0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,599 SB 7-09-03 MAY 1977-02-17 Easily Available for Devotees 1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,889 ANNOUNCER: The following is a class on the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, 7th canto, 2 00:00:05,890 --> 00:00:10,419 9th chapter, text number 3, given by His Divine Grace 3 00:00:10,420 --> 00:00:18,189 A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, recorded on February 17th, 1977, 4 00:00:18,190 --> 00:00:21,889 in Māyāpur, India. [splice] 5 00:00:21,890 --> 00:00:27,489 PRABHUPĀDA: prahrādaṁ preṣayām āsa brahmāvasthitam antike 6 00:00:27,490 --> 00:00:35,619 tāta praśamayopehi sva-pitre kupitaṁ prabhum [SB 7.9.3] 7 00:00:35,620 --> 00:00:44,369 So, Nṛsiṁhadeva was very, very angry. 8 00:00:44,370 --> 00:00:51,520 Now the atheist class of men, 9 00:00:51,521 --> 00:01:04,420 who do not know what is the nature of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, 10 00:01:04,421 --> 00:01:13,740 they will say, “Why God should become angry?” 11 00:01:13,741 --> 00:01:18,890 So God, why He should not be angry? 12 00:01:18,891 --> 00:01:25,010 God must have everything; otherwise how He is God complete? 13 00:01:25,011 --> 00:01:28,440 Pūrṇam. 14 00:01:28,441 --> 00:01:35,780 The anger is also another quality of living symptom. 15 00:01:35,781 --> 00:01:42,540 The stone does not become angry because he’s stone. 16 00:01:42,541 --> 00:01:48,590 But any living being, he becomes angry. 17 00:01:48,591 --> 00:01:51,570 That is a quality. 18 00:01:51,571 --> 00:01:55,570 And why God should not be angry? 19 00:01:55,571 --> 00:02:06,710 They imagine God; not they have got any factual conception of God. 20 00:02:06,711 --> 00:02:08,970 They imagine that “God must be like this. 21 00:02:08,971 --> 00:02:11,330 God must be nonviolent. 22 00:02:11,331 --> 00:02:16,090 God must be very peaceful.” 23 00:02:16,091 --> 00:02:18,400 Why? 24 00:02:18,401 --> 00:02:21,660 Wherefrom the anger comes? 25 00:02:21,661 --> 00:02:24,290 It comes from God. 26 00:02:24,291 --> 00:02:28,450 Otherwise there is no existence of anger. 27 00:02:28,451 --> 00:02:30,801 Everything is there. 28 00:02:30,802 --> 00:02:37,431 janmādy asya yataḥ [Bhāg.1.1.1] That is the definition of Brahman. 29 00:02:37,432 --> 00:02:45,191 Whatever we have got in experience and whatever we haven’t got in experience… 30 00:02:45,192 --> 00:02:49,151 We haven’t got everything in experience. 31 00:02:49,152 --> 00:02:55,930 Just like about Nṛsiṁhadeva it is said Lakṣmī also had no experience 32 00:02:55,931 --> 00:03:02,785 that the Lord can become half- lion, half-man. Even Lakṣmī, 33 00:03:02,786 --> 00:03:12,571 what to speak of others. Lakṣmī, she is constant companion of the Lord. 34 00:03:12,572 --> 00:03:20,501 So it is said, aṣruta. What is that? 35 00:03:20,502 --> 00:03:23,811 Adṛṣṭa. 36 00:03:23,812 --> 00:03:29,881 Adṛṣṭa aṣruta pūrvatvāt. 37 00:03:29,882 --> 00:03:42,071 She became afraid because she also never saw such gigantic form and half-lion, 38 00:03:42,072 --> 00:03:44,451 half-man. 39 00:03:44,452 --> 00:03:52,201 God has so many forms: advaita acyuta anādi ananta-rūpam [Bs. 5.33] 40 00:03:52,202 --> 00:03:57,651 Ananta-rūpam; still, advaita. 41 00:03:57,652 --> 00:04:08,164 So in the Bhāgavata it is said that God’s incarnations are exactly 42 00:04:08,165 --> 00:04:19,762 like the waves of the river or the sea. Nobody can count. 43 00:04:19,763 --> 00:04:26,892 You’ll be tired if you want to count the number of waves. 