0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,428 SB 6-01-11 HON 1976-05-12 Real Reform School 1 00:00:01,429 --> 00:00:05,898 ANNOUNCER: The following is a class on the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, 6th canto, 2 00:00:05,899 --> 00:00:08,358 1st chapter, text number 11, 3 00:00:08,359 --> 00:00:14,228 given by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, 4 00:00:14,229 --> 00:00:24,838 recorded on May 12th, 1976, in Honolulu, Hawaii. 5 00:00:24,839 --> 00:00:31,728 PRABHUPĀDA: The next step… Next step means to become cultured. 6 00:00:31,729 --> 00:00:39,498 First of all prāyaścitta: “You have done this wrong; you should be punished.” 7 00:00:39,499 --> 00:00:43,068 But the punishment will not rectify him. 8 00:00:43,069 --> 00:00:44,868 And that is practical. 9 00:00:44,869 --> 00:00:49,459 There are so many rules and regular punishment. 10 00:00:49,460 --> 00:00:51,329 In common cases… 11 00:00:51,330 --> 00:00:57,219 Just like every day and the police is giving a ticket to the motor driver. 12 00:00:57,220 --> 00:01:01,509 Still, the same thing is going on. 13 00:01:01,510 --> 00:01:11,639 So to keep oneself in darkness and makes rules and regulation will not help. 14 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:20,389 Just like your government has admitted that they have spent millions of dollars; 15 00:01:20,390 --> 00:01:28,289 they could not stop the intoxication habit of LSD. That’s a fact. 16 00:01:28,290 --> 00:01:37,569 But in our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement one who joins, he gives up immediately. 17 00:01:37,570 --> 00:01:39,999 That’s a fact. 18 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,149 What is the difference? 19 00:01:42,150 --> 00:01:53,359 The difference is that to stop one kind of karma by karma will not help. 20 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,779 Therefore it is said, karmaṇā karma-nirhāra [SB. 10.84.35]. 21 00:01:57,780 --> 00:02:05,569 One kind of activity is criminality, and one kind of activity just to punish him, 22 00:02:05,570 --> 00:02:07,989 this will not stop criminality. 23 00:02:07,990 --> 00:02:12,899 This is the real fact. 24 00:02:12,900 --> 00:02:17,989 He must be in knowledge. 25 00:02:17,990 --> 00:02:20,560 Cultivation of knowledge required. 26 00:02:20,561 --> 00:02:26,850 He must come to the senses, that “I am suffering. 27 00:02:26,851 --> 00:02:31,280 Every time I commit some criminality, I am punished. 28 00:02:31,281 --> 00:02:39,690 This is not very palatable. So why I cannot stop it?” 29 00:02:39,691 --> 00:02:45,960 This is the beginning of human life, that unless you come to this knowledge… 30 00:02:45,961 --> 00:02:50,260 Athāto brahma jijñāsā [Vedānta- sūtra]. This is called brahma-jijñāsā. 31 00:02:50,261 --> 00:02:55,510 So that is possible in the human form of life. A dog cannot. 32 00:02:55,511 --> 00:03:03,630 A dog comes within your room, and you drive him away, you punish him, and still, 33 00:03:03,631 --> 00:03:09,400 with some plea he will come. 34 00:03:09,401 --> 00:03:13,890 So therefore Parīkṣit… 35 00:03:13,891 --> 00:03:23,430 Śukadeva Gosvāmī suggests that we have to make him free from the avidyā, 36 00:03:23,431 --> 00:03:26,300 ignorance. 37 00:03:26,301 --> 00:03:29,170 That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. 38 00:03:29,171 --> 00:03:35,560 Everyone is under the spell of māyā. 39 00:03:35,561 --> 00:03:38,510 Punaḥ punaḥ. 