0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,482 RC MAY 1977-02-16 The Secret of Safety 1 00:00:01,483 --> 00:00:03,184 ANNOUNCER: Next is a conversation, 2 00:00:03,185 --> 00:00:08,628 with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, 3 00:00:08,629 --> 00:00:16,127 recorded on February 16, 1977 in Māyāpura, India. 4 00:00:16,128 --> 00:00:18,458 PRABHUPĀDA: Kāma- Kṛṣṇa-kāmārpaṇe. 5 00:00:18,459 --> 00:00:22,621 For Kṛṣṇa’s service one should be mad. 6 00:00:22,622 --> 00:00:27,664 Kāma-krodha should be given up, but a bhakta does not give up. 7 00:00:27,665 --> 00:00:30,954 Utilize it. 8 00:00:30,955 --> 00:00:38,635 A bhakta should be very much kamut [?] for serving Kṛṣṇa. 9 00:00:38,636 --> 00:00:47,357 And he must utilize his anger for the bhakta-dveṣi, those who are not devotee. 10 00:00:47,358 --> 00:00:56,252 Kāma-Kṛṣṇa-kāmārpaṇe krodha bhakta-dveṣi-jane. [Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura’s Prema-bhakti-candrikā]. 11 00:00:56,253 --> 00:01:01,473 We have nothing to give up like Māyāvādī. 12 00:01:01,474 --> 00:01:07,175 Kāma, krodha, lobha, moha, mātsarya. 13 00:01:07,176 --> 00:01:13,463 Mātsarya may… That has to be… A bhakta cannot be envious. 14 00:01:13,464 --> 00:01:16,856 If [indistinct] is angry upon them, that is not envious. 15 00:01:16,857 --> 00:01:22,656 That is for good. 16 00:01:22,657 --> 00:01:26,070 A bhakta should not be envious. 17 00:01:26,071 --> 00:01:27,880 Otherwise how he can preach? 18 00:01:27,881 --> 00:01:31,182 He’s merciful. 19 00:01:31,183 --> 00:01:35,381 Even if he’s angry, he’s mercyful. 20 00:01:35,382 --> 00:01:38,974 Therefore this mātsarya has no use for bhakta. 21 00:01:38,975 --> 00:01:46,842 Other things, they have use, kāma, krodha, lobha, moha; not mātsarya. 22 00:01:46,843 --> 00:01:48,925 Mātsarya is very, very bad. 23 00:01:48,926 --> 00:02:14,295 - SATSVARŪPA: Envy? - Huh? Envy, yes. 24 00:02:14,296 --> 00:02:19,721 - So Panihati is hopeful, is not? - JAYAPATĀKĀ: Yes. 25 00:02:19,722 --> 00:02:22,499 If this MLA actually pushes it through, then in one month… 26 00:02:22,500 --> 00:02:27,290 - Is that MLA that gentleman is very intelligent? - Yes. 27 00:02:27,291 --> 00:02:28,532 Young man. 28 00:02:28,533 --> 00:02:31,332 - He’s ambitious. - Huh? 29 00:02:31,333 --> 00:02:32,452 Ambitious. 30 00:02:32,453 --> 00:02:36,007 Ambitious for Kṛṣṇa, everyone should be ambitious: 31 00:02:36,008 --> 00:02:38,115 “How I shall become a great devotee?” 32 00:02:38,116 --> 00:02:45,799 Ah, that is very good. Yes. 33 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:58,282 Again finger problem. 34 00:02:58,283 --> 00:03:02,921 Our electric is not working? 35 00:03:02,922 --> 00:03:08,340 Just see; in the evening, we… people want light. 36 00:03:08,341 --> 00:03:11,226 It works the whole day; only in the evening it goes off. 37 00:03:11,227 --> 00:03:13,220 Whole night also. 38 00:03:13,221 --> 00:03:25,239 Only evening, when you require it… 39 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,044 India’s material advancement is artificial. 40 00:03:29,045 --> 00:03:36,653 They are not fit for it. 41 00:03:36,654 --> 00:03:41,051 In America, so long, no electricity every day? 42 00:03:41,052 --> 00:03:42,250 People would become mad. 43 00:03:42,251 --> 00:03:45,852 There would [be] revolution. 44 00:03:45,853 --> 00:03:48,420 - Huh? Is it not? - Yes. 45 00:03:48,421 --> 00:03:52,466 HARI-ŚAURI: They had a blackout in New York once for an hour or so. 46 00:03:52,467 --> 00:03:55,089 - Yes, I know that. I was that time. - Oh, you were there. 47 00:03:55,090 --> 00:04:04,968 - Not hour. It was four hours. - Oh. Four hours. 48 00:04:04,969 --> 00:04:09,537 Unfortunately I was not out on the street. 49 00:04:09,538 --> 00:04:13,957 I was in my place. 50 00:04:13,958 --> 00:04:36,140 That accident took place just after few days of my arrival, 1965. 51 00:04:36,141 --> 00:04:43,230 One gentleman, he, I know, he brought me some candle. 52 00:04:43,231 --> 00:04:45,513 I had no candle even. 53 00:04:45,514 --> 00:04:48,969 Simply I was sitting in darkness. 54 00:04:48,970 --> 00:04:54,925 What can be done? 55 00:04:54,926 --> 00:05:10,264 And Kṛṣṇa sent him with some candle. 56 00:05:10,265 --> 00:05:17,081 Nine months after that incident they had a record number of births in New York. 57 00:05:17,082 --> 00:05:25,281 What can they do in darkness? 58 00:05:25,282 --> 00:05:33,183 That is the only engagement in darkness. 59 00:05:33,184 --> 00:05:35,176 They could have chanted Hare Kṛṣṇa. 60 00:05:35,177 --> 00:05:52,409 No… Even the Hare Kṛṣṇa people. 61 00:05:52,410 --> 00:05:57,386 Nāviviktāsano bhavet, mātrā svasrā duhitrā vā. [SB 9.19.17] 62 00:05:57,387 --> 00:06:00,363 It is strictly forbidden: 63 00:06:00,364 --> 00:06:03,238 “You should not sit alone even with your mother, 64 00:06:03,239 --> 00:06:08,467 sister or daughter, what to speak of wife.” 65 00:06:08,468 --> 00:06:12,149 balavān indriya-grāmo vidvāṁsam api karṣati [SB 9.19.17] 66 00:06:12,150 --> 00:06:16,519 “The senses are so strong, even learned persons, 67 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:21,520 advanced, they also become victimized.” 68 00:06:21,521 --> 00:06:23,128 balavän indriya-grämo [SB 9.19.17] 69 00:06:23,129 --> 00:06:26,400 Balavān means very strong. 70 00:06:26,401 --> 00:06:43,855 When the… [indistinct] forbidden even with mother, sister or… and daughter. 71 00:06:43,856 --> 00:06:43,857 Subtitles by Pratyatoṣa Dāsa, Causelessmercy.com