0
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:14,769
SB 6-01-24 HON 1976-05-24 Trade the Dark Well for VRN Forest
1
00:00:14,770 --> 00:00:18,267
ANNOUNCER: The following is a
class on the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam,
2
00:00:18,268 --> 00:00:23,341
6th canto, 1st chapter,
text number 24,
3
00:00:23,342 --> 00:00:29,253
given by His Divine Grace
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
4
00:00:29,254 --> 00:00:46,589
recorded on the 24th of May,
1976, in Honolulu, Hawaii.
5
00:00:46,590 --> 00:00:53,799
PRABHUPĀDA: So he was engaged
in maintaining the family.
6
00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:58,699
Everyone is engaged like that;
cats and dogs also do that.
7
00:00:58,700 --> 00:01:02,045
It is not very extraordinary thing.
8
00:01:02,046 --> 00:01:06,299
Sometimes they
say, “It is my duty.”
9
00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:14,432
Yes, it is duty, but the prime duty
is to solve the real problems:
10
00:01:14,433 --> 00:01:22,500
how to stop mṛtyu, janma-mṛtyu-
jarā-vyādhi, [Bg 13.9] that we forget.
11
00:01:22,501 --> 00:01:27,300
Minor duties we take priority.
12
00:01:27,301 --> 00:01:29,900
That is the present situation.
13
00:01:29,901 --> 00:01:36,207
They do not know that
there is life after death,
14
00:01:36,208 --> 00:01:43,370
and according to our karma,
we are getting the next life.
15
00:01:43,371 --> 00:01:48,320
This morning we were
discussing, Kṛṣṇa is always ready.
16
00:01:48,321 --> 00:01:50,627
Automatically it is going on.
17
00:01:50,628 --> 00:01:52,240
kāraṇaṁ guṇa saṅgo ’sya
[Bg 13.22]
18
00:01:52,241 --> 00:01:57,783
As you desire according
to the contamination,
19
00:01:57,784 --> 00:02:04,490
of different modes of material nature,
immediately the body’s ready.
20
00:02:04,491 --> 00:02:06,760
Immediately after death.
21
00:02:06,761 --> 00:02:15,110
So everyone is engaged in so-called
duties, but forget the real duty.
22
00:02:15,111 --> 00:02:17,280
This is called māyā.
23
00:02:17,281 --> 00:02:27,010
By the spell of māyā we forget what is the
objective of life, what is the aim of life.
24
00:02:27,011 --> 00:02:28,812
This is called māyā.
25
00:02:28,813 --> 00:02:32,230
We are thinking
this is our duty, no.
26
00:02:32,231 --> 00:02:38,818
Real duty in the human form
of life, is here is a chance,
27
00:02:38,819 --> 00:02:42,827
whether you want to go to back
to home, back to Godhead,
28
00:02:42,828 --> 00:02:47,930
or again you want to go to hell,
the repetition of birth and death.
29
00:02:47,931 --> 00:02:50,560
That is your choice.
30
00:02:50,561 --> 00:02:55,624
Otherwise why there are so many
scriptures, religious system,
31
00:02:55,625 --> 00:02:56,939
all over the world?
32
00:02:56,940 --> 00:02:58,541
It is not only in India.
33
00:02:58,542 --> 00:03:02,361
According to the capacity
of understanding,
34
00:03:02,362 --> 00:03:10,081
in every civilized human society
there is a system called religion.
35
00:03:10,082 --> 00:03:15,871
It may be Hindu religion, Christian
religion or Buddha religion—
36
00:03:15,872 --> 00:03:19,381
these are major religious systems—
37
00:03:19,382 --> 00:03:27,001
but the aim is how to make a solution
of the problems of life, that is all…
38
00:03:27,002 --> 00:03:33,068
But because they do not
seriously discuss nowadays,
39
00:03:33,069 --> 00:03:40,441
the religious propensity tendency
of the human society decreasing.
40
00:03:40,442 --> 00:03:43,771
It has become a also
money-making business.
