0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:16,279 RC VRN 1976-11-04 Nobody Is Satisfied Income 1 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,563 ANNOUNCER: The following is a conversation, 2 00:00:18,564 --> 00:00:24,148 with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, 3 00:00:24,149 --> 00:00:47,348 recorded on the 4th of November, 1976, in Vṛndāvana, India. 4 00:00:47,349 --> 00:00:54,058 PRABHUPĀDA: So is there any regula… regulation given in the pañjikā, when? 5 00:00:54,059 --> 00:00:56,762 PRADYUMNA: Only regulation given for timing is that… 6 00:00:56,763 --> 00:00:59,547 is that for Deity going to rest at noon. 7 00:00:59,548 --> 00:01:05,448 The Deity should take rest at noon, two yāmas after sunrise, 8 00:01:05,449 --> 00:01:09,052 and take rest in evening, one yāma after sunset. 9 00:01:09,053 --> 00:01:11,509 But it didn’t say anything about the other āratis. 10 00:01:11,510 --> 00:01:14,490 - But at 6… - The ārati, it is called sandhya ārati. 11 00:01:14,491 --> 00:01:18,459 - Yes, Sandhya ārati. - Sandhya ārati means just in the evening. 12 00:01:18,460 --> 00:01:23,109 - Yes. - So when evening time is there… 13 00:01:23,110 --> 00:01:25,664 After sunset it is not evening. 14 00:01:25,665 --> 00:01:29,844 What is the time of sunset nowadays? 15 00:01:29,845 --> 00:01:31,740 Bring pañjikā. 16 00:01:31,741 --> 00:01:32,999 What is the time of sunset? 17 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,187 HARI−ŚAURI: It’s about 5:30. 18 00:01:35,188 --> 00:01:40,874 5:30; then one hour after; then 6:30 is all right; 6:30 is all right. 19 00:01:40,875 --> 00:01:45,724 AKŚAYANANDA: Okay; so in that case, when would you like to come and visit? 20 00:01:45,725 --> 00:01:47,718 - Ah, 6:30. - Now you got six till seven. 21 00:01:47,719 --> 00:01:49,659 Huh? - Now you’re coming six till seven. 22 00:01:49,660 --> 00:01:51,454 5:30 to 6:30? 23 00:01:51,455 --> 00:01:58,769 We shall come… 6:30- 7:00: Ārati will go on. 24 00:01:58,770 --> 00:02:02,199 So we can come half an hour before. 25 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,682 - 5:30. - 5:30. 26 00:02:04,683 --> 00:02:10,238 5:30; instead of coming there at six, I come there at 5:30. 27 00:02:10,239 --> 00:02:14,359 And one hour; then 6:30 begins. 28 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,961 Make that like that. 29 00:02:15,962 --> 00:02:19,072 That will be nice, hm. 30 00:02:19,073 --> 00:02:21,612 I think… You can understand Hindi? No. 31 00:02:21,613 --> 00:02:25,384 I am trying to; I can understand little bit; I am practicing. 32 00:02:25,385 --> 00:02:27,992 You should learn Hindi, Bengali. 33 00:02:27,993 --> 00:02:30,409 You are learning? 34 00:02:30,410 --> 00:02:34,259 He talks… When he talks, he talks a little fast, when he reads the anuvada. 35 00:02:34,260 --> 00:02:36,606 - Who? - Ah, Prema-yogi. 36 00:02:36,607 --> 00:02:39,230 Ah, he is… 37 00:02:39,231 --> 00:02:46,139 - But I… I am studying his translating: Nice. - Yes. 38 00:02:46,140 --> 00:02:49,003 He is learned. 39 00:02:49,004 --> 00:02:52,813 We wanted to ask you about… Ah… 40 00:02:52,814 --> 00:02:56,323 He was training up Prema- yogi to do the editing, 41 00:02:56,324 --> 00:02:58,761 but there’s no one to do the transcribing. 