0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,229 MW VRN 1975-12-03 Voidists, Impersonalists 1 00:00:01,230 --> 00:00:03,870 ANNOUNCER: Next is a morning walk conversation, 2 00:00:03,871 --> 00:00:09,186 with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, 3 00:00:09,187 --> 00:00:19,719 recorded on December 3rd, 1975, in Vṛndāvana, India. 4 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,609 PRABHUPĀDA: Kṛṣṇa says everything practical. 5 00:00:23,610 --> 00:00:30,079 He never says that “You press your nose and everything will come.” 6 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,809 He never said like that. 7 00:00:32,810 --> 00:00:40,219 “Become a yogi by pressing your nose, and keep your head downward, 8 00:00:40,220 --> 00:00:47,779 and then you’ll become perfect and everything will come.” 9 00:00:47,780 --> 00:00:50,779 He never says. 10 00:00:50,780 --> 00:00:56,699 And Arjuna also never accepts anything impractical. 11 00:00:56,700 --> 00:01:00,679 That is Bhagavad-gītā. 12 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:08,223 As soon as Kṛṣṇa said that, “You practice yoga by this way”, 13 00:01:08,224 --> 00:01:13,309 “immediately Kṛṣṇa said”, “My dear Kṛṣṇa it is not possible, for me. 14 00:01:13,310 --> 00:01:18,319 I cannot control my mind.” 15 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:21,369 vāyor iva su-duṣkaram [Bg. 6.34] 16 00:01:21,370 --> 00:01:25,669 “It is impossible as to control the air.” 17 00:01:25,670 --> 00:01:30,769 If somebody says, “I shall control the air…” 18 00:01:30,770 --> 00:01:47,759 So these things are there in the Bhagavad-gītā, all practical. 19 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,803 Kṛṣṇa was accepted the Supreme Lord 20 00:01:51,804 --> 00:02:14,020 by His practical instruction and practical features. 21 00:02:14,021 --> 00:02:17,859 They are not following Kṛṣṇa’s instruction. 22 00:02:17,860 --> 00:02:46,609 That is the difficulty. [break] 23 00:02:46,610 --> 00:02:55,428 What is going on here? 24 00:02:55,429 --> 00:02:58,489 Private. 25 00:02:58,490 --> 00:02:59,169 Huh? 26 00:02:59,170 --> 00:03:09,560 INDIAN MAN: Rudra-yajña 27 00:03:09,561 --> 00:03:12,180 Somebody is exploiting. 28 00:03:12,181 --> 00:03:44,920 Rudra-yajña. [break] 29 00:03:44,921 --> 00:03:55,550 …any mention of Rudra-yajña? 30 00:03:55,551 --> 00:04:01,700 In the Bhagavad-gītā, the word is yajña. 31 00:04:01,701 --> 00:04:05,990 yajñārthāt karmaṇo ’nyatra [Bg. 3.9] 32 00:04:05,991 --> 00:04:09,040 Where is Rudra-yajña? 33 00:04:09,041 --> 00:04:40,640 [Bengali or Hindi] 34 00:04:40,641 --> 00:04:44,290 HARIKEŚA: How does one stop cheating in a world of cheats? 35 00:04:44,291 --> 00:04:48,610 This material world is meant for cheating. 36 00:04:48,611 --> 00:04:50,440 You cheat, and others will cheat you. 37 00:04:50,441 --> 00:04:51,260 That’s all. 38 00:04:51,261 --> 00:04:53,370 This is material world. 39 00:04:53,371 --> 00:04:56,710 It is not “how?” 40 00:04:56,711 --> 00:05:01,336 If you inquire, “How it is cold?” 41 00:05:01,337 --> 00:05:03,810 The season is cold. 42 00:05:03,811 --> 00:05:06,760 There is no question of how. 43 00:05:06,761 --> 00:05:10,980 The place is for cheating and cheaters. 