41
00:03:43,772 --> 00:03:51,391
The priestly order, they think “As others
make some money by working hard,
42
00:03:51,392 --> 00:03:56,681
by professional or by doing
some business or working,
43
00:03:56,682 --> 00:03:59,964
so we shall also earn some money,
44
00:03:59,965 --> 00:04:04,114
by showing the church or
the temple or the mosque.”
45
00:04:04,115 --> 00:04:05,761
They have taken it like that.
46
00:04:05,762 --> 00:04:10,291
Therefore people have lost faith
in religion; this is the reason.
47
00:04:10,292 --> 00:04:14,391
Because those who are in charge
of the religious department,
48
00:04:14,392 --> 00:04:18,912
the brāhmaṇas, those who
are in charge of religion,
49
00:04:18,913 --> 00:04:24,743
the priestly order or the mawlānās
[Muslim priests] or the brāhmaṇas,
50
00:04:24,744 --> 00:04:27,639
they’re the same
order, their duty is,
51
00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:35,083
to keep people enlightened in the
real mission of life; that is their duty.
52
00:04:35,084 --> 00:04:39,273
But if they’re also doing the
same thing, sense gratification,
53
00:04:39,274 --> 00:04:42,133
how long they can cheat others?
54
00:04:42,134 --> 00:04:46,091
Therefore people have lost faith
in religion; this is the position.
55
00:04:46,092 --> 00:04:48,514
But that is not good.
56
00:04:48,515 --> 00:04:58,644
Because the system of religion has become
polluted, we should not give up religion.
57
00:04:58,645 --> 00:05:00,918
That is our prime duty.
58
00:05:00,919 --> 00:05:04,504
karamayi tasya eka bhūṣesya
[?]
59
00:05:04,505 --> 00:05:08,134
What is the difference
between animal and man?
60
00:05:08,135 --> 00:05:10,438
The animal has no religion.
61
00:05:10,439 --> 00:05:12,134
They have no religion.
62
00:05:12,135 --> 00:05:15,964
Eating, sleeping, sex and defense.
63
00:05:15,965 --> 00:05:20,024
āhāra-nidrā-bhaya-maithunaṁ ca
sāmānyam etat.
[Hitopadeśa 25]
64
00:05:20,025 --> 00:05:21,866
This is very easy to understand.
65
00:05:21,867 --> 00:05:23,844
The dog is eating; I am eating.
66
00:05:23,845 --> 00:05:26,227
Dog is sleeping; I am sleeping.
67
00:05:26,228 --> 00:05:30,194
Dog is enjoying sex; I
am also enjoying sex.
68
00:05:30,195 --> 00:05:32,705
Dog is also afraid; I am also afraid.
69
00:05:32,706 --> 00:05:35,102
So what is the difference
between dog and me?
70
00:05:35,103 --> 00:05:41,242
The only difference is that dog
has no religion; I have got religion.
71
00:05:41,243 --> 00:05:48,264
So if I give up religion, life of
religiosity, then I am equal to,
72
00:05:48,265 --> 00:05:51,604
dharmeṇa hīnāḥ paśubhiḥ samānāḥ
[Hitopadeśa 25]
73
00:05:51,605 --> 00:06:00,554
So this Ajāmila, on account of
bad association with prostitute,
74
00:06:00,555 --> 00:06:06,697
he lost his character and
he became thief, cheater,
75
00:06:06,698 --> 00:06:09,024
somehow or other
being punished.
76
00:06:09,025 --> 00:06:10,491
So in this way,
77
00:06:10,492 --> 00:06:19,284
while he was maintaining his children
and family, then the time of death came.
78
00:06:19,285 --> 00:06:25,455
That will not wait, that “I have
not finished my duty, family duty.
79
00:06:25,456 --> 00:06:27,492
Please wait few years more.”
80
00:06:27,493 --> 00:06:30,045
“Oh, that is not possible.”
81
00:06:30,046 --> 00:06:35,505
So kālo… Atyagāt.
