0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,501 RC NV 1976-06-24 You Enjoy and Forget Goal 1 00:00:01,502 --> 00:00:03,177 ANNOUNCER: Next is a conversation, 2 00:00:03,178 --> 00:00:08,429 with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, 3 00:00:08,430 --> 00:00:12,063 recorded on June 24th, 1976, 4 00:00:12,064 --> 00:00:19,520 at the New Vrindaban farm community in West Virginia. 5 00:00:19,521 --> 00:00:24,548 PRABHUPĀDA: In this life he is living very comfortably. 6 00:00:24,549 --> 00:00:34,143 Next life if I’m going to be a dog, then this is the charge. 7 00:00:34,144 --> 00:00:41,443 Now how this class of men will answer it? 8 00:00:41,444 --> 00:00:47,761 Can he deny that he’s not going to be [a] dog? 9 00:00:47,762 --> 00:00:49,524 KĪRTANĀNANDA: He says he doesn’t believe it. - Huh? 10 00:00:49,525 --> 00:00:53,067 - He says he doesn’t… - You believe or not believe. 11 00:00:53,068 --> 00:00:58,042 Just like this child, this boy, he does not know anything. 12 00:00:58,043 --> 00:01:00,914 But I know, his mother knows, 13 00:01:00,915 --> 00:01:04,747 his father knows that he’s going to be [a] young man. 14 00:01:04,748 --> 00:01:10,569 If he says, “No, I am not going to be [a] young man,” that is childish. 15 00:01:10,570 --> 00:01:13,582 That is childish. 16 00:01:13,583 --> 00:01:15,936 But, the father, mother, 17 00:01:15,937 --> 00:01:18,977 or friends know that this boy is going to grow [to be] young man, 18 00:01:18,978 --> 00:01:24,123 so he should be educated, and he should be properly situated. 19 00:01:24,124 --> 00:01:27,601 That is the guardian’s business. 20 00:01:27,602 --> 00:01:33,758 He doesn’t know. He doesn’t know. 21 00:01:33,759 --> 00:01:38,989 So that he doesn’t know, that does not mean it is fact. 22 00:01:38,990 --> 00:01:45,996 So similarly, if rascals say, “I don’t believe it,” that’s not a fact. 23 00:01:45,997 --> 00:01:54,137 He is a rascal, mad, he may say so, but that is not the fact. 24 00:01:54,138 --> 00:01:56,642 kāraṇaṁ guṇa-saṅgo 'sya [Bg. 13.22] 25 00:01:56,643 --> 00:02:03,814 The real fact is that he’ll have to accept a body 26 00:02:03,815 --> 00:02:08,761 according to the quality of development. 27 00:02:08,762 --> 00:02:10,961 But what if they say that, 28 00:02:10,962 --> 00:02:15,297 “Actually this life of growing the castor seed is very difficult, 29 00:02:15,298 --> 00:02:16,613 farming is very difficult. 30 00:02:16,614 --> 00:02:19,091 It is easier to go to the factory for eight hours, 31 00:02:19,092 --> 00:02:21,616 and then I come home with my money and I enjoy.” 32 00:02:21,617 --> 00:02:24,848 No, you enjoy, but by enjoying, 33 00:02:24,849 --> 00:02:30,203 if you forget your real business, is that intelligent? 34 00:02:30,204 --> 00:02:34,563 Your real business is that you have got this human form of body to, 35 00:02:34,564 --> 00:02:39,416 improve your next life. 36 00:02:39,417 --> 00:02:41,288 You are going to have a next life. 37 00:02:41,289 --> 00:02:43,510 Suppose you are going to be a dog. 38 00:02:43,511 --> 00:02:45,606 Is that success? 39 00:02:45,607 --> 00:02:50,298 So you must know the science that instead of becoming dog, 40 00:02:50,299 --> 00:02:52,178 how shall you become God. 41 00:02:52,179 --> 00:02:53,832 That is intelligence. 42 00:02:53,833 --> 00:02:57,620 But why is it any better to grow castor seed than to dig a well? 43 00:02:57,621 --> 00:02:58,450 Huh? 44 00:02:58,451 --> 00:03:04,931 - Why is it any better to grow castor seed than to… - No, you require lamp. 45 00:03:04,932 --> 00:03:11,895 So you finish that lamping business as simply as possible. 46 00:03:11,896 --> 00:03:17,974 In the balance time you save you improve your self-realization. 47 00:03:17,975 --> 00:03:25,479 That is the life. 48 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,485 Just like this child, he wants to play. 49 00:03:29,486 --> 00:03:33,074 He does not go to school, does not take an education, 50 00:03:33,075 --> 00:03:38,101 and he improves type of toys, toys, 51 00:03:38,102 --> 00:03:41,751 he’s engaged in improved type of football playing, and… 52 00:03:41,752 --> 00:03:46,455 That… Is that very good intelligence? 53 00:03:46,456 --> 00:03:49,008 But nobody works longer hours than the farmer. 54 00:03:49,009 --> 00:03:49,816 Huh? 55 00:03:49,817 --> 00:03:53,458 No one works harder than the farmer. 56 00:03:53,459 --> 00:03:55,987 The farmer has to work very hard. 57 00:03:55,988 --> 00:03:58,376 No, our point is that… 58 00:03:58,377 --> 00:04:05,830 If you think that electricity improvement is better than farming, 59 00:04:05,831 --> 00:04:08,074 we have no objection. 60 00:04:08,075 --> 00:04:13,108 But if you forget your real business, is that intelligent? 61 00:04:13,109 --> 00:04:16,133 - No, of course not. - That is our proposal. 62 00:04:16,134 --> 00:04:21,804 Our real business is how to become Kṛṣṇa conscious. 63 00:04:21,805 --> 00:04:26,882 So simply for improving the condition of life, 64 00:04:26,883 --> 00:04:32,191 the necessities of life, if I forget my real business, 65 00:04:32,192 --> 00:04:38,064 is that intelligence? 66 00:04:38,065 --> 00:04:41,844 Therefore it is said duṣkṛtinaḥ. 67 00:04:41,845 --> 00:04:44,509 Kṛti means merit. 68 00:04:44,510 --> 00:04:52,326 But merit is being utilized for sinful activities. 69 00:04:52,327 --> 00:04:55,984 Take for example the meat-eaters. 70 00:04:55,985 --> 00:05:01,022 When man was… The uncivilized man is still there. 71 00:05:01,023 --> 00:05:05,827 In the uncivilized way they are living in the jungle. 72 00:05:05,828 --> 00:05:08,438 They require to eat something. 73 00:05:08,439 --> 00:05:20,525 So, they stone over an animal going, and the animal dies, and then they eat. 74 00:05:20,526 --> 00:05:24,723 Now, instead of killing the animal by stoning, 75 00:05:24,724 --> 00:05:32,197 if you have discovered scientific machine in the slaughterhouse to kill the animal, 76 00:05:32,198 --> 00:05:38,080 is that improvement? 77 00:05:38,081 --> 00:05:46,148 If you think this is advancement, “Now we have discovered very technical machine. 78 00:05:46,149 --> 00:05:50,884 Instead of stoning one animal killing, it takes so much time, 79 00:05:50,885 --> 00:05:56,955 hundreds and thousands of animals you can kill in one hour.” 80 00:05:56,956 --> 00:06:00,011 Do you think that is improvement? 81 00:06:00,012 --> 00:06:05,377 That is going on. 82 00:06:05,378 --> 00:06:05,379 Subtitles by Pratyatoṣa Dāsa, Causelessmercy.com