MW VRN 1975-12-03 Voidists, Impersonalists
ANNOUNCER: Next is a morning walk conversation,
with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
recorded on December 3rd, 1975, in Vṛndāvana, India.
PRABHUPĀDA: Kṛṣṇa says everything practical.
He never says that “You press your nose and everything will come.”
He never said like that.
“Become a yogi by pressing your nose, and keep your head downward,
and then you’ll become perfect and everything will come.”
He never says.
And Arjuna also never accepts anything impractical.
That is Bhagavad-gītā.
As soon as Kṛṣṇa said that, “You practice yoga by this way”,
“immediately Kṛṣṇa said”, “My dear Kṛṣṇa it is not possible, for me.
I cannot control my mind.”
vāyor iva su-duṣkaram [Bg. 6.34]
“It is impossible as to control the air.”
If somebody says, “I shall control the air…”
So these things are there in the Bhagavad-gītā, all practical.
Kṛṣṇa was accepted the Supreme Lord
by His practical instruction and practical features.
They are not following Kṛṣṇa’s instruction.
That is the difficulty. [break]
What is going on here?
Private.
Huh?
INDIAN MAN: Rudra-yajña
Somebody is exploiting.
Rudra-yajña. [break]
…any mention of Rudra-yajña?
In the Bhagavad-gītā, the word is yajña.
yajñārthāt karmaṇo ’nyatra [Bg. 3.9]
Where is Rudra-yajña?
[Bengali or Hindi]
HARIKEŚA: How does one stop cheating in a world of cheats?
This material world is meant for cheating.
You cheat, and others will cheat you.
That’s all.
This is material world.
It is not “how?”
If you inquire, “How it is cold?”
The season is cold.
There is no question of how.
The place is for cheating and cheaters.
So there is no question, “How it is cheating?”
- So you can’t stop the cold; you can’t stop the cheaters. - Yes.
No; yes, it is not possible.
But you can do everything by becoming Kṛṣṇa conscious.
That is the advantage of Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
Kṛṣṇa says,
ahaṁ tvāṁ sarva-pāpebhyo mokṣayiṣyāmi [Bg 18.66]
You cannot get out of sinful action, but Kṛṣṇa can do it.
Therefore He says, “I’ll get you released.”
You cannot get released, therefore He says, “I’ll do that.”
So bringing it to a practical platform…
Practical means it will be done by Kṛṣṇa.
Your only business is to surrender to Kṛṣṇa.
You cannot do anything.
And as soon as you think that “I shall be able to do it,” then you are a rascal.
Immediately you are rascal.
So only a fully surrendered soul
- can do everything perfectly. - Hm?
A fully surrendered soul is the only one who can do things perfectly.
He cannot do anything, even in his… Everything is to be done by Kṛṣṇa.
But he has to apply his intelligence by Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
Even if he is intelligent, he cannot do anything.
- Except surrender. - Yes.
He can surrender, and Kṛṣṇa will do everything.
You have to act very sincerely under the direction of Kṛṣṇa,
and then the war will be successful, as Arjuna did.
So imperfect activity is a sign of lack of surrender.
Yes. [break]
…avaśya rakṣibe kṛṣṇa.
rakṣiṣyati iti viśvāsa-pālanam [Śaraṇāgati]
You work sincerely, devoutly,
and have faith that “Kṛṣṇa will save me from all dangers.”
rakṣiṣyati iti viśvāsa-pālanam [Śaraṇāgati]
“I have surrendered to Kṛṣṇa sincerely.
Now Kṛṣṇa will give me all protection.”
This faith, that is the beginning of devotional life, Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Faith.
So this faith, is this śraddhā or niṣṭha?
Śraddhā.
Beginning, śraddhā.
Then, when he is advanced, then he becomes fixed up.
“Yes, Kṛṣṇa is protecting me.” [break]
…[indistinct] here is some goddess Kali, and nobody is living here.
No, and then they worship in that temple.
That’s a temple there.
Oh, Hare Kṛṣṇa.
No, the road is, [indistinct], gate is closed. [break]
People in general, they take that,
“There is no God, and if there is God, He is now dead.”
This is general impression.
There is one nice thing I saw on one wall.
It says, “God is dead”; Nietzche.
And then right underneath it somebody wrote,
“Nietzche is dead”; God.
Nietzche?
Nietzche means?
- Nietzche, that philosopher. - Ah.
- He was the one who first… - Hare Kṛṣṇa, Jaya, Yes.
Nietzche first brought up the philosophy of “Everything is nothing,”
for the Western people; “It’s all nothing; it all ultimately boils down to nothing.
- So there is no possibility of God.” - Śūnyavādī, Śūnyavādī.
That is śūnyavādī.
Nirviśeṣa-śūnyavādī.
Śūnyavādī, they say, “There is no God, and there is nothing, fact.
Everything is combination of some illusory things.”
This is śūnyavādī.
And the Māyāvādī, they say, “Yes, there is God, but He has no form.”
Therefore we have to kill both of them.
nirviśeṣa-śūnyavādi -pāścātya-deśa-tāriṇe [Srila Prabhupada Pranati]
The whole Western world are filled up with these śūnyavādi and impersonalists.
India is also, nowadays,
but there are, still there are devotees, in the ācārya-sampradāya.
They are fighting against śunyavāda and nirviśeṣa.
- In South India there are. - Huh?
- I in… I think in South India a lot of the Rāmānuja followers there. - Yes. [break]
AKṢAYĀNANDA: If everything was void, then there would be no hope for living.
So might as well die.
No.
By combination, permutation, you create, and if you don’t want it,
then avoid this combination. [break]
Even in four o’clock time, visiting, if he comes at four o’clock,
you let him come in. [break]
…Gurukula we require teachers for teaching the small children.
So our, these girls, they cannot take this charge of teaching?
Yes, one is already teaching now.
- One is already teaching children now, one girl. - Who is he?
- She is un-initiated. - British girl.
Her name is Ruth; she’s English.
Every afternoon she teaches the children.
Indian?
- No - No, English.
GOPĀLA KṚṢṆA: There’s also one in Bombay.
She used to be a public school teacher in England.
After the school is open she can come over here.
And there’s one, there’s one in Māyāpur, but she’s teaching in Māyāpur.
- Similarly, other girls, they can take up this. - Yes. [break]
…our guest.
Because somebody is guest, paying guest,
therefore we shall admit anyone in any kind of dress?
No.
We don’t admit people who look like hippies or something.
That girl, I told her she had to wear a sari.
And she did for some time, but then again she stopped.
- And that I am speaking, - Yes.
- that svā yadi kriyate rājā - Due to habit.
sa kiṁ nāśnāty upānaham [Hitopadeśa]
That is the difficulty.
It will be very bad example.
People will think that… They are already thinking that “These are all hippies.”
That will minimize the prestige of the temple. [break]
Jaipuria House they do not allow any hippies.
- You know that? - Yes. - Yes.
Jaipuria does not allow any foreigners at all.
They don’t allow any foreigners at all, even if somebody is decently dressed.
One boy came a couple of weeks ago.
He had long hair.
But the next day he came back and shaved up.
He’s a devotee now.
He’s doing nicely.
That’s nice.
So they will still come.
They can become devotees.
It’s all right then.
Hare Kṛṣṇa.
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