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RC DEL 1973-11-01 These Miseries Will Follow You

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ANNOUNCER: The
following is a conversation,

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with His Divine Grace
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,

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recorded on the 1st of
November, 1973 in Delhi, India.

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PRABHUPĀDA: <i>…gatvā
duḥkhānusaṅgaminaḥ</i>. [?]

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There is misery.

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Even you go to the Moon
planet… This is Bhāgavata.

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Before going to your Moon
planet here is the information:

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“Anywhere you go rascal
these things will follow,

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<i>janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi</i>
and inconveniences.

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You’ll have to suffer.”

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So one is he… One who is intelligent,
then, “Where shall I find real happiness?”

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Oh that is Kṛṣṇa.

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Therefore one requires to be very, very
intelligent to become Kṛṣṇa conscious.

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<i>Sarva</i>,<i> sarvatra bhasananvita</i> [?].

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The Śrīdhara Svāmī gives
note, <i>sarvatra lokāntare ’pi</i> [?].

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Even if you go to other planets…

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Now these rascals are going
now, trying, not going.

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And the Bhāgavata
says, <i>lokāntare ’pi</i>.

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Even in other planets.

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Therefore, they were
going in other planets.

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Otherwise how it is stated,
<i>lokāntare</i>, “in other planets also?”

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From the statement it appears
that people used to go.

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And here, Arjuna went
to heavenly planet.

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And there the…

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She’s prostitute.

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So when Arjuna refused, that…

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- His father is Indra…
BRAHMĀNANDA: Yes.

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So Arjuna said that “You have
connection with my father.

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Therefore you are my mother.”

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ŚRUTAKĪRTI: You mentioned him in
the <i>Caitanya-caritāmṛta</i> purport.

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When one yogi was
performing severe austerities,

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Lord Indra would send
the dancing girls.

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- They were called…
PRABHUPĀDA: Yes. <i>Apsarās</i>.

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Yes.

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- He would send…
- The same thing here.

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Just like prostitute, they
are going to the club.

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The father is going
also; the son is going.

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And the prostitute is the same.

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Everywhere, this material
happiness, wine, women…

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I think there this… That
boy, Ranchor, his father…

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“You leave Kṛṣṇa consciousness and
I will give you a car and women.”

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Yes.

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Your father also said like that.

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Here father will feel
shame to advise the son,

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or the son will feel shame to talk
about sex with father or mother.

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Yes.

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About sex one can talk with
friends, not with father and mother.

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But in western countries
it is very open talk.

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And open business also.

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<i>Sarvatra</i>.

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<i>Sarvatra lokāntare ’pi vasanavagatya iha
duḥkhānusaṅghanena nivṛtta-kāma</i> [?].

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So one should give up this
material sense gratification.

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The more you become entangled
in material sense gratification,

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more you’ll have to remain
in this material world.

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<i>Iti tiprokti malakam uktaṁ
kāma karma prokta gena iti</i>,

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<i>ahaṁ deva upasya
yesantai saṅghata</i>

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<i>nirvaira adrstitvaṁ
samyag anvasya duḥkha</i>,

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<i>sukha-duḥkha eva</i>,<i>
sukha-duḥkha…</i>[?].

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<i>Vīrarāghavācārya</i>: <i>Deha-geha-gehayoḥ
ātmiya buddhiḥ jihasaya tyāgecchāya</i> [?].

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<i>Ātma-buddhi</i>, this family,
society, friendship and love.

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Yes.

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Feel very much
affection… What is called?

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Attached; <i>tyāgecchā</i>;
it should be given up.

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Therefore the <i>sannyāsa āśrama</i>.

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Just try to deliver this message.

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Everyone is in darkness.

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Therefore I was speaking.

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They do not know what is <i>siddhi</i>.

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- Yesterday, you were present? Yes?
- Oh, yes.

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They do not know what is <i>siddhi</i>.

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What is perfection of
life, they do not know.

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Neither they have information.

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Simply they talk about it.

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All foolish.

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<i>andhā yathāndhair upanīyamānāḥ</i>
[SB 7.5.31]

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Blind man leading
other blind men.

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There is no sense.

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Whole civilization, it is…

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This Kṛṣṇa [consciousness] movement
is a challenge to everyone,

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a challenge, genuine challenge.

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After all, everyone wants happiness, but
they do not know what is happiness.

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<i>Sarvatra vyasanad apy atra…</i> [?].

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Now here, as soon as we came, we
thought it very nice, and immediately…

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So many things.

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<i>Vyasanad apy atra</i>.

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Wherever you go, even though you
found it is very convenient, very nice,

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you must know there is,
there is inconvenience.

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Don’t be so sure that
it is full of nice things.

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No.

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That is not possible.

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<i>Sarvatra vyasanad api</i> [?].

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