42 00:02:58,762 --> 00:03:01,989 We probably doing… We’ll have to send the tapes… 43 00:03:01,990 --> 00:03:03,913 Transcribing? No, why? 44 00:03:03,914 --> 00:03:06,395 Why can’t Pālikā do? 45 00:03:06,396 --> 00:03:08,106 - She can do it? - I don’t know. 46 00:03:08,107 --> 00:03:11,082 - Yes, she can do. - Pālikā can do it? 47 00:03:11,083 --> 00:03:14,249 - [indistinct] will be all right, then. - You also learn. 48 00:03:14,250 --> 00:03:15,055 Typing. 49 00:03:15,056 --> 00:03:17,091 - Yes. - Yes. 50 00:03:17,092 --> 00:03:19,220 In case there is none, you should do. 51 00:03:19,221 --> 00:03:21,004 Pālikā’s done it before. 52 00:03:21,005 --> 00:03:23,689 - No, Pālikā can do; I know that. - She is expert. 53 00:03:23,690 --> 00:03:25,724 She is expert in typing. 54 00:03:25,725 --> 00:03:28,373 Amongst the women, she is expert typist. 55 00:03:28,374 --> 00:03:32,178 She is expert in so many things. 56 00:03:32,179 --> 00:03:36,409 Only defect is that she’s woman. 57 00:03:36,410 --> 00:03:40,165 But Kṛṣṇa says, [striyo vaiśyās tathā śūdrās] [Bg 9.32]. 58 00:03:40,166 --> 00:03:42,082 “Never mind woman. 59 00:03:42,083 --> 00:03:45,225 If she is devotee, she also comes to Me.” 60 00:03:45,226 --> 00:03:50,605 Striyaḥ śūdrās tathā: “no one barred.” 61 00:03:50,606 --> 00:03:55,355 Especially naming: [striyo vaiśyās tathā śūdrās, te 'pi yānti parāṁ…] [Bg 9.32]. 62 00:03:55,356 --> 00:03:58,330 Everyone is… Kṛṣṇa is so kind. 63 00:03:58,331 --> 00:04:01,398 There is no restriction. 64 00:04:01,399 --> 00:04:06,118 Everyone is open to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. 65 00:04:06,119 --> 00:04:09,577 jīvera ‘svarūpa’ haya—kṛṣṇera ‘nitya-dāsa’ [Cc. Madhya 20.108] 66 00:04:09,578 --> 00:04:12,986 This is open to all living entities. 67 00:04:12,987 --> 00:04:14,956 There is no restriction. 68 00:04:14,957 --> 00:04:20,652 And so long this body is there, material, there is distinction between this and that. 69 00:04:20,653 --> 00:04:27,132 Otherwise, when you come to the platform of spiritual understanding, 70 00:04:27,133 --> 00:04:31,085 Paṇḍitāḥ sama-darśinaḥ [Bg. 5.18]; then there is no restriction. 71 00:04:31,086 --> 00:04:35,443 Higher, lower, this; so on; so on. 72 00:04:35,444 --> 00:04:41,074 gopī-bhartuḥ pada-kamalayor dāsa-dāsānudāsaḥ [Cc. Madhya 13.80] 73 00:04:41,075 --> 00:04:42,970 Hmm. 74 00:04:42,971 --> 00:04:46,311 So any newspaper propaganda against us? 75 00:04:46,312 --> 00:04:49,960 - Ha! - No. 76 00:04:49,961 --> 00:04:55,848 Hm, one complaint is standing: 77 00:04:55,849 --> 00:05:00,885 That our life members and others—subscriber… 78 00:05:00,886 --> 00:05:05,824 They always complain: They are not getting paper; they are not getting book. 79 00:05:05,825 --> 00:05:09,411 - That is the general complaint. - We send, regularly. 80 00:05:09,412 --> 00:05:11,090 We are sending. 81 00:05:11,091 --> 00:05:18,023 But at many times the mail is stolen—magazines—Back to Godhead. 82 00:05:18,024 --> 00:05:21,247 - That is a fact. - Yes, it’s very difficult. 