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SB 6-01-64 VRN 1975-09-01 Above Material Nature
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ANNOUNCER: Next is a class
on the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam
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6th canto first chapter,
text number 64,
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given by His Divine Grace
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda,
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recorded on September 1st,
1975 in Vrindavan, India.
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PRABHUPĀDA:
tām eva toṣayām āsa
pitṛyeṇārthena yāvatā
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grāmyair manoramaiḥ kāmaiḥ
prasīdeta yathā tathā
[SB 6.1.64]
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So after seeing the woman,
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he was meditating always,
twenty-four hours,
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about the subject, lusty desires.
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kāmais tais tair hṛta-jñānāḥ
[Bg. 7.20]
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When one becomes lusty, then one
becomes lost of all intelligence.
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The whole world is going on, on
the basis of these lusty desires.
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This is material world.
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And because I am lusty, you
are lusty, every one of us,
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so as soon as my
desires are not fulfilled,
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your desires are not fulfilled,
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then I become your enemy,
you become my enemy.
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I cannot see you are
making very good progress.
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You cannot see me making
very good progress.
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This is material world, envious,
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lusty desires, kāma, krodha,
lobha, moha, mātsarya.
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This is the basis of
this material world.
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So he became…
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The training was
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that he was training to
become a brāhmaṇa,
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śamo, dama, but the
progress became checked
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on account of being
attached to a woman.
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Therefore according
to Vedic civilization,
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the woman is accepted as
hindrance to spiritual advancement.
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The whole basic civilization is
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how to avoid…
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the Woman...
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You do not think that
only woman is woman.
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The man is also woman.
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Don’t think that the woman
is condemned; man is not.
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Woman means enjoyed,
and man means enjoyer.
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So this feeling, this
feeling is condemned.
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If I see one woman for
enjoyment, so I am man.
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And if woman also sees another
man for enjoyment, she is also man.
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Woman means enjoyed
and man means enjoyer.
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So anyone who has got
feeling of enjoyment,
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he is considered to be man.
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So here both sexes
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meant for…
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Everyone is planning,
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“How I shall enjoy?”
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Therefore he is puruṣa, artificially.
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Otherwise, originally, we are all
prakṛti, jīva, either woman or man.
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This is outward dress.
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In the Bhagavad-gītā it is said,
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apareyam itas tu (anyāṁ)
viddhi me prakṛtiṁ parām
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jīva-bhūtāḥ mahā-bāho
yayedaṁ dhāryate jagat
[Bg. 7.5]
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Prakṛti…
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We are prakṛti, material nature,
spiritual nature, parā prakṛti.
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The material nature
is aparā prakṛti,
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and we living entities, we are
trying to enjoy this prakṛti.
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Therefore sometimes
the living entity,
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either man or woman, he
is described as puruṣa.
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Puruṣa means the one who keeps
the feeling of becoming enjoyer.
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That is puruṣa.
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So this material world
is prakṛti and puruṣa.
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It is said in the Śrīmad Bhāgavatam
in the instruction of Ṛṣabhadeva,
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puṁsaṁ striyā mithunī-bhāvam etat
[SB 5.5.8]
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The whole basic principle of
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material civilization is the attachment
between man and woman.
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Puṁsaṁ striyā mithunī-
bhāva. Mithunī-bhāvam is sex.
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And tayor mitho
hṛdaya-granthim āhuḥ.
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On account of this sex relationship,
the man or woman is bound up.
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Hṛdaya-granthi. Granthi means
knot, and hṛdaya means heart.
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So the man is thinking of the woman,
and the woman is thinking of man.
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hṛdaya granthim āhuḥ
[SB 5.5.8]
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Then we require
material possession.
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ato gṛha-kṣetra-sutāpta-vittair
janasya moho 'yam ahaṁ mameti
[SB 5.5.8]
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This is our material,
conditional life.
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So this man, although he was
being trained up as a brāhmaṇa,
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his attention was diverted
all of a sudden by seeing
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one śūdra and śūdrāṇī embracing,
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kissing, talking.
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So that became his meditation.
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Instead of meditating on Viṣṇu,
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he began to meditate
on that śūdrani.
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svayam eva toṣayām āsa
[?]
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In the first verse,
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tan-nimitta-smara-vyāja
graha-grasto vicetasaḥ
[SB 6.1.63]
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became mad, vicetasa, bewildered,
as if haunted by ghost.
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tām eva manasā dhyāyan
[SB 6.1.63]
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Always meditating, “How
shall I get that woman?
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How shall I please that woman
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so that she may satisfy
my lusty desires?”
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Therefore tām eva toṣayām āsa [?]: “His
only business was how to please her.”
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Now they require money.
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So he was not earning
money, but pitṛyeṇa,
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whatever money he inherited
from the father’s earning…
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The son generally
inherits father’s property.
