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RC VRN 1976-09-09 Chastity vs. Change-O-Mania
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ANNOUNCER: Next is a conversation
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with His Divine Grace
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
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recorded on September 9th,
1976, in Vṛndāvana, India.
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PRABHUPĀDA: …and the
daughter, young daughter,
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out of ignorance, she
committed some offense.
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Took one straw and
pierced through one insect.
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The muni was sitting
there as insect.
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The result was, because she offended, all
the men of the king, mean the soldiers,
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the secretaries, they stopped
passing urine and stool.
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HARI−ŚAURI: The muni was
there in the form of an insect?
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Yes. And she pierced him.
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Oh. So the result was all of them
became without passing of stool.
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So the king could understand
there is some offense.
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So… Because formerly the
kings were saintly persons.
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He asked all his men,
“What you have done?”
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Then the girl said, “Father,
I have done something.”
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Then he made this plea that,
“Kindly excuse this girl…
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Out of ignorance…” He was
very angry, that Cyavana Muni.
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His attitude was always angry.
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Then all of them became
very much aggrieved.
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Then he asked, “Whether
your girl is married?”
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King could understand that “He
wants to marry my daughter.
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Otherwise, why he’s inquiring.”
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And he was so old… I have
got my skin still tight.
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All loose. He was all
slack. And he was old.
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So he had to agree. Otherwise,
the whole thing was catastrophe.
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So the king said, “Yes.
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She’s not married. If you like I
can offer my daughter to you.”
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Then everything was settled up.
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But the daughter was young, and he
was like her grand, great-grandfather.
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Match was not at all
suitable, but he had to offer.
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So this girl also took it seriously,
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and she was serving the old husband
very faithfully like honest, chaste wife.
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Never mind.
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Then, some days after,
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the same saintly person was visited by
two heavenly physicians, aśvinī-kumāras.
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The aśvinī-kumāras,
they had some difficulty.
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They were not allowed in the society of
the demigods while drinking soma-rasa.
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They had some defects,
something like that.
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So when the physician
came to see Cyavana Muni
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he said that “If you can
give me young age,
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beautiful, you can make me by your
treatment beautiful young man,
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which is very pleasing
to young girls,
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then I shall give you the facility of drinking
soma-rasa in the society of demigods.”
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“Yes.”
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So he made him very nice
beautiful-looking young man
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by taking him to a certain lake,
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and they dipped down and all of them
became fresh young men, beautiful,
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very beautiful.
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So this chaste wife,
They could not…
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She could not recognize,
“Who is my husband?”
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They look all very
beautiful young men.
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Cyavana and his followers?
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No, Cyavana became young and
the aśvinī-kumāras also became…
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Oh, they all went in.
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They dipped down
in a certain lake.
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In this way, he became a
very beautiful young man.
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Then for soma-yajña, his father-
in-law, the daughter’s father came.
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He came.
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So he was surprised, “How is that?
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My daughter is with
another young man?”
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He became angry.
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“My dear daughter, what is this?
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You are defaming your
husband’s family and my family.”
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He began to chastise
like that. And just see.
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Because he sees that “I got my
daughter married with old Cyavana.
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How is that, with a young man?”
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Just see.
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Condemned like anything.
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And she was laughing.
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She knew that “I have not
changed my husband.
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A change of body.”
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Then she said, “My dear
father, don’t be angry.
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He’s your real son-in-law.
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He has become now
young by treatment.”
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Then he was very pleased and embraced
her daughter, that “You are so nice.”
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This is Vedic civilization.
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Even one has got old, going to
die husband, she cannot change.
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This is the chastity.
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Once a woman was married,
then that was finished.
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No connection with
another man. No, no.
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That one marriage is sufficient.
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She must remain very faithful
to her husband, chaste.
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That is wanted.
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Not that “I do not like
this husband. I’ll change.”
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That is not wanted.
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That’s Western mentality.
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Whatever your father and
mother has chosen, that’s all.
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He’s your worshipable husband.
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This is the… This point
I wanted to bring.
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And her father was
surprised. “How is that?
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I got you married
with an old man?
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Somehow or other,
circumstances I was obliged.
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How is that you have
picked up one young man?”
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He chastised her like anything.
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Then when he came to understand
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that the same old man has become
now young man by medical treatment,
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then he was satisfied.
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So you cannot change.
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I have seen it.
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One, my father’s friend,
he was very old man.
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My father was also… He was at
that time not less than sixty-five.
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But his wife died, and he was
married with another young girl.
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But his sister forced him to marry.
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That “Unless you marry,
who will look after you?
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You have no children.”
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But I have seen that young woman
who was married with that gentleman…
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In our childhood we
used to called her didi.
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Didi means elder sister.
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So the relationship was
very thick and thin.
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But that old man, not
less than sixty-five,
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and this young woman,
utmost twenty to twenty-five.
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She was serving the
husband like anything.
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We have seen it.
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There is no question of
changing or being dissatisfied.
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Now they bring them
up to be independent.
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It is a question of culture. Culture.
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She was king’s daughter, royal, and
married [indistinct] muni, and old, rotten.
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Older than me.
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All the skin has become slackened.
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But still she was serving him
just like worshipable lord.
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The age difference is great-
grandfather and great-granddaughter.
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You’ll find in Bhagavad-gītā.
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Lord Śiva, he could not
construct even a house.
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He was living underneath a tree.
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And his wife, Durgā, Sṛṣṭi-sthiti-
pralaya-sādhana-śaktir ekā [Bs. 5.44].
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She can create a new
world, so powerful, Durgā.
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She’s living with her
husband underneath a tree.
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Never claims, “My dear husband,
if you cannot, I can make one.”
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There is a story about that.
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That, “People criticize us. All
right, let us have some house.”
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So Lord Śiva, Durgā, both of
them capable to do anything.
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So they constructed a very nice
gold house. “Now we shall live.”
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So there is new house
entering ceremony.
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So one Gargamuni was invited as
brāhmaṇa. Many other brāhmaṇas.
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So they began to eat so much…
That story I’m now forgetting.
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Then whatever stock they have finished,
then when, after eating, when they wanted,
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“Give us dakṣiṇā.
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Because after eating there is… So Lord
Śiva, where shall I get everything?
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I have finished.”
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Then they became
puzzled what to do.
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So Lord Śiva said, “All
right, you take this house.”
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Again they became
underneath a tree. [laughs]
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“All right, as dakṣiṇā
you take this house.
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Don’t bother.”
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Their house entrance
ceremony was there.
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As a result of that ceremony they
became again underneath a tree.
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