83 00:05:21,248 --> 00:05:24,832 Be… There are so many nice picture; I… I have seen. 84 00:05:24,833 --> 00:05:30,675 When I was printing my books in a Delhi press… 85 00:05:30,676 --> 00:05:39,480 So one peon was coming there to work part time as compositor. 86 00:05:39,481 --> 00:05:47,000 So he… his mailbag he will put somewhere in the press and he will begin composing. 87 00:05:47,001 --> 00:05:51,951 And all other compositors: They’ll check the mail bag, 88 00:05:51,952 --> 00:05:55,032 and if something is attractive, they’ll take. 89 00:05:55,033 --> 00:05:57,593 I have seen it. 90 00:05:57,594 --> 00:06:00,488 Our magazine is so… 91 00:06:00,489 --> 00:06:02,647 - It is so beautiful. - …[full] of pictures, 92 00:06:02,648 --> 00:06:07,145 so naturally, as soon as they… The pictorial: They take it. 93 00:06:07,146 --> 00:06:12,314 Yeah, that’s the trouble. 94 00:06:12,315 --> 00:06:15,651 So we have a system in some towns. 95 00:06:15,652 --> 00:06:20,804 We… We find one member who is very much liking us, 96 00:06:20,805 --> 00:06:23,335 and we send all the magazines to him, 97 00:06:23,336 --> 00:06:27,967 and he goes—sends his peons by hand, to all the other members in that city. 98 00:06:27,968 --> 00:06:29,228 That is not possible. 99 00:06:29,229 --> 00:06:31,316 We are doing that in some… some cities 100 00:06:31,317 --> 00:06:33,753 but we don’t have in all cities: Such a system. 101 00:06:33,754 --> 00:06:38,767 - That system works. - How it is possible? 102 00:06:38,768 --> 00:06:46,897 - We’re doing that… - Some are living ten miles from him; it is not… 103 00:06:46,898 --> 00:06:49,647 - No, that is happening in India. - Yeah. 104 00:06:49,648 --> 00:06:53,900 - Not in other countries; [indistinct] - No. 105 00:06:53,901 --> 00:06:57,967 In your country the peons are very responsible. 106 00:06:57,968 --> 00:07:02,395 Yes, the post office is also very good. 107 00:07:02,396 --> 00:07:06,821 Here they never satisfied. 108 00:07:06,822 --> 00:07:09,831 This is the modern mentality. 109 00:07:09,832 --> 00:07:15,226 Nobody is satisfied with his income. 110 00:07:15,227 --> 00:07:17,733 He wants more money. 111 00:07:17,734 --> 00:07:23,003 And for that purpose he can do anything rascal. 112 00:07:23,004 --> 00:07:31,816 I have seen it; this peon puts his bag without any responsibility. 113 00:07:31,817 --> 00:07:37,318 Letters are strewn and maybe some letters stolen; who can say? 114 00:07:37,319 --> 00:07:43,125 And he came to earn some money. 115 00:07:43,126 --> 00:07:50,821 For some time he’ll compose and get some labor. 116 00:07:50,822 --> 00:07:55,355 And in Calcutta I have seen all the office peons: 117 00:07:55,356 --> 00:08:07,697 They are sleeping in Dalhousie Square—the peon book as pillow—for hours together. 118 00:08:07,698 --> 00:08:13,758 And when they, after distributing… The when they return to the office 119 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:18,543 it is going to be closed. 120 00:08:18,544 --> 00:08:22,525 And if they are asked explanation, “Why you are so late?” “Oh, he was not there. 121 00:08:22,526 --> 00:08:27,548 I had to wait three hours,” and so on, so on, so on. 122 00:08:27,549 --> 00:08:29,338 Everyone is dishonest. 