44 00:05:10,981 --> 00:05:18,370 So there is no question, “How it is cheating?” 45 00:05:18,371 --> 00:05:21,694 - So you can’t stop the cold; you can’t stop the cheaters. - Yes. 46 00:05:21,695 --> 00:05:24,410 No; yes, it is not possible. 47 00:05:24,411 --> 00:05:30,250 But you can do everything by becoming Kṛṣṇa conscious. 48 00:05:30,251 --> 00:05:40,250 That is the advantage of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. 49 00:05:40,251 --> 00:05:41,174 Kṛṣṇa says, 50 00:05:41,175 --> 00:05:44,210 ahaṁ tvāṁ sarva-pāpebhyo mokṣayiṣyāmi [Bg 18.66] 51 00:05:44,211 --> 00:05:49,020 You cannot get out of sinful action, but Kṛṣṇa can do it. 52 00:05:49,021 --> 00:05:52,030 Therefore He says, “I’ll get you released.” 53 00:05:52,031 --> 00:06:01,280 You cannot get released, therefore He says, “I’ll do that.” 54 00:06:01,281 --> 00:06:03,324 So bringing it to a practical platform… 55 00:06:03,325 --> 00:06:05,960 Practical means it will be done by Kṛṣṇa. 56 00:06:05,961 --> 00:06:09,550 Your only business is to surrender to Kṛṣṇa. 57 00:06:09,551 --> 00:06:12,080 You cannot do anything. 58 00:06:12,081 --> 00:06:16,350 And as soon as you think that “I shall be able to do it,” then you are a rascal. 59 00:06:16,351 --> 00:06:25,390 Immediately you are rascal. 60 00:06:25,391 --> 00:06:27,098 So only a fully surrendered soul 61 00:06:27,099 --> 00:06:29,080 - can do everything perfectly. - Hm? 62 00:06:29,081 --> 00:06:32,130 A fully surrendered soul is the only one who can do things perfectly. 63 00:06:32,131 --> 00:06:39,930 He cannot do anything, even in his… Everything is to be done by Kṛṣṇa. 64 00:06:39,931 --> 00:06:45,720 But he has to apply his intelligence by Kṛṣṇa consciousness. 65 00:06:45,721 --> 00:06:50,970 Even if he is intelligent, he cannot do anything. 66 00:06:50,971 --> 00:06:52,850 - Except surrender. - Yes. 67 00:06:52,851 --> 00:06:57,750 He can surrender, and Kṛṣṇa will do everything. 68 00:06:57,751 --> 00:07:04,280 You have to act very sincerely under the direction of Kṛṣṇa, 69 00:07:04,281 --> 00:07:12,500 and then the war will be successful, as Arjuna did. 70 00:07:12,501 --> 00:07:17,560 So imperfect activity is a sign of lack of surrender. 71 00:07:17,561 --> 00:07:37,290 Yes. [break] 72 00:07:37,291 --> 00:07:40,515 …avaśya rakṣibe kṛṣṇa. 73 00:07:40,516 --> 00:07:44,640 rakṣiṣyati iti viśvāsa-pālanam [Śaraṇāgati] 74 00:07:44,641 --> 00:07:48,460 You work sincerely, devoutly, 75 00:07:48,461 --> 00:07:55,060 and have faith that “Kṛṣṇa will save me from all dangers.” 76 00:07:55,061 --> 00:07:59,640 rakṣiṣyati iti viśvāsa-pālanam [Śaraṇāgati] 77 00:07:59,641 --> 00:08:03,080 “I have surrendered to Kṛṣṇa sincerely. 78 00:08:03,081 --> 00:08:06,010 Now Kṛṣṇa will give me all protection.” 79 00:08:06,011 --> 00:08:17,970 This faith, that is the beginning of devotional life, Hare Kṛṣṇa. 80 00:08:17,971 --> 00:08:22,670 Faith. 81 00:08:22,671 --> 00:08:25,920 So this faith, is this śraddhā or niṣṭha? 82 00:08:25,921 --> 00:08:28,640 Śraddhā. 83 00:08:28,641 --> 00:08:30,970 Beginning, śraddhā. 