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RC AUC 1976-04-27 Wildcats and Special Rascals
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ANNOUNCER: The following is a
conversation with with His Divine Grace
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A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
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recorded on the 27th of April,
1976, in Auckland, New Zealand.
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GURU−KṚPA: Śrīla Prabhupāda, for the abhiṣeka,
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do we require cow urine and
cow dung and tail of cow? Is it…
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PRABHUPĀDA: If available, not?
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- DEVOTEE (1): Yes, we can get it. It’s available.
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PUṢṬA KṚṢṆA: They’re feeling
threatened by our kīrtana parties.
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Who?
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He said that some of the town councils
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are trying to pass laws against
our chanting in the streets.
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DEVOTEE (2): The Christians are behind it in Whangarei.
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So, can they pass such law?
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I don’t think so. We’re having….
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Some of our men are going to meet with the council
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the day after tomorrow at the meeting.
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They’re open to our side.
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The reason is that the businessmen have complained,
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some of the businessmen have complained.
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Not all of them. You take some
signature from other businessmen.
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Yes, all right.
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You present that.
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Yes.
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The men who are going to speak
are businessmen, devotees.
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One is an architect.
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Then he can organize so many signatures.
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One is a restaurant owner,
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and one has a hairdressing salon.
And they’re going to speak…
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Everyone is… likes; that’s a fact.
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We gave the argument before
that they say it is a disturbance,
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but there are so many cars and
airplanes which are making disturbance.
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They should also be stopped.
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Last week we wrote letters to the
newspaper, and they published them,
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showing our view.
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And in Whangarei…. It’s another
city, a hundred miles from here.
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It’s near the farm up north,
and the devotees chant there.
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And the businessmen complained.
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And the devotees wrote a letter
criticizing the materialistic businessmen,
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and that they didn’t care for the
people, only they wanted money.
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And they printed it this big in the
newspaper, completely criticizing,
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and the people liked it.
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They put it in everything, word
for word what the devotees said.
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So it was good.
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So there is agitation against chanting. That is also good.
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Yes, “Hare Kṛṣṇa is bad.” [laughs]
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They don’t want to be bothered with Hare Kṛṣṇa.
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Huh?
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They don’t want to be bothered with Hare Kṛṣṇa.
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Go on with their hellish life.
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So we want that.
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Let them chant Hare Kṛṣṇa
somehow or other. [devotees laugh]
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“We don’t want to be bothered by Hare Kṛṣṇa.”
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That means chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa.
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Because our kīrtana party now, we have…
Um. We go on kīrtana, eighty men.
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We go two nights a week with eighty men.
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Huge kīrtana with five mṛdaṅgas and guitars,
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and we get huge crowd from the whole street.
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That will make you triumphant.
Go on kīrtana. That is very nice.
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Kīrtana, and book distribution. This is also kīrtana.
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GURU−KṚPĀ: This is bṛhad mṛdaṅga.
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Yes. So do it enthusiastically. Keep yourself pure.
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Nobody will be able to do any harm to you.
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Kṛṣṇa will give you protection. So? [splice]
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Ghee is cheaper in New Zealand than in Australia.
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Anyway, first of all arrange for selling.
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I’ve already sent off the letter.
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And you can disvertise it from
New Zealand or from Australia.
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There can be very peaceful
condition of the whole world.
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Simply mismanaged by the rascal leaders.
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Otherwise, people can live very
peacefully, eat sumptuously, save time,
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and there is no necessity of stopping
the—I mean to say—bare necessities of life.
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There is arrangement for eating, sleeping, sex life also.
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But not like fools and rascals.
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Like sane man.
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But this modern civilization,
it is insane, crazy civilization.
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There is little pleasure in sex life—simply sex
life, increase sex life, spoiling everything.
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That is crazy.
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Eating—eat anything, any nonsense
thing, and become a hog.
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Sleeping—oḥ, there is no limit, twenty-
four hours sleeping if it is possible.
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Go on, this is going on.
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Eating, sleeping, mating.
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And defense—and discover atomic
weapon, this weapon, that weapon,
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and kill innocent persons, unnecessarily, defense.
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This is going on.
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But everything can be used
properly for peaceful condition,
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and when you become peaceful, no disturbance,
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then you can very happily chant Hare
Kṛṣṇa and your life becomes successful.
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This is our program.
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We don’t want to stop anything.
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How it can be stopped?
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Whatever is the bare neces….
Just like we have taken sannyāsa.
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What is that?
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“Oh, we have no sex life only.
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Otherwise, we are also eating, we are also sleeping.”
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So that is also stopped in good old age.
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In old age, if a person like me,
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at the age of eighty years, if I
would have shopped for sex life,
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does it look very good?
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Young men, they are allowed. That’s all right.
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But a young…, old man is going to the club
and spending for sex life so much money.
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Therefore younger generation,
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they’re allowed gṛhastha life from
twenty-five years to fifty years. That’s all.
