0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:15,670 RC DEL 1973-11-01 These Miseries Will Follow You 1 00:00:15,671 --> 00:00:17,843 ANNOUNCER: The following is a conversation, 2 00:00:17,844 --> 00:00:23,406 with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, 3 00:00:23,407 --> 00:00:46,797 recorded on the 1st of November, 1973 in Delhi, India. 4 00:00:46,798 --> 00:00:49,866 PRABHUPĀDA: …gatvā duḥkhānusaṅgaminaḥ. [?] 5 00:00:49,867 --> 00:00:51,718 There is misery. 6 00:00:51,719 --> 00:00:54,972 Even you go to the Moon planet… This is Bhāgavata. 7 00:00:54,973 --> 00:00:58,210 Before going to your Moon planet here is the information: 8 00:00:58,211 --> 00:01:02,046 “Anywhere you go rascal these things will follow, 9 00:01:02,047 --> 00:01:06,024 janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi and inconveniences. 10 00:01:06,025 --> 00:01:09,132 You’ll have to suffer.” 11 00:01:09,133 --> 00:01:14,375 So one is he… One who is intelligent, then, “Where shall I find real happiness?” 12 00:01:14,376 --> 00:01:16,295 Oh that is Kṛṣṇa. 13 00:01:16,296 --> 00:01:20,598 Therefore one requires to be very, very intelligent to become Kṛṣṇa conscious. 14 00:01:20,599 --> 00:01:23,603 Sarva, sarvatra bhasananvita [?]. 15 00:01:23,604 --> 00:01:30,064 The Śrīdhara Svāmī gives note, sarvatra lokāntare ’pi [?]. 16 00:01:30,065 --> 00:01:32,550 Even if you go to other planets… 17 00:01:32,551 --> 00:01:37,281 Now these rascals are going now, trying, not going. 18 00:01:37,282 --> 00:01:39,771 And the Bhāgavata says, lokāntare ’pi. 19 00:01:39,772 --> 00:01:40,643 Even in other planets. 20 00:01:40,644 --> 00:01:43,810 Therefore, they were going in other planets. 21 00:01:43,811 --> 00:01:48,728 Otherwise how it is stated, lokāntare, “in other planets also?” 22 00:01:48,729 --> 00:01:51,841 From the statement it appears that people used to go. 23 00:01:51,842 --> 00:01:56,610 And here, Arjuna went to heavenly planet. 24 00:01:56,611 --> 00:01:59,918 And there the… 25 00:01:59,919 --> 00:02:02,957 She’s prostitute. 26 00:02:02,958 --> 00:02:06,951 So when Arjuna refused, that… 27 00:02:06,952 --> 00:02:10,650 - His father is Indra… BRAHMĀNANDA: Yes. 28 00:02:10,651 --> 00:02:13,985 So Arjuna said that “You have connection with my father. 29 00:02:13,986 --> 00:02:17,018 Therefore you are my mother.” 30 00:02:17,019 --> 00:02:20,914 ŚRUTAKĪRTI: You mentioned him in the Caitanya-caritāmṛta purport. 31 00:02:20,915 --> 00:02:24,794 When one yogi was performing severe austerities, 32 00:02:24,795 --> 00:02:28,394 Lord Indra would send the dancing girls. 33 00:02:28,395 --> 00:02:30,783 - They were called… PRABHUPĀDA: Yes. Apsarās. 34 00:02:30,784 --> 00:02:32,150 Yes. 35 00:02:32,151 --> 00:02:34,812 - He would send… - The same thing here. 36 00:02:34,813 --> 00:02:39,557 Just like prostitute, they are going to the club. 37 00:02:39,558 --> 00:02:42,477 The father is going also; the son is going. 38 00:02:42,478 --> 00:02:44,371 And the prostitute is the same. 39 00:02:44,372 --> 00:02:49,898 Everywhere, this material happiness, wine, women… 40 00:02:49,899 --> 00:02:54,041 I think there this… That boy, Ranchor, his father… 41 00:02:54,042 --> 00:02:58,143 “You leave Kṛṣṇa consciousness and I will give you a car and women.” 42 00:02:58,144 --> 00:02:59,133 Yes. 43 00:02:59,134 --> 00:03:05,773 Your father also said like that. 44 00:03:05,774 --> 00:03:10,432 Here father will feel shame to advise the son, 45 00:03:10,433 --> 00:03:15,247 or the son will feel shame to talk about sex with father or mother. 