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MW VRN 1975-12-03 Voidists, Impersonalists
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ANNOUNCER: Next is a
morning walk conversation,
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with His Divine Grace
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
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recorded on December 3rd,
1975, in Vṛndāvana, India.
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PRABHUPĀDA: Kṛṣṇa
says everything practical.
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He never says that “You press your
nose and everything will come.”
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He never said like that.
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“Become a yogi by pressing your
nose, and keep your head downward,
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and then you’ll become perfect
and everything will come.”
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He never says.
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And Arjuna also never
accepts anything impractical.
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That is Bhagavad-gītā.
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As soon as Kṛṣṇa said that,
“You practice yoga by this way”,
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“immediately Kṛṣṇa said”, “My dear
Kṛṣṇa it is not possible, for me.
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I cannot control my mind.”
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vāyor iva su-duṣkaram
[Bg. 6.34]
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“It is impossible as
to control the air.”
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If somebody says, “I
shall control the air…”
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So these things are there in
the Bhagavad-gītā, all practical.
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Kṛṣṇa was accepted
the Supreme Lord
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by His practical instruction
and practical features.
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They are not following
Kṛṣṇa’s instruction.
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That is the difficulty. [break]
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What is going on here?
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Private.
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Huh?
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INDIAN MAN: Rudra-yajña
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Somebody is exploiting.
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Rudra-yajña. [break]
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…any mention of Rudra-yajña?
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In the Bhagavad-gītā,
the word is yajña.
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yajñārthāt karmaṇo ’nyatra
[Bg. 3.9]
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Where is Rudra-yajña?
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[Bengali or Hindi]
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HARIKEŚA: How does one stop
cheating in a world of cheats?
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This material world is
meant for cheating.
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You cheat, and
others will cheat you.
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That’s all.
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This is material world.
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It is not “how?”
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If you inquire, “How it is cold?”
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The season is cold.
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There is no question of how.
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The place is for
cheating and cheaters.
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So there is no question,
“How it is cheating?”
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- So you can’t stop the cold;
you can’t stop the cheaters.
- Yes.
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No; yes, it is not possible.
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But you can do everything by
becoming Kṛṣṇa conscious.
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That is the advantage
of Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
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Kṛṣṇa says,
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ahaṁ tvāṁ sarva-pāpebhyo
mokṣayiṣyāmi
[Bg 18.66]
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You cannot get out of sinful
action, but Kṛṣṇa can do it.
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Therefore He says,
“I’ll get you released.”
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You cannot get released,
therefore He says, “I’ll do that.”
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So bringing it to a
practical platform…
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Practical means it will
be done by Kṛṣṇa.
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Your only business is
to surrender to Kṛṣṇa.
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You cannot do anything.
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And as soon as you think that “I shall
be able to do it,” then you are a rascal.
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Immediately you are rascal.
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So only a fully surrendered soul
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- can do everything perfectly.
- Hm?
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A fully surrendered soul is the only
one who can do things perfectly.
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He cannot do anything, even in his…
Everything is to be done by Kṛṣṇa.
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But he has to apply his intelligence
by Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
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Even if he is intelligent,
he cannot do anything.
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- Except surrender.
- Yes.
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He can surrender, and
Kṛṣṇa will do everything.
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You have to act very sincerely
under the direction of Kṛṣṇa,
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and then the war will be
successful, as Arjuna did.
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So imperfect activity is a
sign of lack of surrender.
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Yes. [break]
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…avaśya rakṣibe kṛṣṇa.
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rakṣiṣyati iti viśvāsa-pālanam
[Śaraṇāgati]
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You work sincerely, devoutly,
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and have faith that “Kṛṣṇa will
save me from all dangers.”
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rakṣiṣyati iti viśvāsa-pālanam
[Śaraṇāgati]
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“I have surrendered
to Kṛṣṇa sincerely.
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Now Kṛṣṇa will give
me all protection.”
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This faith, that is the beginning
of devotional life, Hare Kṛṣṇa.
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Faith.
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So this faith, is this
śraddhā or niṣṭha?