40 00:03:38,511 --> 00:03:41,960 Bhūtvā bhūtvā pralīyate [Bg. 8.19]. It is going on, 41 00:03:41,961 --> 00:03:45,040 but we do not inquire 42 00:03:45,041 --> 00:03:51,271 that “Why I am repeatedly accepting the cycle of birth and death?” 43 00:03:51,272 --> 00:03:53,881 That is avidyā. 44 00:03:53,882 --> 00:04:00,551 They are, rather, supporting, “Suppose if I become dog, what is the wrong there?” 45 00:04:00,552 --> 00:04:04,281 They say like that: “What is the wrong there?” 46 00:04:04,282 --> 00:04:10,131 So this means avidyā, ignorance. 47 00:04:10,132 --> 00:04:19,671 So for eradicating ignorance from life, it requires culture, cultivation. 48 00:04:19,672 --> 00:04:27,051 That is suggested in the next verse. 49 00:04:27,052 --> 00:04:35,301 nāśnataḥ pathyam evānnaṁ vyādhayo 'bhibhavanti hi 50 00:04:35,302 --> 00:04:42,931 evaṁ niyamakṛd rājan śanaiḥ kṣemāya kalpate [SB 6.1.12] 51 00:04:42,932 --> 00:04:45,881 Just like if you go to the physician 52 00:04:45,882 --> 00:04:53,331 and the physician is giving medicine and he’s taking the medicine and cured, 53 00:04:53,332 --> 00:05:04,091 again he is affected with the disease, again going, so why it is happening? 54 00:05:04,092 --> 00:05:09,611 It is happening because he does not follow the rules 55 00:05:09,612 --> 00:05:14,761 and regulation given by the physician. Therefore it is happening. 56 00:05:14,762 --> 00:05:18,541 The physician… As soon as you go to a physician, 57 00:05:18,542 --> 00:05:23,631 you have to accept something “do not” and something “do.” 58 00:05:23,632 --> 00:05:26,842 That is called regulative principle. 59 00:05:26,843 --> 00:05:31,690 Without regulative principle you cannot correct yourself. 60 00:05:31,691 --> 00:05:41,400 So that regulative principle also cannot stay if you are not a devotee. 61 00:05:41,401 --> 00:05:44,670 This is the gradual process. 62 00:05:44,671 --> 00:05:50,980 Simply if I say, “Follow the rules and regulation,” 63 00:05:50,981 --> 00:05:55,770 it will not stay unless you become a devotee. 64 00:05:55,771 --> 00:06:03,340 That is the test of devotional service, or Kṛṣṇa consciousness. 65 00:06:03,341 --> 00:06:07,810 Because it is so powerful, devotional service, 66 00:06:07,811 --> 00:06:12,240 that as soon as you become a devotee, gradually, 67 00:06:12,241 --> 00:06:19,190 immediately, all the good qualities of your original position… 68 00:06:19,191 --> 00:06:24,760 Good qualities means we are part and parcel of God, so God is good, 69 00:06:24,761 --> 00:06:27,110 so we are also good. 70 00:06:27,111 --> 00:06:30,960 Otherwise how can I be part and parcel of God? 71 00:06:30,961 --> 00:06:34,750 If God is gold, then I am gold. 72 00:06:34,751 --> 00:06:38,730 So why I become iron? 73 00:06:38,731 --> 00:06:43,760 I am not iron, but I am covered with dirty things. 74 00:06:43,761 --> 00:06:46,361 I look like iron. 75 00:06:46,362 --> 00:06:48,331 This is the position. 76 00:06:48,332 --> 00:06:53,881 Actually I am not iron; I am gold, because I am part and parcel of God. 77 00:06:53,882 --> 00:06:57,871 If God is good, then I am good. 78 00:06:57,872 --> 00:07:07,241 So because I am covered by the material dirty things, I look like not gold. 79 00:07:07,242 --> 00:07:08,851 So this is the test. 80 00:07:08,852 --> 00:07:12,981 As soon as you become God conscious, 81 00:07:12,982 --> 00:07:19,581 your original all good qualities will manifest automatically. 