82
00:06:35,506 --> 00:06:42,805
kālo atyagāt mahān rājan
aṣṭāśīti āyuṣaḥ samāḥ
[SB 6.1.23]
83
00:06:42,806 --> 00:06:48,505
He became very old, eighty-
eight years old, aṣṭaśīti.
84
00:06:48,506 --> 00:06:53,805
Aṣṭa means eight, aśīti
means eighty-eight.
85
00:06:53,806 --> 00:06:57,865
In this way, aṣṭāśītyā
āyuṣaḥ samāḥ. [SB 6.1.23]
86
00:06:57,866 --> 00:07:02,539
So at that time he had ten sons.
87
00:07:02,540 --> 00:07:07,855
tasya pravayasaḥ putrāḥ
[SB 6.1.24]
88
00:07:07,856 --> 00:07:15,327
He begot so many
children, number is ten.
89
00:07:15,328 --> 00:07:19,185
So putra, how many?
90
00:07:19,186 --> 00:07:23,297
Daśa ten, ten children he had.
91
00:07:23,298 --> 00:07:27,015
teṣāṁ tu yaḥ avamaḥ
[SB 6.1.24]
92
00:07:27,016 --> 00:07:36,955
Out of the ten sons, the youngest son,
teṣāṁ tu yaḥ avamaḥ bālaḥ, [SB 6.1.24]
93
00:07:36,956 --> 00:07:43,965
the child, nārāyaṇaḥ nāmnā,
he kept the name Nārāyaṇa.
94
00:07:43,966 --> 00:07:48,826
Nārāyaṇa dāsa, just like we
give name to an initiate.
95
00:07:48,827 --> 00:07:53,456
So this is his great fortune.
96
00:07:53,457 --> 00:07:59,006
He gave the youngest
son the name Nārāyaṇa.
97
00:07:59,007 --> 00:08:05,936
Naturally father, mother becomes
affectionate to the youngest baby.
98
00:08:05,937 --> 00:08:16,596
So by way of calling the young
child, he was chanting “Nārāyaṇa.”
99
00:08:16,597 --> 00:08:24,226
This is very good system, that if you keep
the name of your children, Nārāyaṇa,
100
00:08:24,227 --> 00:08:33,726
Govinda, Kṛṣṇa, Rāma, then you will get
some chance to chanting this Hare Kṛṣṇa.
101
00:08:33,727 --> 00:08:38,917
Therefore in India
still the system is,
102
00:08:38,918 --> 00:08:45,732
they keep some name which
is with reference to Kṛṣṇa.
103
00:08:45,733 --> 00:08:50,206
He has got thousands of names,
so you can keep one name,
104
00:08:50,207 --> 00:08:55,606
so that you have the opportunity
of repeating, chanting,
105
00:08:55,607 --> 00:08:58,553
the holy name of the Lord.
106
00:08:58,554 --> 00:09:07,263
So, bālaḥ nārāyaṇaḥ sakṛt, pitroḥ
ca dayitaṁ bhṛśam. [break] [splice]
107
00:09:07,264 --> 00:09:13,890
Nirīkṣamāṇa tat līlām;
and the child is walking,
108
00:09:13,891 --> 00:09:20,234
the child is doing something,
coming to the mother, capturing.
109
00:09:20,235 --> 00:09:23,450
This līlā, this pastime,
110
00:09:23,451 --> 00:09:29,028
nirīkṣamāṇaḥ tan līlā mumude [SB
6.1.25] it was very, very pleasing.
111
00:09:29,029 --> 00:09:31,214
jaraṭho bhṛśam
[SB 6.1.25]
112
00:09:31,215 --> 00:09:33,844
In this way,
113
00:09:33,845 --> 00:09:41,024
bhuñjānaḥ prapiban sa kalam
bālakaṁ sneha-yantritaḥ
114
00:09:41,025 --> 00:09:48,274
bhojayan pāyayan mūḍho
na vedāgatam antakam
[SB 6.1.26]
115
00:09:48,275 --> 00:09:55,664
He was very busy in enjoying the
child’s, how you would say, pastimes,
116
00:09:55,665 --> 00:10:01,114
and feeding him and taking him; in
this way he was very much pleased,
117
00:10:01,115 --> 00:10:04,289
“My life will go like this.”
