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SB 5-06-10 BOM 1976-12-28 Real Varnasrama
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ANNOUNCER: The following is a
Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, 5th canto,
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6 chapter, text number 10,
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given by His Divine Grace
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
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recorded on December
28th, 1976, in Bombay, India. [splice]
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PRABHUPĀDA: The varṇāśrama-dharma,
that is beginning of human civilization.
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So in this age they
have already given up.
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There is no varṇāśrama. In
India it is simply in name.
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Actually, there is no varṇāśrama.
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The, most of the
people, they are śūdras.
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But without varṇāśrama, there
cannot be any human civilization,
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because the aim of human
life is to understand God.
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That is the aim of human life.
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Unfortunately, they have given up this
idea, the aim of life is to understand God.
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You inquire all over the world,
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99.9% will deny God or they
have no clear idea of God.
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Even the so-called religionists,
they have also no clear idea.
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Maybe some power; no clear idea.
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Neither they are
interested to know.
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But so far we are concerned,
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we have got full description of the
Lord and His pastimes, His activities.
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Everything is recorded in the Śrīmad-
Bhāgavatam and other Vedic literatures.
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And God says in the
Bhagavad-gītā personally
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that “I was existing in the past and I
shall continue to exist in the future.”
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Similarly, the living entities,
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they also existed in the past and they will
continue to exist in the future individually.
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That is stated in the Bhagavad-
gītā in the Second Chapter.
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It is not that we shall be finished in future
or there was no existence in the past. No.
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We are, both of us, we are eternal.
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God, Kṛṣṇa, and we, living
entities, we are eternal.
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Na hanyate hanyamāne
śarīre [Bg. 2.20].
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Our destruction of this material body
does not mean we, as spirit soul,
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we are destroyed. No.
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To understand this truth, the
varṇāśrama system required.
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Without this varṇāśrama system
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nobody can understand that
we are individual person,
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we existed in the past, and we shall exist in
the future, and we are existing at present.
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Anyone can understand.
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There was no change in the past, neither
there will be change in the future.
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Simply we change the dress:
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Tathā dehāntara-praptir dhīras
tatra na muhyati [Bg. 2.13].
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This is our self-realization.
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This is called ātma-tattva-jñāna.
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But people in the present
day, they are not interested.
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Apaśyatām ātma-
tattvam [SB 2.1.2].
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Yāvan na jijñāsata
krūraḥ ātma-tattvam [?].
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Parābhavas tāvad abodha-jāto
yāvan na jijñāsata ātma-tattvam [?].
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Our activities, they are all defeat.
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The difference… Just like you
are constructing this huge,
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gorgeous building
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and another person also constructing
another huge skyscraper building.
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So what is the difference?
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The difference is here we are
doing on the ātma-tattva,
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and they are doing for being
defeated in the material world.
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That is the difference.
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You’ll find the same activities, dealing with
stones and bricks and workers, engineers.
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But one is based on ātma-tattva and the
other is based on without any ātma-tattva.
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That is the difference.
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Sometimes bhakti is observed as
similar to the activities of the karmīs,
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but there is difference.
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One is bhakti, one is going back
to home, back to Godhead;
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and the other is going forward
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to the hellish condition of
life by the same activities.
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This is the technique.
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How it is possible? It is possible.
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By practical example, it
is said in the śāstras…
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Just like if you take more quantity of
milk preparation, you get diarrhea.
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But the same milk
preparation, yogurt, is there.
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It will stop diarrhea.
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Both of them are milk preparation.
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One has created the disease diarrhea,
and another is stopping diarrhea.
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So why? Cikirsitam.
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One is by medical process and the
other is without any medical process.
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The medical process
is to satisfy Kṛṣṇa.
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Here the building is being
constructed to satisfy Kṛṣṇa.
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To satisfy Kṛṣṇa.
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And in other places the building
is constructed to satisfy senses.
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This is the difference,
material and spiritual.
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Material means to
satisfy one’s senses.