46 00:03:15,248 --> 00:03:16,548 Yes. 47 00:03:16,549 --> 00:03:21,476 About sex one can talk with friends, not with father and mother. 48 00:03:21,477 --> 00:03:27,706 But in western countries it is very open talk. 49 00:03:27,707 --> 00:03:31,580 And open business also. 50 00:03:31,581 --> 00:03:32,892 Sarvatra. 51 00:03:32,893 --> 00:03:43,067 Sarvatra lokāntare ’pi vasanavagatya iha duḥkhānusaṅghanena nivṛtta-kāma [?]. 52 00:03:43,068 --> 00:03:49,702 So one should give up this material sense gratification. 53 00:03:49,703 --> 00:03:53,303 The more you become entangled in material sense gratification, 54 00:03:53,304 --> 00:03:57,669 more you’ll have to remain in this material world. 55 00:03:57,670 --> 00:04:04,495 Iti tiprokti malakam uktaṁ kāma karma prokta gena iti, 56 00:04:04,496 --> 00:04:10,163 ahaṁ deva upasya yesantai saṅghata 57 00:04:10,164 --> 00:04:18,255 nirvaira adrstitvaṁ samyag anvasya duḥkha, 58 00:04:18,256 --> 00:04:25,346 sukha-duḥkha eva, sukha-duḥkha…[?]. 59 00:04:25,347 --> 00:04:37,008 Vīrarāghavācārya: Deha-geha-gehayoḥ ātmiya buddhiḥ jihasaya tyāgecchāya [?]. 60 00:04:37,009 --> 00:04:43,992 Ātma-buddhi, this family, society, friendship and love. 61 00:04:43,993 --> 00:04:45,293 Yes. 62 00:04:45,294 --> 00:04:50,553 Feel very much affection… What is called? 63 00:04:50,554 --> 00:04:57,385 Attached; tyāgecchā; it should be given up. 64 00:04:57,386 --> 00:05:00,901 Therefore the sannyāsa āśrama. 65 00:05:00,902 --> 00:05:05,834 Just try to deliver this message. 66 00:05:05,835 --> 00:05:09,892 Everyone is in darkness. 67 00:05:09,893 --> 00:05:11,398 Therefore I was speaking. 68 00:05:11,399 --> 00:05:15,216 They do not know what is siddhi. 69 00:05:15,217 --> 00:05:18,314 - Yesterday, you were present? Yes? - Oh, yes. 70 00:05:18,315 --> 00:05:20,271 They do not know what is siddhi. 71 00:05:20,272 --> 00:05:22,911 What is perfection of life, they do not know. 72 00:05:22,912 --> 00:05:25,575 Neither they have information. 73 00:05:25,576 --> 00:05:28,165 Simply they talk about it. 74 00:05:28,166 --> 00:05:29,670 All foolish. 75 00:05:29,671 --> 00:05:32,515 andhā yathāndhair upanīyamānāḥ [SB 7.5.31] 76 00:05:32,516 --> 00:05:35,356 Blind man leading other blind men. 77 00:05:35,357 --> 00:05:38,263 There is no sense. 78 00:05:38,264 --> 00:05:39,286 Whole civilization, it is… 79 00:05:39,287 --> 00:05:45,189 This Kṛṣṇa [consciousness] movement is a challenge to everyone, 80 00:05:45,190 --> 00:05:50,933 a challenge, genuine challenge. 81 00:05:50,934 --> 00:05:58,634 After all, everyone wants happiness, but they do not know what is happiness. 82 00:05:58,635 --> 00:06:06,600 Sarvatra vyasanad apy atra… [?]. 83 00:06:06,601 --> 00:06:11,804 Now here, as soon as we came, we thought it very nice, and immediately… 84 00:06:11,805 --> 00:06:14,153 So many things. 85 00:06:14,154 --> 00:06:17,505 Vyasanad apy atra. 86 00:06:17,506 --> 00:06:22,799 Wherever you go, even though you found it is very convenient, very nice, 87 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,681 you must know there is, there is inconvenience. 88 00:06:26,682 --> 00:06:32,740 Don’t be so sure that it is full of nice things. 89 00:06:32,741 --> 00:06:35,495 No. 90 00:06:35,496 --> 00:06:36,965 That is not possible. 91 00:06:36,966 --> 00:06:46,441 Sarvatra vyasanad api [?]. 92 00:06:46,442 --> 00:06:46,443 Subtitles by Pratyatoṣa Dāsa, Causelessmercy.com