82 00:07:19,582 --> 00:07:26,091 yasyāsti bhaktir bhagavaty akiñcanā sarvair guṇais tatra samāsate surāḥ 83 00:07:26,092 --> 00:07:28,901 harāv abhaktasya kuto mahad-guṇā 84 00:07:28,902 --> 00:07:33,501 mano-rathenāsati dhāvato bahiḥ [SB 5.18.12] 85 00:07:33,502 --> 00:07:38,871 That “One who has got unflinching faith, 86 00:07:38,872 --> 00:07:47,201 devotion to the Lord,” yasyāsti bhaktir bhagavaty akiñcanā “Without any motive, 87 00:07:47,202 --> 00:07:55,091 then the all the good qualities of God will manifest in him him very soon.” 88 00:07:55,092 --> 00:07:59,801 kṣipraṁ bhavati dharmātmā śaśvac-chāntiṁ nigacchati 89 00:07:59,802 --> 00:08:05,391 kaunteya pratijānīhi na me bhaktaḥ praṇaśyati [Bg. 9.31] 90 00:08:05,392 --> 00:08:08,605 api cet su-durācāro bhajate mām ananya-bhāk 91 00:08:08,606 --> 00:08:10,752 sādhur eva sa mantavyaḥ… [Bg. 9.30] 92 00:08:10,753 --> 00:08:14,562 These things are there. The devotional service is so nice. 93 00:08:14,563 --> 00:08:22,272 If you simply take to devotional service, then all good qualities will come. 94 00:08:22,273 --> 00:08:28,582 You don’t have to educate him, to send some reformatory school or this or that. 95 00:08:28,583 --> 00:08:31,522 That will be explained. 96 00:08:31,523 --> 00:08:35,582 In devotional service, Kṛṣṇa consciousness is so nice. 97 00:08:35,583 --> 00:08:39,972 If you simply take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, then all your… 98 00:08:39,973 --> 00:08:42,562 Because originally you are good. 99 00:08:42,563 --> 00:08:48,892 You have become bad on account of the material association. 100 00:08:48,893 --> 00:08:53,812 Therefore devotion means to be purified. 101 00:08:53,813 --> 00:08:58,722 This is a purificatory process from material contamination. 102 00:08:58,723 --> 00:09:01,116 sarvopādhi vinirmuktaṁ 103 00:09:01,117 --> 00:09:04,892 tat paratvena nirmalam [Cc. Madhya 19.170] 104 00:09:04,893 --> 00:09:06,502 If you think… Vimarśanam. 105 00:09:06,503 --> 00:09:13,872 If we think little soberly, that “I am thinking I am American or Indian. 106 00:09:13,873 --> 00:09:17,122 Am I American or Indian? 107 00:09:17,123 --> 00:09:21,292 This is upādhi—designation. 108 00:09:21,293 --> 00:09:26,743 By accident or somehow or other, I have got this body in America. 109 00:09:26,744 --> 00:09:28,353 Therefore I am American. 110 00:09:28,354 --> 00:09:35,423 But next time I may not take the American body. 111 00:09:35,424 --> 00:09:40,683 I may take another, Chinese body or something else.” 112 00:09:40,684 --> 00:09:47,293 So one has to understand that “I am neither American, neither Chinese, 113 00:09:47,294 --> 00:09:50,063 nor Indian, nor white, nor black.” 114 00:09:50,064 --> 00:09:55,883 Ahaṁ brahmāsmi: “I am spirit soul, part and parcel of God.” 115 00:09:55,884 --> 00:09:58,443 That is knowledge. 116 00:09:58,444 --> 00:10:02,833 We have to come to that. That is brahma-bhūtaḥ. 117 00:10:02,834 --> 00:10:07,033 brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā na śocati na kāṅkṣati 118 00:10:07,034 --> 00:10:12,003 samaḥ sarveṣu bhūteṣu mad-bhaktiṁ labhate parām [Bg. 18.54] 119 00:10:12,004 --> 00:10:20,673 So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is to purify the designation. 120 00:10:20,674 --> 00:10:27,043 And so long we are in the darkness of this designation, that “I am this,” 121 00:10:27,044 --> 00:10:33,613 “I am that,” “I am this,” “I am that,” that is ignorance. 122 00:10:33,614 --> 00:10:40,873 Suppose a thief—he is thinking that “If I do not steal, I cannot exist. 123 00:10:40,874 --> 00:10:42,723 I’ll die. 124 00:10:42,724 --> 00:10:46,794 So I cannot stop stealing. I must go on.” 125 00:10:46,795 --> 00:10:48,784 So this is ignorance. 