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RC VRN 1976-11-03 Sex Education-Wasting Time
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ANNOUNCER: The following is a
conversation with His Divine Grace
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A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
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recorded on the 3rd of November,
1976, in Vṛndāvana, India.
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HARI−ŚAURI: But how can they take it
that what we’re doing is a bad thing.
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If we’re training people how to avoid
intoxication, how to avoid illicit sex,
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abortion, contraception.
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PRABHUPĀDA: They say, “Why you should avoid?
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This is life.
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Why you are brainwashing?”
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One boy was there in the beginning.
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What was his name?
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Ranchor, his name, I gave him.
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So his father argued, “Why you are avoiding illicit sex?
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This is life!
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Why you are afraid?
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I’ll give you car. I’ll give you girls. You enjoy.
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What is this philosophy, nonsense philosophy.”
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His father was arguing.
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I think everyone’s father argues like that.
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Lord Roland said, he said, “Why
you are prohibiting this thing?
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This is our life.
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It is impossible.”
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The thing is in society still, even now,
there are people who abstain from it.
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There are vegetarians.
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There may be very few, one or two.
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That is… One million, two person…
At least especially in your country.
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The thing is that they
don’t claim that they are brainwashed.
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So we’re a society where we’re
doing all these things, combinedly.
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“It is folly to be
wise where ignorance is bliss.”
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If the majority are fools and
rascal, if you say something sane,
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then they’ll… they’ll ask… The
man, the sane man, he is insane.
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He’s crazy.
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Then how to fight them?
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That is the position.
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The only means is that in spite of all
opposition we have to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa.
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That will cleanse.
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Otherwise there is no other way.
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Argument and logic, they have no brain to understand.
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It requires this transcendental method,
Ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam [Cc. Antya 20.12].,
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by chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa. That is wanted.
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You have to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and
let them give the chance to hear.
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Then they will be able to catch it,
what we are saying, not directly.
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It is not possible.
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Then how are we
going to fare in this court case?
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’Cause in these court cases it’s a question
of presenting one side against the…
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No, philosophy is there.
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Court case means there is philosophy, there is logic.
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So for that we have got so many books.
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We can… But general mass of people, chanting.
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When there is court case we are prepared to defend.
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We have got… We are not fools.
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We can talk that what is the aim of life.
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They cannot say anything.
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The transmigration of the soul, the aim of
life which we are discussing in our book,
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that’s fact.
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How he can deny the transmigration
of the soul from one body to another?
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And if that is accepted, the whole problem is solved.
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He does not know what kind of life he is going to get.
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Therefore they do not accept this philosophy.
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If once accepted, then next question—
“What kind of life we are going to get,
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either to become a tree or a dog or human being?”
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What arrangement you have done that
you will get next life human being?
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Then the pious and impious
activities comes one after another.
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The basic principle they are denying.
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“After this body is finished, everything is finished.”
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bhāsmi bhūtasya dehasya punar agama
[?] “The body will be burned into ashes,
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and where is life? Who is coming?
Who is going? That’s all.”
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They do not see the soul.
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Their medical science cannot find out where is soul.
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How do they say the… The soul
means intelligence, they say.
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Otherwise how do they say the animal has no soul?
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Why do they say?
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What is the… What is the… “Man has soul,” they say.
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“The animal has no soul.”
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JAGADĪŚA: That’s what the Christians say. Christians.
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So what is the symptom?
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Well, they… ’Cause
he, man, has reason and logic.
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That means reason and logic is soul.
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That is their idea.
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That is not soul.
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Intelligence… When I say,
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“You have got intelligence,” it does
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“You have got intelligence.”
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We say like that.
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We never say, “You are intelligence.”
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So intelligence is not soul.
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The rascals, they do not know.
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Mistake.
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Nobody says, “You are intelligence.”
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They say, “You are intelligent.”
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Intelligence is something you possess.
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Yes. [splice]
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“Brainwashing:
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Clearing the mind of established ideas by
persistent suggestion and indoctrination.”
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[chuckles] That is… We are doing that.
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They are under the impression, “Work
hard, earn money, and enjoy life.”
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We say, “No.
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Don’t work hard for sense gratification
but work hard for self-realization.”
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Indoctrine.
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Well, any form
of education is indoctrination.
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Indoctrinization. Yes.
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Any kind of education is…
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Whatever you teach someone,
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you teach according to whatever
you see as the correct value.
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Yes. The child goes to the school.
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His brain is packed up: “I shall play all day.”
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He likes to play but it is indoctrinization
that “No, you should read.
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You must become graduate.”
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Yes.
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And whatever country he’s born in, he
has to learn the culture of that country,
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he’s indoctrinated. Apart from
that, education is required.
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The child wants to play but we have to
educate him that “No, play is not all.
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You have to be educated.”
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Similarly, this animal life, eating,
sleeping, mating, this is already there.
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No. We say, “Not only this, you have to realize God.”
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This kind of brainwash is required.
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If we do not understand God, then what
is the difference between you and dog?
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He knows how to eat, how to sleep.
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He doesn’t require…how to eat.
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Everyone knows how to eat, how to use sex.
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Nobody requires any university education.
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Simply ignorance.
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When the animal enjoy sex,
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they know which part of the body has to be used.
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They don’t have to be taught.
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There is no need of education.
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He knows it.
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And these rascals, they are
presenting Freud’s philosophy: Sex.
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Just see how they are wasting time.
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They have so many
books now: So-called sex education.
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So many of them.
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Simply wasting time.
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There is a story about this.
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One man was canvassing, hawking.
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Hawker?
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Yes, hawker.
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So he was, “Here is a
book of cow protection, cow protection.”
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He has written one book to take care of the cows.
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So one old man called him, “What you are selling?”
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Now, “I am selling this book.”
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“What is that book?”
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“Maintaining the cow.”
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So, “Why you are selling?
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First of all give this book to your mother
because you are no better than cow,
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so she will learn how to give you protection.”
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That means he wanted to impress upon…
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that “Cow protection doesn’t require any education.
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You have written a book?
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So you are such a rascal, cow intelligence.
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Better give this book to your mother.
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She will maintain you.
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Don’t sell it.
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Everyone knows how to give cow protection.”
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So similarly, this sex literature,
there is no need of sex literature.
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Sex literature is there in Sanskrit also.
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That is how to restrict sex.
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For what purpose one should indulge
in sex, that is called Kāma-śāstra.
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I have seen this Freud philosophy became
so prominent that sometimes in the year…
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1940’s maybe.
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So one young woman was traveling,
and another young man was traveling.
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So they began to discuss about sex very openly.
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And both of them unknown.
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Still, they engaged themselves
in discussing the sex liter…
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without any shame.
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Pseudo-intellectuals. Shameless. Yes.
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Young boy, young girl, they began
to discuss on sex openly as scientific.
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What is this scientific?
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Scientific means after discussing for some
time you propose that “Let us enjoy sex.”
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That’s all. It is common thing in your country:
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Unknown girl, unknown boy, and talk for some time,
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“Let us go to some restaurant,” and
then talk more intimately, and then sex.
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That’s the whole social system.
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“Would you like to sex?”
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And who is the young man, young… They’ll deny it.
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I know this.
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During ball dance they embrace
one another, another’s wife,
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another husband, and in ball
dance… Or there are side rooms.
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Naturally they’ll feel sex and they
go to the side room and discuss.
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Is it not?
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DEVOTEE: Yes.
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The only reason they go to a dance is to
pick up some woman for sex life. That’s all.
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Most of my friends used to go out specifically
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to find some woman to have sex.
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This dancing club means this.
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