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After that, stop sex life.
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Actually, they want to stop population.
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Then why there sex, then?
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No, they’ll have sex life, at the same
time, no population, kill the children.
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What is that?
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Simply sinful life.
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They will suffer, continue to suffer.
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So we want to stop that suffering.
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These rascals, they do not understand.
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They think, “Hare Kṛṣṇa movement is disturbing.”
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A rascal civilization.
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So let us try our best. What can be done?
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You also helping in this movement.
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So don’t spoil the movement by manufacturing ideas.
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Don’t do that.
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Go on in the standard way, keep yourself pure;
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then movement is sure to be successful.
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But if you want to spoil it by
[indistinct], then what can be done?
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It will be spoiled.
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If you manufacture whims and
disagree and fight amongst yourself,
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then it will be another edition
of these so-called movements.
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It will lose the spiritual strength.
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Always remember it. You cannot….
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Now, actually, people are surprised:
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“What this Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra has got
power that it is changing so quickly?”
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And on the other hand, it is to be admitted,
unless it has got power, how it is changing?
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So we have to keep that power.
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Don’t make it an ordinary musical vibration.
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It is a different thing, spiritual.
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Although it seems like musical
vibration, but it is spiritual, completely.
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Mantrauṣadhi-vaśaḥ.
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Even, by mantra, the snakes can be charmed.
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So mantra is not ordinary sound vibration.
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So we have to keep the mantra in potency, potent,
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by offenseless chanting, by remaining pure.
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If you pollute the mantra, then
it will lose its effect. [splice]
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Hmm.
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Concerning the temple, Śrīla Prabhupāda,
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I talked to some boys, and the one boy,
Dhūmya[?], he used to be in Australia,
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he made a fifteen-foot-high Lord Caitanya.
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Do you remember at the Ratha-yātrā?
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Hmm. Hmm.
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And we’re going to build a temple
with nice domes, Indian style,
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and with sculpture like the elephant heads…
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Make in Vṛndāvana style.
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Yes. I’ll get pictures of the different…
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There is that big dome and….
You have seen Vṛndāvana?
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I have seen it just before it was
finished, not since it was completed.
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Oh.
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But I’ve seen pictures.
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I think we have got pictures.
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And the place where we’re going to put it,
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you’ll be able to see it for miles. It’ll be a landmark.
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That’s nice.
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You can see it for many miles.
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Not only one, you hundreds of temples construct.
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Village to village, town to….
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At the same time, man.
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And it will revolutionize the whole rascal situation.
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At the present moment, it is rascal situation.
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They’re simply satisfied by driving the
motor… A putputputputputputputputput!
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They are thinking, “Oh, how highly I am…” All crazy.
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But this has been taught to
them that “This is civilization.
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If you have got a motorcycle and
you can come like the wild cat,
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then you are civilized.”
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They are thinking how great civilized they
are; we are thinking how wild cat he is.
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And what is the difference between wild
cat and running dog and this motorcycle?
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Put-put? What is the difference?
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Nothing.
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And they’re taking it, highly civilized way of life.
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Where you are going?
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You cannot go beyond this earth.
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You attempted so much to go
to the moon planet, you failed.
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And where you can go, put-put-put-put?
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You’ll have to stay here.
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But the rascal does not understand.
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He thinks, “I am going very fast.” Where you are going?
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You are destined to stay here.
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That he does not understand.
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Not only this put-put motorcycle,
the put-put airplane also.
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They’re also trying to go to this planet around, round.
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That sputnik, first sputnik, eighteen thousand miles,
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and they simply rounded over the world
in one hour and twenty-five minutes.
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And where did you go?
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And when he’s tired, then come down again.
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They cannot understand, these so-called
scientists, that we cannot go in this way.
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There is higher authority. Why
it will allow us to go anywhere?
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Just like the horse running fast, but
within the race course. That’s all.
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It cannot go beyond the race course.
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And similarly, however heroic expedition
we may show, you are, what is called,
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baddha-jīva, conditioned.
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You cannot cross the condition, that is not possible.
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Ahaṅkāra-vimūḍhātmā kartāham iti manyate [Bg. 3.27].
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A rascal, on account of his false prestige, he is thinking,
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“Oh, I am independent. I can do whatever I like.”
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Vimūḍhātmā, foolish, rascal. Mūḍha, not.
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Vimūḍha, “especially the rascal, a special rascal.”
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Ordinary rascal is better than the special rascal.
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So all these scientists, philosophers, and
political leaders, they’re all special rascal,
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they are.
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Vimūḍha.
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Ordinary man, they’re simply rascal,
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and these rascals are special rascals.
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Vimūḍhā nānupaśyanti paśyanti
jñāna-cakṣuṣaḥ [Bg. 15.10].
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Hmm.
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So don’t be vimūḍhas. Better remain mūḍha.
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Not special rascal.
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