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RC LA 1975-06-25 God Is As Sure As Death
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ANNOUNCER: The
following is a conversation,
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with His Divine Grace
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
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recorded on the 25th of June,
1975, in Los Angeles, California.
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PRABHUPĀDA: …the tenant thinks
that “This apartment is mine:
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I am owner;” then he is wrong.
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If he knows perfectly well that
it belongs to the landlord,
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“I have given for use,”
then it is knowledge.
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DR. WOLF: Śrīla Prabhupāda, and
the tenant can be easily evicted.
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Yes.
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Evicted.
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At that time he knows the owner.
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When he is kicked out.
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That is stated also in
the Bhagavad-gītā.
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mṛtyuḥ sarva-haraś cāham
[Bg. 10.34]
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Those who are not believing in God, to
them God will come one day as death,
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“Now believe Me. Get out!”
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Finished.
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All your pride finished.
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Your pride, your
property, your family,
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your bank balance, your
skyscraper building—
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all taken away.
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“Finished. Get out.”
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This is God.
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Now understand God?
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To believe or not believe,
God will come one day.
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He will take you, take your
everything, and “Get out!”
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That is God.
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You believe or not believe.
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It doesn’t matter.
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The same example: the tenant
may not believe the landlord,
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but when the landlord will
come with court’s order:
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“Get out,” then you
have to go out.
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That is stated in
the Bhagavad-gītā,
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that, “Those who are
not believer in God,
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to them I come as death
and take away everything.”
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Then one has to believe,
“Yes, as sure as death.”
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Then God is sure.
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You may challenge so long you
have got little life for a few years,
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but God will come and drive you
away from your present pride,
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prestigious position, “Get out.”
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So unless one is madman, he
cannot say, “There is no God.”
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Anyone who denies the existence
of God, he is a madman.
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DR. WOLFE: Prabhupāda, wouldn’t it be
better to say he is blind, he is stupid?
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Yes, the same thing.
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Mad is the sum
total of all stupidity.
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When I say mad, it is the sum
total of all kinds of stupidity.
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BAHULĀŚVA: Śrīla Prabhupāda,
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when would you like to speak
to Dr. Judah about the college?
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Whenever he finds convenient.
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I am always ready.
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DR. JUDAH: The college?
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Yes.
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Well, I understand you are interested
in founding a college, and ah…
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Everyone should be interested.
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Yes.
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And I’ve been… I’ve been trying to
get the particulars up in Berkeley
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concerning certain
possibilities and I,
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- of course, I just… I wrote to the…
- No, it is possibility.
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Just like you have got
this religious section,
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similarly, we can have
Vedic theological section.
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It’ll be a section department.
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Will this be ah… The idea of the
college that you have in mind,
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is this going to be an all-around college,
in other words teaching not only,
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you might say, Vaiṣṇavism, but also
we’ll say English and the other subjects?
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- Oh, yes.
- In other words, a liberal arts college,
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with a religious section in it.
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No.
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Just like your
association is graduate.
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So you accept
graduates to the Union?
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- Well, will this be…
- Just like law college.
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Law college, one joins
after graduation.
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Right. There are two types
of college programs.
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One is what we call the
undergraduate program,
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which is generally a four-year program
leading to a bachelor’s degree,
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and then there is the
graduate program,
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which one finds, particularly
here in the United States,
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in the… if one is
interested in religion,
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- in the seminaries, which are…
- If you have time some other time.
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- We have to go over the particulars.
- Sure. Right.
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So whenever you like.
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Day after tomorrow I am going.
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JAYATĪRTHA: Yes.
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I’ll be here tomorrow and tomorrow
afternoon I have to go back.
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Yes.
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So, in the morning.
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Yes. fine.
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So we can talk in detail.
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We showed Dr. Judah the press and all
the books, how they were published.
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He was very impressed.
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Yes. You seem to… You have…
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You have, it would seem, the very
latest knowledge of technology.
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They’re doing these things
by means of a computers,
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you know, and all of the
very highest technology.
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In fact, technology that I haven’t
seen in many publishing companies,
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and I have looked at a lot
of publishing companies.
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And this is the most advanced
technology I have ever seen in publishing.
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It’s amazing really.
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SVARŪPA: Beware, it’ll do you in.
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DEVOTEE: No, we
can use it for Kṛṣṇa.
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That is the important thing, as
long as we’re using it for Kṛṣṇa.
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This technology is also Kṛṣṇa’s
energy, material energy.
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That is Kṛṣṇa’s energy.
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And when the material energy is
utilized for Kṛṣṇa’s energy… I’ll take that.
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You can distribute.
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