123 00:08:29,339 --> 00:08:34,271 - Nobody is a… a… working honestly. - They said… 124 00:08:34,272 --> 00:08:38,745 Especially in India, because poverty-stricken. 125 00:08:38,746 --> 00:08:47,323 If they can sleep two hours, he thinks that he has made some profit. 126 00:08:47,324 --> 00:08:51,230 Formerly people were God conscious. 127 00:08:51,231 --> 00:08:57,806 They did not like to cheat: That “God will be displeased.” 128 00:08:57,807 --> 00:09:04,994 Now they're don… don’t believe in God, so they can do anything. 129 00:09:04,995 --> 00:09:06,457 Now that we’ve become a devotee… 130 00:09:06,458 --> 00:09:09,322 “Everyone is God.” 131 00:09:09,323 --> 00:09:12,972 if we sleep for two hours, we think we have wasted two hours. 132 00:09:12,973 --> 00:09:15,765 Tha… That should be. 133 00:09:15,766 --> 00:09:18,793 Sleeping is waste of time. 134 00:09:18,794 --> 00:09:21,929 nidrāhāra-vihārakādi-vijitau [Śrī Śrī Ṣaḍ Gosvāmy Aṣṭaka] 135 00:09:21,930 --> 00:09:29,286 We have to conquer over eating and sleeping and mating… 136 00:09:29,287 --> 00:09:32,711 Just the opposite to the karmīs. 137 00:09:32,712 --> 00:09:36,181 - They want to increase their eating. - Formerly, when I was in 138 00:09:36,182 --> 00:09:44,471 Rādhā-Dāmodara temple, there was a khol manufacturer here. 139 00:09:44,472 --> 00:09:48,328 Is he here still? 140 00:09:48,329 --> 00:09:49,515 Khol manu… 141 00:09:49,516 --> 00:09:51,819 He supplied me khol: 142 00:09:51,820 --> 00:09:55,440 - Very nice; very big. - Oh. 143 00:09:55,441 --> 00:10:00,937 This khol was taken to Germany or… 144 00:10:00,938 --> 00:10:04,353 What was his name? 145 00:10:04,354 --> 00:10:06,489 - I forgot. - There is one man here. 146 00:10:06,490 --> 00:10:07,583 In here? 147 00:10:07,584 --> 00:10:11,142 One man is here, but I don’t know if it’s the same one. 148 00:10:11,143 --> 00:10:12,764 Can you call him? 149 00:10:12,765 --> 00:10:15,531 - Yeah. - Yes? 150 00:10:15,532 --> 00:10:18,462 I think he’s just a repairman though. 151 00:10:18,463 --> 00:10:24,450 - Oh, whatever he may be; yes. - Okay. 152 00:10:24,451 --> 00:10:27,936 We must have very good khol; you have no good khol? 153 00:10:27,937 --> 00:10:31,733 Yeah, I had one under repair; I had two under repair with him. 154 00:10:31,734 --> 00:10:33,530 Oh! 155 00:10:33,531 --> 00:10:38,914 But he takes a long time. 156 00:10:38,915 --> 00:10:42,093 They are waiting… I am waiting now for repair. 157 00:10:42,094 --> 00:10:43,784 So you can call him. 158 00:10:43,785 --> 00:10:47,271 - Okay; you’d like to meet him? - Yes. 159 00:10:47,272 --> 00:10:57,249 [If he is] the same man, then I can ask him to prepare some khol. [splice] 160 00:10:57,250 --> 00:11:06,266 The one thing is that they neglect that rings. 161 00:11:06,267 --> 00:11:11,444 That ring and the strap, if it is… That will never do. 162 00:11:11,445 --> 00:11:25,041 As soon as they khol, that’s… some rope, bas. [splice] 163 00:11:25,042 --> 00:11:38,699 Everything depends on organized management. 164 00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:38,701 Subtitles by Pratyatoṣa Dāsa, Causelessmercy.com