118
00:10:04,290 --> 00:10:07,997
But the time of death came.
119
00:10:07,998 --> 00:10:13,744
bhojayan pāyayan mūḍho
na vedāgatam antakam
[SB 6.1.26]
120
00:10:13,745 --> 00:10:18,054
Antakam means
the last day of life.
121
00:10:18,055 --> 00:10:20,824
Antakam means death.
122
00:10:20,825 --> 00:10:24,098
So death is called māyā.
123
00:10:24,099 --> 00:10:25,684
You are thinking,
124
00:10:25,685 --> 00:10:31,111
“Now I have arranged everything,
things are going very nicely.
125
00:10:31,112 --> 00:10:32,693
Now I’m very happy.”
126
00:10:32,694 --> 00:10:36,754
But, all of a sudden,
the death comes.
127
00:10:36,755 --> 00:10:40,234
That you cannot
avoid; all of a sudden.
128
00:10:40,235 --> 00:10:41,159
That is…
129
00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,844
Death is described in
the Bhagavad-gītā.
130
00:10:43,845 --> 00:10:45,471
What is that death?
131
00:10:45,472 --> 00:10:50,174
That death is Kṛṣṇa, ūrdhva.
132
00:10:50,175 --> 00:10:54,502
That is stated in
the Bhagavad-gītā:
133
00:10:54,503 --> 00:10:57,514
mṛtyu sarva-haraś ca aham
[Bg 10.34]
134
00:10:57,515 --> 00:11:05,425
That means death will come, your all
asset, your so-called children, your family,
135
00:11:05,426 --> 00:11:11,255
your bank balance, your friends,
your country, your leadership,
136
00:11:11,256 --> 00:11:16,095
your pride and
everything will be taken.
137
00:11:16,096 --> 00:11:18,564
That will be taken by Kṛṣṇa.
138
00:11:18,565 --> 00:11:24,205
The atheist class who
does not believe in God,
139
00:11:24,206 --> 00:11:30,805
he’ll see God at the end of life
when he cannot do anything.
140
00:11:30,806 --> 00:11:35,925
But before that, if he sees
God, then his life is saved.
141
00:11:35,926 --> 00:11:40,035
tattva dehaṁ punar janma
naiti mam eti so 'rjuna
[Bg. 4.9]
142
00:11:40,036 --> 00:11:41,965
But that he’ll not
accept, “What is God?
143
00:11:41,966 --> 00:11:43,745
I don’t care for… There is no God.”
144
00:11:43,746 --> 00:11:49,405
“All right, wait, God will come.”
145
00:11:49,406 --> 00:11:52,944
And at that time he said
that the Hiraṇyakaśipu,
146
00:11:52,945 --> 00:12:00,919
he always defied the son’s, the
small child, five-years-old boy,
147
00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,235
his only fault was he was
chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa.
148
00:12:04,236 --> 00:12:10,375
And even the father, what to
speak of others, he became saved.
149
00:12:10,376 --> 00:12:14,839
So don’t think that
Kṛṣṇa consciousness,
150
00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,895
will go without any difficult;
there will be so many difficulties.
151
00:12:19,896 --> 00:12:22,306
Even your father will be angry.
152
00:12:22,307 --> 00:12:25,375
This is the history.
153
00:12:25,376 --> 00:12:32,425
So this father, Hiraṇyakaśipu,
he defied God:
154
00:12:32,426 --> 00:12:33,083
“Who is God?
155
00:12:33,084 --> 00:12:34,425
I am God.
156
00:12:34,426 --> 00:12:37,138
You, take my anger.”
157
00:12:37,139 --> 00:12:40,275
The child said, “My dear
father, you are not God.”
158
00:12:40,276 --> 00:12:43,701
He would never, never
address his father as “father.”
