Yes.
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That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
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It’s all there.
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These are all peach trees.
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Ahh.
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You have made this nice park,
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but with the help of God, who
has created all these trees.
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You cannot do that.
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This means that you try to
help or cooperate with God.
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Then your credit is all right.
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Just like God has created this tree,
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and you are cooperating to make
it nicely trimmed; make this path.
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This is cooperation.
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You take this much credit.
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It is first credit given to God,
who has created this tree.
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Does this remind you of
Vṛndāvana, Prabhupāda?
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- Huh?
- Is this like Vṛndāvana?
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- Vṛndāvana?
- Vṛndāvana is different.
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This is man-made.
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DEVOTEE (2): Is this like Dvārakā,
when Kṛṣṇa was living in Dvārakā,
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- they had trees…
- Yes, Dvārakā, yes.
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Vṛndāvana trees are all
full of fruits and flowers.
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These are for fuel: these trees.
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- For fuel.
- That’s all.
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For burning.
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There is no fruits
and flowers. [break]
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…come on… on shore and
get drunk and make trouble.
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They have their own police.
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- Ah, military has their own police.
- Yeah.
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They are so pious and advanced in
civilization, the students require police.
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The dean has probably
requested police,
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- and still they are very much proud of advancement.
- Yes.
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- The police steals too.
- Yes.
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- Especially in New York.
- And police also requires another police.
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harāv abhaktasya kuto mahad-guṇā
[SB 5.18.12]
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All these Indians coming
to this country to benefit.
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Maybe we should go to India
to take care of Vṛndāvana
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- and all these other lands.
- Yes; Therefore, this movement is there.
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- Will we be someday in charge of those?
- Oh, yes,
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We are already in charge;
you simply take charge.
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Your appointment is already there;
simply go and take charge over.
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- No one else can even dispute it.
- Yes.
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Hare Kṛṣṇa.
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