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Nūnaṁ pramattaḥ kurute vikarma yad
indriya-prītayā āpṛṇoti [Bhāg. 5.5.4].
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Karma means they are working
very hard like dogs and hogs,
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but the purpose is indriya-prīti.
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Nūnaṁ pramattaḥ: they are mad.
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They should not… And why mad?
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Because the karma means you
are creating another body.
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And as soon as there is another
body, dehāntara-prāptir,
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so long you have got this
material body, you’ll suffer.
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That is the law of nature.
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Karmānu bandhaḥ.
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Yāvan prīti mayi deve… tavat
karmānu bandhanaḥ [?].
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The karmānu-
bandha will continue.
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Therefore in the śāstra
it is recommended,
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yajñārthe karma anyatra
karma-bandhanaḥ [?].
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Don’t act anything except
for the satisfaction of Kṛṣṇa.
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That is Kṛṣṇa
consciousness movement.
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If you do anything for
your sense gratification,
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that means you are being
bound up by the laws of karma.
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Laws of karma, it is very strict
according to the modes of activities.
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Puruṣaḥ prakṛti-stho hi bhuṅkte
karma-jān guṇān [Bg. 13.22].
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So we should be very much careful
not to be afflicted by the karma.
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Karmānu bandha.
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This is very delicate task. [break]
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…but they do not know what is the
importance of the varṇāśrama-dharma.
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They have broken
it. They don’t like.
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They want to say classless society.
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Classless society cannot be.
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Even in Russia, the
Communist country,
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they wanted to break down the classless
society, but they cannot manage.
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They have now created a manager
class and the worker class.
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Why manager class?
Make it classless.
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But that is not possible.
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Therefore in the society there must
be managers and the workers.
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Without this you cannot work, you
cannot make, keep any systematic…
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So managers… The varṇāśrama-
dharma: the managers,
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the brāhmaṇas and the kṣatriyas; and
the workers, the vaiśyas and the śūdras.
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And less than that, less than the śūdras, the
caṇḍālas, they have to be fully controlled,
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kirata-hūṇāndhra-
pulinda-pulkaśā [?],
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because they do not know the
regulative principles of life.
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They are called caṇḍālas.
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So they are described in the śāstra.
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So the kṣatriyas, they used to keep
these caṇḍālas under full control.
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Otherwise the society
would be lost.
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Unfortunately, there is no kṣatriya,
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there is no brāhmaṇa, there
is no control of the caṇḍālas,
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and the whole world
is in chaotic condition.
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So the Kṛṣṇa consciousness
movement is an attempt.
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Because the caṇḍālas are majority
and we are very minority.
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But still little portion of good thing is still
good, and large amount of bad thing,
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that is bad. That is not good.
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So here it is stated that people
who are lowest amongst men
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and bewildered by the illusory
energy… This is bewildered.
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What is that bewilderment?
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They are trying to be happy
by material adjustment.
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Just this morning we were
discussing of the air crash.
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It is very good to fly in the air,
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but at any moment the whole plane
may be crashed and all of them finished.
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So this kind of material
adjustment will not help us.
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Daivī hy eṣā guṇamayī mama
māyā duratyayā [Bg. 7.14].
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This is illusory, or māyā sukha.
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Prahlāda Mahārāja regrets,
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tato vimukha-cetasā māyā-sukhāya
bharam udvahato vimūḍhān [SB 7.9.43].
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Any moment everything
will be crushed.
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This is called māyā-sukha.
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And still they are wasting time,
that for māyā-sukhāya, illusion.
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They’ll not be happy.
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Any moment everything can
be crushed, and they are busy.
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Therefore this modern civilization
is most dangerous civilization,
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soul-killing civilization.
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The human being got the
chance of understanding God,
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but they are being refused by the
authorities to understand God.
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Rather, if somebody
wants to understand,
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he is checked, he is harassed by the
name of brain-washing and mind control.
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This is Kali-yuga.
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Thank you very much [end]
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