159
00:12:43,702 --> 00:12:48,374
He addressed him “the
best of the asuras.”
160
00:12:48,375 --> 00:12:51,586
“My dear best of the asuras,”
161
00:12:51,587 --> 00:12:54,886
tat sādhu manye asura-vārya dehinām
[SB 7.5.5]
162
00:12:54,887 --> 00:12:58,336
After all, the relationship
is father and son.
163
00:12:58,337 --> 00:13:01,100
So one day the father took him,
164
00:13:01,101 --> 00:13:05,268
“My dear son, what you have learned,
the best thing, from your teachers?
165
00:13:05,269 --> 00:13:07,126
Tell me.”
166
00:13:07,127 --> 00:13:08,607
“Yes, I’ll tell you.”
167
00:13:08,608 --> 00:13:09,836
“What is that?”
168
00:13:09,837 --> 00:13:12,816
tat sādhu manye asura-varya
[SB 7.5.5]
169
00:13:12,817 --> 00:13:15,145
He never addressed “father.”
170
00:13:15,146 --> 00:13:16,866
“O the best of the asuras.”
171
00:13:16,867 --> 00:13:20,376
Asura-vārya means
“the best of the asura.”
172
00:13:20,377 --> 00:13:23,506
Tad sādhu manye: “I think
that is very good thing.”
173
00:13:23,507 --> 00:13:25,016
“What is that?”
174
00:13:25,017 --> 00:13:32,936
tad sādhu manye asura-vārya dehināṁ
sadā samudvigna-dhiyām asad-grahāt
[SB 7.5.5]
175
00:13:32,937 --> 00:13:38,500
“All these people, they’re
simply full of anxieties.”
176
00:13:38,501 --> 00:13:40,196
That’s a fact.
177
00:13:40,197 --> 00:13:42,146
Who is not full of anxieties?
178
00:13:42,147 --> 00:13:46,176
Those who are in this material world,
who can say, “No, I have no anxiety?”
179
00:13:46,177 --> 00:13:47,236
That is not possible.
180
00:13:47,237 --> 00:13:52,627
Either you become President Nixon or
in the street beggar, there is anxiety.
181
00:13:52,628 --> 00:13:56,126
At any moment danger will come.
182
00:13:56,127 --> 00:13:58,157
They're busy.
183
00:13:58,158 --> 00:14:04,037
So the child said, “My
dear best of the asuras,
184
00:14:04,038 --> 00:14:08,244
I think that is the best thing,
185
00:14:08,245 --> 00:14:13,302
for the persons who have accepted
this material body, asad grahā…”
186
00:14:13,303 --> 00:14:14,997
Why anxiety?
187
00:14:14,998 --> 00:14:19,015
The anxiety is because
this material body.
188
00:14:19,016 --> 00:14:22,177
I am thinking of “I may be hot.”
189
00:14:22,178 --> 00:14:24,610
Oh, what’s that hot?
190
00:14:24,611 --> 00:14:26,827
The hot means body.
191
00:14:26,828 --> 00:14:33,637
The soul is never hurt; soul is eternal:
na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre [Bg. 2.20].
192
00:14:33,638 --> 00:14:35,813
That they do not know.
193
00:14:35,814 --> 00:14:38,667
They think this body:
“I am this body.
194
00:14:38,668 --> 00:14:42,847
So I’ll be hurt, I’ll die, I’ll this,”
and so on and so many.
195
00:14:42,848 --> 00:14:48,267
Simply anxiety: “How I
shall protect my body?
196
00:14:48,268 --> 00:14:52,637
How I shall protect my
bodily relationship?”
197
00:14:52,638 --> 00:14:56,285
Everything in connection
with the body.
198
00:14:56,286 --> 00:14:58,277
Everything asat.
199
00:14:58,278 --> 00:15:02,657
The body’s asat,
perishable, or temporary.