84 00:08:30,971 --> 00:08:36,390 Then, when he is advanced, then he becomes fixed up. 85 00:08:36,391 --> 00:08:57,250 “Yes, Kṛṣṇa is protecting me.” [break] 86 00:08:57,251 --> 00:09:08,310 …[indistinct] here is some goddess Kali, and nobody is living here. 87 00:09:08,311 --> 00:09:10,500 No, and then they worship in that temple. 88 00:09:10,501 --> 00:09:12,700 That’s a temple there. 89 00:09:12,701 --> 00:09:18,780 Oh, Hare Kṛṣṇa. 90 00:09:18,781 --> 00:09:31,440 No, the road is, [indistinct], gate is closed. [break] 91 00:09:31,441 --> 00:09:35,742 People in general, they take that, 92 00:09:35,743 --> 00:09:43,000 “There is no God, and if there is God, He is now dead.” 93 00:09:43,001 --> 00:10:09,660 This is general impression. 94 00:10:09,661 --> 00:10:14,140 There is one nice thing I saw on one wall. 95 00:10:14,141 --> 00:10:17,659 It says, “God is dead”; Nietzche. 96 00:10:17,660 --> 00:10:19,755 And then right underneath it somebody wrote, 97 00:10:19,756 --> 00:10:24,480 “Nietzche is dead”; God. 98 00:10:24,481 --> 00:10:24,950 Nietzche? 99 00:10:24,951 --> 00:10:25,840 Nietzche means? 100 00:10:25,841 --> 00:10:27,611 - Nietzche, that philosopher. - Ah. 101 00:10:27,612 --> 00:10:36,441 - He was the one who first… - Hare Kṛṣṇa, Jaya, Yes. 102 00:10:36,442 --> 00:10:39,921 Nietzche first brought up the philosophy of “Everything is nothing,” 103 00:10:39,922 --> 00:10:46,331 for the Western people; “It’s all nothing; it all ultimately boils down to nothing. 104 00:10:46,332 --> 00:10:50,271 - So there is no possibility of God.” - Śūnyavādī, Śūnyavādī. 105 00:10:50,272 --> 00:10:52,751 That is śūnyavādī. 106 00:10:52,752 --> 00:10:58,861 Nirviśeṣa-śūnyavādī. 107 00:10:58,862 --> 00:11:07,631 Śūnyavādī, they say, “There is no God, and there is nothing, fact. 108 00:11:07,632 --> 00:11:17,601 Everything is combination of some illusory things.” 109 00:11:17,602 --> 00:11:21,831 This is śūnyavādī. 110 00:11:21,832 --> 00:11:33,331 And the Māyāvādī, they say, “Yes, there is God, but He has no form.” 111 00:11:33,332 --> 00:11:37,641 Therefore we have to kill both of them. 112 00:11:37,642 --> 00:11:43,121 nirviśeṣa-śūnyavādi -pāścātya-deśa-tāriṇe [Srila Prabhupada Pranati] 113 00:11:43,122 --> 00:11:54,531 The whole Western world are filled up with these śūnyavādi and impersonalists. 114 00:11:54,532 --> 00:11:58,122 India is also, nowadays, 115 00:11:58,123 --> 00:12:08,571 but there are, still there are devotees, in the ācārya-sampradāya. 116 00:12:08,572 --> 00:12:19,241 They are fighting against śunyavāda and nirviśeṣa. 117 00:12:19,242 --> 00:12:21,605 - In South India there are. - Huh? 118 00:12:21,606 --> 00:12:41,461 - I in… I think in South India a lot of the Rāmānuja followers there. - Yes. [break] 119 00:12:41,462 --> 00:12:47,301 AKṢAYĀNANDA: If everything was void, then there would be no hope for living. 120 00:12:47,302 --> 00:12:50,741 So might as well die. 121 00:12:50,742 --> 00:12:51,821 No. 122 00:12:51,822 --> 00:12:59,671 By combination, permutation, you create, and if you don’t want it, 123 00:12:59,672 --> 00:13:18,811 then avoid this combination. [break] 124 00:13:18,812 --> 00:13:26,841 Even in four o’clock time, visiting, if he comes at four o’clock, 125 00:13:26,842 --> 00:13:40,079 you let him come in. [break] 126 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:47,271 …Gurukula we require teachers for teaching the small children. 