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then He was the only son.
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So he was squandering
the father’s money
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in that way just to
please that śūdrāṇī—
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tām eva toṣayām āsa
pitṛyenārthena yāvatā
[SB 6.1.64]
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as much as possible.
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If he could get more money,
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then he would have spent
them only for that women.
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Grāmyaiḥ.
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grāmyair manoramaiḥ…
[SB 6.1.64]
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This word grāmya
is very significant.
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Grāmya means external, material.
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grāmyair manoramaiḥ…
[SB 6.1.64]
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By the sense gratification,
whatever we find very pleasing,
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that is called grāmya manorama.
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Actually that is not pleasing.
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That is entangling.
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But he became entangled.
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So grāmyair manoramaiḥ kāmaiḥ.
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The basic principle is lust.
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…kāmaiḥ
prasīdeta yaḥ…
[SB 6.1.64]
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They wanted to satisfy the woman
here and there as soon as meets.
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We can see these
examples very often.
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Then next step was,
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viprāṁ sva-bhāryām aprauḍhāṁ
kule mahati lambhitāṁ
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visasarjācirāt pāpaḥ
svairiṇyāpāṅga-viddha-dhīḥ
[SB 6.1.65]
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There are three kinds of women:
Kāmiṇī, svairiṇi, and puṁścalī.
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Puṁścalī.
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Svairiṇi means free, freedom.
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Nobody is controller.
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That is called svairiṇi.
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And kāmiṇī means to
attract, very much attract.
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And another, puṁścalī—
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living with woman, and,
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man for some time; giving up;
again another; again another.
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That is exemplified
by the lightning.
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You have seen the lightning
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— immediately, within a second,
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from this cloud to that cloud,
that cloud to that cloud.
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So they are called svairiṇi.
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So three divisions.
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Similarly, there are
divisions of men also.
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So in this way the material
world is very, very entangled.
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And if we become
Kṛṣṇa conscious,
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then we become free
from this entanglement.
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All these criticisms or the
divisions are there for grāmyaiḥ.
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Therefore Caitanya Mahāprabhu has
advised, grāma-kathā nā śunibe [?],
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bhāla nā khāibe nā
bhāla nā karibe
[?]
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This is vairāgya—“Don’t
indulge in grāmya-kathā.”
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Therefore we always advise,
“Don’t read newspaper.
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Don’t read any other book,” because
it is full of grāmya-kathā, grāmyaiḥ.
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So to avoid it as far as possible.
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There is no need.
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What is the news of a
grāmya-kathā newspaper?
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The same thing repeated.
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“Here there is flood, where
there is train disaster,
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where there is
accident, and political,
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one politician is giving speech,
another politician is giving speech.”
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These are the grāmya things.
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So we should save ourself.
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grāmyair manoramaiḥ…
[SB 6.1.64]
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These externally
very attractive news,
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we should avoid it completely.
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We shall simply talk of Kṛṣṇa.
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That is the safest method.
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We shall simply talk kṛṣṇa-kathā.
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And kṛṣṇa-kathā means
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what Kṛṣṇa has said.
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That is kṛṣṇa-kathā.
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Or what is spoken about Kṛṣṇa.
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So Bhagavad-gītā means kṛṣṇa-
kathā, what Kṛṣṇa has said.
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And Śrīmad Bhāgavatam
is also kṛṣṇa-kathā
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because everything
said about Kṛṣṇa.
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So we don’t We should not
indulge in grāmya-kathā.
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That will mislead us.
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And if we do not indulge
in grāmya-kathā,
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but you if we make
advancement on Kṛṣṇa-kathā,
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then we are always situated
on transcendental position.
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We are no more affected by
the modes of material nature.
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sa guṇān samatītyaitān
brahma-bhūyāya kalpate
[Bg. 14.26]
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So we should stick
to this principle.
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Then we shall be saved.
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Otherwise, either I
become man or woman,
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we are all condemned because we
are implicated with grāmya-kathā.
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grāmya-kathā should be avoided.
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The temple is specially
meant for Kṛṣṇa-kathā.
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Here there is no other
business than Kṛṣṇa.
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Therefore a temple is always
transcendental, nirguṇa.
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Nirguṇa.
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If you live in the forest,
that is sattva-guṇa.
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If you live in the city,
that is rajo-guṇa.
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And if you live in the brothel or
liquor house or gambling house,
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that is tamo-guṇa.
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But if you live in the
temple, that is nirguṇa.
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trai-guṇya-viṣayā vedā
nistrai-guṇyo bhavārjuna
[Bg. 2.45]
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This is advice of Kṛṣṇa.
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The whole world is complicated with
the three modes of material nature,
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and you have to become
above this material nature.
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nistrai-guëyo bhavärjuna
[Bg. 2.45]
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