44 00:04:26,893 --> 00:04:29,532 It is impossible. 45 00:04:29,533 --> 00:04:36,762 So God’s incarnations are as many as there are waves. 46 00:04:36,763 --> 00:04:39,992 So you cannot count the waves; 47 00:04:39,993 --> 00:04:47,192 therefore you cannot understand how many incarnations He has got. 48 00:04:47,193 --> 00:04:53,562 Even Lakṣmī, even Anantadeva, they haven’t got. 49 00:04:53,563 --> 00:05:00,032 So our experience—very limited. 50 00:05:00,033 --> 00:05:06,692 Why should we say that “God cannot have this, God cannot have…” like that? 51 00:05:06,693 --> 00:05:12,472 This is godlessness. They make section. 52 00:05:12,473 --> 00:05:20,672 They say… Even in our so- called Vedic Arya-samajhi, 53 00:05:20,673 --> 00:05:25,202 they assert that God cannot take incarnation. 54 00:05:25,203 --> 00:05:27,132 Why? 55 00:05:27,133 --> 00:05:38,202 If God is all-powerful, then why He shall not be able to accept incarnation? 56 00:05:38,203 --> 00:05:45,612 Therefore we should not take lessons of God from these rascals. 57 00:05:45,613 --> 00:05:56,002 We should take lessons of God from śāstra, from guru and from sādhu, 58 00:05:56,003 --> 00:06:02,192 one who has seen God, tattva-darśina. 59 00:06:02,193 --> 00:06:12,263 Tad viddhi praṇipātena paripraśnena sevayā [Bg. 4.34] 60 00:06:12,264 --> 00:06:15,353 upadekṣyanti tad jñānam [Bg. 4.34] 61 00:06:15,354 --> 00:06:18,583 Tad jñānam means spiritual knowledge. 62 00:06:18,584 --> 00:06:20,693 Tad-vijñānam. 63 00:06:20,694 --> 00:06:31,323 tad-vijñānartham sa gurum evābhigacchet samit-pāṇiḥ śrotriyaṁ brahma-niṣṭham [MU 1.2.12] 64 00:06:31,324 --> 00:06:36,133 So tad-vijñānam, you cannot imagine, speculate. 65 00:06:36,134 --> 00:06:38,703 That is not possible. 66 00:06:38,704 --> 00:06:48,503 You have to learn it from a person who is tattva-darśinaḥ, who has seen God. 67 00:06:48,504 --> 00:06:53,863 Even by seeing, you cannot… Just like Lakṣmīdevi, she is seeing every moment, 68 00:06:53,864 --> 00:06:57,543 constant… Even she does not know. 69 00:06:57,544 --> 00:06:59,353 Asruta-purva. 70 00:06:59,354 --> 00:07:03,023 Adrstāsruta-purva. 71 00:07:03,024 --> 00:07:10,663 So whatever we see or we do not see, everything is there. 72 00:07:10,664 --> 00:07:13,383 Ahaṁ sarvasya prabhavaḥ. 73 00:07:13,384 --> 00:07:16,483 Kṛṣṇa says: “Whatever you see, 74 00:07:16,484 --> 00:07:20,653 whatever you experience, I am the origin of everything.” 75 00:07:20,654 --> 00:07:22,973 So anger must be there. 76 00:07:22,974 --> 00:07:25,294 How you can say that “God should not be angry. 77 00:07:25,295 --> 00:07:26,607 God should not be like this. 78 00:07:26,608 --> 00:07:27,277 God should not…?” 79 00:07:27,278 --> 00:07:28,187 No. 80 00:07:28,188 --> 00:07:30,517 That is not fact. 81 00:07:30,518 --> 00:07:34,417 That is our inexperience. 82 00:07:34,418 --> 00:07:38,407 So Brahmā, Lord Brahmā, 83 00:07:38,408 --> 00:07:50,178 he is supposed to be the first living being within this universe. 84 00:07:50,179 --> 00:07:56,868 Lakṣmī became afraid; Brahmā also became very afraid. 85 00:07:56,869 --> 00:08:04,538 Therefore Brahmā requested Prahlāda Mahārāja that “You go forward, 86 00:08:04,539 --> 00:08:09,038 my dear son, and appease the Lord. 87 00:08:09,039 --> 00:08:15,448 You can do because for you He has appeared in this fierceful feature. 88 00:08:15,449 --> 00:08:24,888 Your father offended Him in so many ways by teasing you, by punishing you, 89 00:08:24,889 --> 00:08:27,888 by putting you into difficulty. 