127 00:13:47,272 --> 00:13:59,891 So our, these girls, they cannot take this charge of teaching? 128 00:13:59,892 --> 00:14:04,041 Yes, one is already teaching now. 129 00:14:04,042 --> 00:14:08,861 - One is already teaching children now, one girl. - Who is he? 130 00:14:08,862 --> 00:14:10,764 - She is un-initiated. - British girl. 131 00:14:10,765 --> 00:14:13,661 Her name is Ruth; she’s English. 132 00:14:13,662 --> 00:14:15,621 Every afternoon she teaches the children. 133 00:14:15,622 --> 00:14:16,701 Indian? 134 00:14:16,702 --> 00:14:18,861 - No - No, English. 135 00:14:18,862 --> 00:14:20,461 GOPĀLA KṚṢṆA: There’s also one in Bombay. 136 00:14:20,462 --> 00:14:23,691 She used to be a public school teacher in England. 137 00:14:23,692 --> 00:14:28,671 After the school is open she can come over here. 138 00:14:28,672 --> 00:14:39,881 And there’s one, there’s one in Māyāpur, but she’s teaching in Māyāpur. 139 00:14:39,882 --> 00:15:05,431 - Similarly, other girls, they can take up this. - Yes. [break] 140 00:15:05,432 --> 00:15:07,711 …our guest. 141 00:15:07,712 --> 00:15:10,961 Because somebody is guest, paying guest, 142 00:15:10,962 --> 00:15:17,691 therefore we shall admit anyone in any kind of dress? 143 00:15:17,692 --> 00:15:22,131 No. 144 00:15:22,132 --> 00:15:25,441 We don’t admit people who look like hippies or something. 145 00:15:25,442 --> 00:15:30,431 That girl, I told her she had to wear a sari. 146 00:15:30,432 --> 00:15:33,121 And she did for some time, but then again she stopped. 147 00:15:33,122 --> 00:15:34,782 - And that I am speaking, - Yes. 148 00:15:34,783 --> 00:15:37,884 - that svā yadi kriyate rājā - Due to habit. 149 00:15:37,885 --> 00:15:41,881 sa kiṁ nāśnāty upānaham [Hitopadeśa] 150 00:15:41,882 --> 00:15:50,051 That is the difficulty. 151 00:15:50,052 --> 00:15:53,721 It will be very bad example. 152 00:15:53,722 --> 00:15:59,351 People will think that… They are already thinking that “These are all hippies.” 153 00:15:59,352 --> 00:16:18,191 That will minimize the prestige of the temple. [break] 154 00:16:18,192 --> 00:16:22,441 Jaipuria House they do not allow any hippies. 155 00:16:22,442 --> 00:16:25,361 - You know that? - Yes. - Yes. 156 00:16:25,362 --> 00:16:29,451 Jaipuria does not allow any foreigners at all. 157 00:16:29,452 --> 00:16:40,141 They don’t allow any foreigners at all, even if somebody is decently dressed. 158 00:16:40,142 --> 00:16:44,191 One boy came a couple of weeks ago. 159 00:16:44,192 --> 00:16:46,731 He had long hair. 160 00:16:46,732 --> 00:16:49,081 But the next day he came back and shaved up. 161 00:16:49,082 --> 00:16:49,975 He’s a devotee now. 162 00:16:49,976 --> 00:16:51,211 He’s doing nicely. 163 00:16:51,212 --> 00:16:53,131 That’s nice. 164 00:16:53,132 --> 00:16:57,161 So they will still come. 165 00:16:57,162 --> 00:16:59,931 They can become devotees. 166 00:16:59,932 --> 00:17:07,161 It’s all right then. 167 00:17:07,162 --> 00:17:13,589 Hare Kṛṣṇa. 168 00:17:13,590 --> 00:17:13,591 Subtitles by Gopī Kāntā Dāsa, Causelessmercy.com Edited by Pratyatoṣa Dāsa Sponsored by Jitarati Dāsa & Pratyatoṣa Dāsa