200
00:15:02,658 --> 00:15:05,592
So whatever you have got in
relationship with this body
201
00:15:05,593 --> 00:15:09,473
—my country, my society, my bank
balance, my money, my wife, children
202
00:15:09,474 --> 00:15:14,384
—everything in the body, they
are also asat, temporary.
203
00:15:14,385 --> 00:15:18,847
So they are very, very
anxiety, tat sādhu manye.
204
00:15:18,848 --> 00:15:22,575
So “I want to relieve
them from this anxiety.”
205
00:15:22,576 --> 00:15:23,628
What is that?
206
00:15:23,629 --> 00:15:29,658
tad sādhu manye asura-vārya dehināṁ
sadā samudvigna-dhiyām asad-grahāt
[SB 7.5.5]
207
00:15:29,659 --> 00:15:31,599
Then, what you advise?
208
00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,768
hitvātmā-pātaṁ gṛham andha-kūpam
[SB 7.5.5]
209
00:15:35,769 --> 00:15:47,938
He’s fallen in this dark region
of black well, this family life.
210
00:15:47,939 --> 00:15:50,918
hitvātmā-pātaṁ gṛham andha-kūpam
[SB 7.5.5]
211
00:15:50,919 --> 00:15:56,288
Gṛha, we can take this material
world, even up to the sky,
212
00:15:56,289 --> 00:16:02,358
that is also another bondage,
either in society, or in country,
213
00:16:02,359 --> 00:16:05,998
or in this body, or within
this material universe—
214
00:16:05,999 --> 00:16:11,228
wherever you want—that
is andha-kūpa, dark well.
215
00:16:11,229 --> 00:16:19,158
So he advises, “Give up this darkness,”
hitvātmā-pātam, “because it will kill you.”
216
00:16:19,159 --> 00:16:20,918
In this dark well you’ll be killed.
217
00:16:20,919 --> 00:16:26,558
Just like, the dark well, we are put
into the dark well, you’ll be killed.
218
00:16:26,559 --> 00:16:33,518
hitvātmā pātaṁ gṛham andha-kūpaṁ
vanaṁ gato yad dharim āśrayeta
[SB 7.5.5]
219
00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:39,729
That is the first… You should give up
this dark well and go to the forest.
220
00:16:39,730 --> 00:16:42,528
Vanam, come to Vṛndāvana.
221
00:16:42,529 --> 00:16:44,333
Vanam means forest.
222
00:16:44,334 --> 00:16:49,583
We have constructed very
nice temple, come there.
223
00:16:49,584 --> 00:16:50,605
And,
224
00:16:50,606 --> 00:16:53,668
vanaṁ gato yad dharim āśrayeta
[SB 7.5.5]
225
00:16:53,669 --> 00:16:58,608
Vanaṁ gato means to come to
the forest; so what is business?
226
00:16:58,609 --> 00:17:02,824
The business is to
take shelter of Kṛṣṇa.
227
00:17:02,825 --> 00:17:06,739
Then, he’ll be free
from all these things.
228
00:17:06,740 --> 00:17:13,437
Vanaṁ gato yad, otherwise like monkey,
descendants of monkey, if you go…
229
00:17:13,438 --> 00:17:19,425
The monkeys are in the forest, but
they do not take shelter of Hari.
230
00:17:19,426 --> 00:17:22,987
So their simply going
to the forest is no use.
231
00:17:22,988 --> 00:17:26,959
One has to take shelter
of the lotus feet of Kṛṣṇa.
232
00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,719
vanaṁ gato yad dharim āśraya
[SB 7.5.5]
233
00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:34,288
Therefore Kṛṣṇa has
made this Vṛndāvana.
234
00:17:34,289 --> 00:17:39,869
Anyone goes there, he gets
shelter of Kṛṣṇa’s lotus feet,
235
00:17:39,870 --> 00:17:42,129
and his life becomes successful.
236
00:17:42,130 --> 00:17:48,436
Thank you very much.
237
00:17:48,437 --> 00:17:48,438
Subtitles by Gopī Kāntā Dāsa, Causelessmercy.com
Edited by Pratyatoṣa Dāsa