126 00:10:48,785 --> 00:10:55,614 But if he thinks over that “The cats and dogs and the birds and beasts, 127 00:10:55,615 --> 00:10:58,754 they are very nicely eating. 128 00:10:58,755 --> 00:11:02,824 They are not stealing anyone’s… Whatever he gets by the grace of God, 129 00:11:02,825 --> 00:11:07,124 he is happy,” this is knowledge. 130 00:11:07,125 --> 00:11:08,934 Vimarśanam. 131 00:11:08,935 --> 00:11:12,064 Vimarśanam. 132 00:11:12,065 --> 00:11:17,964 īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam [Īśo mantra 1] Everything God’s property. 133 00:11:17,965 --> 00:11:26,554 And we are all part and parcel, sons of God, so the property is for us. 134 00:11:26,555 --> 00:11:27,934 It is not for others. 135 00:11:27,935 --> 00:11:32,264 Just like father’s property is meant for the son’s enjoyment. 136 00:11:32,265 --> 00:11:33,514 That’s a fact. 137 00:11:33,515 --> 00:11:37,624 So “If other sons, without any labor, 138 00:11:37,625 --> 00:11:42,624 without any endeavor, they can get their food, why I am stealing?” 139 00:11:42,625 --> 00:11:45,774 This is knowledge. 140 00:11:45,775 --> 00:11:47,374 This is knowledge. 141 00:11:47,375 --> 00:11:52,255 “Why I shall steal? There is enough food.” 142 00:11:52,256 --> 00:11:57,965 But because I haven’t got this knowledge that “God is the proprietor. 143 00:11:57,966 --> 00:12:01,215 I am His part and parcel, son. 144 00:12:01,216 --> 00:12:09,885 So if He has provided food for the elephant, who eats at a time forty kilos, 145 00:12:09,886 --> 00:12:17,215 he can eat, and I eat only, say, half a pound, I cannot eat?” 146 00:12:17,216 --> 00:12:18,825 This is knowledge. 147 00:12:18,826 --> 00:12:25,575 “Why shall I steal? I shall depend on God.” This is knowledge. 148 00:12:25,576 --> 00:12:30,015 So this is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. I am part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa. 149 00:12:30,016 --> 00:12:32,655 I am God’s part… Why shall I starve? 150 00:12:32,656 --> 00:12:38,455 There are so many… Out of 8,400,000 forms of life, 151 00:12:38,456 --> 00:12:43,995 eight million forms of life are less than the human being. 152 00:12:43,996 --> 00:12:46,445 Human being, only 400,000. 153 00:12:46,446 --> 00:12:50,175 Out of that, civilized men very few. 154 00:12:50,176 --> 00:12:55,795 Out of that, Americans are very few, Indians are very few. 155 00:12:55,796 --> 00:13:04,865 So “If so many, 8,300,000 forms of life, they can get without stealing, why shall I steal?” 156 00:13:04,866 --> 00:13:07,095 This is knowledge. 157 00:13:07,096 --> 00:13:09,225 Prāyaścitta vimarśanam. 158 00:13:09,226 --> 00:13:17,366 As soon as he becomes in quite perfect knowledge, then whole problem solved. 159 00:13:17,367 --> 00:13:22,276 So this is the instruction of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. 160 00:13:22,277 --> 00:13:25,156 If we take seriously, then there is no problem. 161 00:13:25,157 --> 00:13:28,066 Otherwise the problems will go on, 162 00:13:28,067 --> 00:13:30,946 and the so-called rascal scientists will give us bluff 163 00:13:30,947 --> 00:13:35,566 that “We are making solution of all problem.” 164 00:13:35,567 --> 00:13:36,996 It is never solved. 165 00:13:36,997 --> 00:13:43,736 It will never be solved in the future also, unless we take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. 166 00:13:43,737 --> 00:13:45,066 That is a fact. 167 00:13:45,067 --> 00:13:47,936 If you like, you can take it; other-wise suffer. 168 00:13:47,937 --> 00:13:53,674 Thank you very much. 169 00:13:53,675 --> 00:13:53,676 Subtitles by Gaurāṅga Sundara Dāsa, Causelessmercy.com