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Śraddhā.
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Beginning, śraddhā.
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Then, when he is advanced,
then he becomes fixed up.
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“Yes, Kṛṣṇa is
protecting me.” [break]
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…[indistinct] here is some goddess
Kali, and nobody is living here.
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No, and then they
worship in that temple.
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That’s a temple there.
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Oh, Hare Kṛṣṇa.
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No, the road is, [indistinct],
gate is closed. [break]
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People in general, they take that,
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“There is no God, and if there
is God, He is now dead.”
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This is general impression.
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There is one nice thing
I saw on one wall.
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It says, “God is dead”; Nietzche.
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And then right underneath
it somebody wrote,
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“Nietzche is dead”; God.
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Nietzche?
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Nietzche means?
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- Nietzche, that philosopher.
- Ah.
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- He was the one who first…
- Hare Kṛṣṇa, Jaya, Yes.
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Nietzche first brought up the
philosophy of “Everything is nothing,”
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for the Western people; “It’s all nothing;
it all ultimately boils down to nothing.
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- So there is no possibility of God.”
- Śūnyavādī, Śūnyavādī.
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That is śūnyavādī.
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Nirviśeṣa-śūnyavādī.
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Śūnyavādī, they say, “There is no
God, and there is nothing, fact.
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Everything is combination
of some illusory things.”
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This is śūnyavādī.
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And the Māyāvādī, they say, “Yes,
there is God, but He has no form.”
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Therefore we have
to kill both of them.
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nirviśeṣa-śūnyavādi
-pāścātya-deśa-tāriṇe
[Srila Prabhupada Pranati]
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The whole Western world are filled up
with these śūnyavādi and impersonalists.
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India is also, nowadays,
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but there are, still there are
devotees, in the ācārya-sampradāya.
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They are fighting against
śunyavāda and nirviśeṣa.
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- In South India there are.
- Huh?
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- I in… I think in South India a lot of
the Rāmānuja followers there.
- Yes. [break]
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AKṢAYĀNANDA: If everything was void,
then there would be no hope for living.
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So might as well die.
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No.
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By combination, permutation, you
create, and if you don’t want it,
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then avoid this
combination. [break]
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Even in four o’clock time, visiting,
if he comes at four o’clock,
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you let him come in. [break]
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…Gurukula we require teachers
for teaching the small children.
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So our, these girls, they cannot
take this charge of teaching?
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Yes, one is already teaching now.
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- One is already teaching children
now, one girl.
- Who is he?
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- She is un-initiated.
- British girl.
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Her name is Ruth; she’s English.
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Every afternoon she
teaches the children.
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Indian?
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- No
- No, English.
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GOPĀLA KṚṢṆA: There’s
also one in Bombay.
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She used to be a public
school teacher in England.
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After the school is open
she can come over here.
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And there’s one, there’s one in Māyāpur,
but she’s teaching in Māyāpur.
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- Similarly, other girls,
they can take up this.
- Yes. [break]
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…our guest.
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Because somebody is
guest, paying guest,
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therefore we shall admit
anyone in any kind of dress?
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No.
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We don’t admit people who
look like hippies or something.
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That girl, I told her
she had to wear a sari.
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And she did for some time,
but then again she stopped.
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- And that I am speaking,
- Yes.
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- that svā yadi kriyate rājā
- Due to habit.
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sa kiṁ nāśnāty upānaham
[Hitopadeśa]
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That is the difficulty.
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It will be very bad example.
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People will think that… They are already
thinking that “These are all hippies.”
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That will minimize the
prestige of the temple. [break]
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Jaipuria House they do
not allow any hippies.
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- You know that?
- Yes.
- Yes.
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Jaipuria does not allow
any foreigners at all.
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They don’t allow any foreigners at all,
even if somebody is decently dressed.
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One boy came a
couple of weeks ago.
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He had long hair.
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But the next day he came
back and shaved up.
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He’s a devotee now.
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He’s doing nicely.
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That’s nice.
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So they will still come.
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They can become devotees.
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It’s all right then.
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Hare Kṛṣṇa.
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