90 00:08:27,889 --> 00:08:32,358 Therefore He has appeared in very angry. 91 00:08:32,359 --> 00:08:36,458 So you can appease Him. We cannot. 92 00:08:36,459 --> 00:08:40,118 It is not possible.” 93 00:08:40,119 --> 00:08:49,618 prahlāda preṣayām āsa brahma avasthita antike [SB 7.9.3] 94 00:08:49,619 --> 00:09:04,578 So Prahlāda Mahārāja, being very exalted devotee, he could appease the Lord. 95 00:09:04,579 --> 00:09:16,258 Bhaktyā, by bhakti, you can control the Supreme Lord. 96 00:09:16,259 --> 00:09:19,048 That is the only way. 97 00:09:19,049 --> 00:09:23,068 bhaktyā maṁ abhijānāti [Bg. 18.55] 98 00:09:23,069 --> 00:09:36,818 The understanding is also through bhakti, and through bhakti you can control God. 99 00:09:36,819 --> 00:09:43,538 vedeṣu durlabha adurlabha ātmā-bhaktau [Bs. 5.33] 100 00:09:43,539 --> 00:09:49,618 You cannot understand God by studying Vedas. 101 00:09:49,619 --> 00:09:53,629 Vedeṣu durlabha. 102 00:09:53,630 --> 00:09:56,499 Adurlabha ātmā-bhaktau. 103 00:09:56,500 --> 00:10:06,839 But for His devotees, He is very, very easily available. 104 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,949 Therefore bhakti is the only source. 105 00:10:09,950 --> 00:10:14,999 Bhaktyām ekayā grāhyam. 106 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,539 Only through bhakti you can approach, 107 00:10:19,540 --> 00:10:28,579 you can talk with God on equal level just like friend. 108 00:10:28,580 --> 00:10:39,179 The cowherd boys, they were treating Kṛṣṇa on the same status: “Kṛṣṇa is like us.” 109 00:10:39,180 --> 00:10:46,329 But they loved Kṛṣṇa very, very intensely. 110 00:10:46,330 --> 00:10:49,269 That is their qualification. 111 00:10:49,270 --> 00:10:57,269 Therefore Kṛṣṇa sometimes agreed to take the cowherd boys on His shoulder. 112 00:10:57,270 --> 00:11:06,939 So this is the… Kṛṣṇa wants that, that “My bhakta… Be My bhakta and control Me. 113 00:11:06,940 --> 00:11:11,649 Everyone worships Me with awe and veneration. 114 00:11:11,650 --> 00:11:16,099 I want somebody should come forward and control Me.” 115 00:11:16,100 --> 00:11:18,279 That He wants. 116 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:26,189 Therefore He has accepted mother Yaśodā to control Him. 117 00:11:26,190 --> 00:11:29,979 How God can be controlled? 118 00:11:29,980 --> 00:11:31,340 Īśvaraḥ paramaḥ kṛṣṇaḥ [Bs. 5.1]. 119 00:11:31,341 --> 00:11:33,830 He’s the supreme controller. 120 00:11:33,831 --> 00:11:35,150 Who can control Him? 121 00:11:35,151 --> 00:11:36,890 It is not possible. 122 00:11:36,891 --> 00:11:41,820 But He agrees to be controlled by His pure devotee. 123 00:11:41,821 --> 00:11:46,580 He agrees, “Yes, mother, you control Me. You bind Me. 124 00:11:46,581 --> 00:11:53,720 You show Me your stick so that I may be afraid.” So everything is there. 125 00:11:53,721 --> 00:11:59,840 Don’t think that God is zero. No. 126 00:11:59,841 --> 00:12:01,810 Śūnyavādi. 127 00:12:01,811 --> 00:12:03,240 Everything. 128 00:12:03,241 --> 00:12:08,840 janmādy asya yataḥ Athāto brahma jijñāsā [Vs 1.1.1-2] 129 00:12:08,841 --> 00:12:11,860 You are inquiring about Brahman. 130 00:12:11,861 --> 00:12:16,830 paraṁ brahma paraṁ dhāma pavitraṁ paramaṁ bhavān [Bg. 10.12] 131 00:12:16,831 --> 00:12:26,070 So there must be anger, not that God should be always peaceful. 132 00:12:26,071 --> 00:12:36,830 But the difference is His anger and His peaceful attitude produces the same result. 133 00:12:36,831 --> 00:12:40,440 Prahlāda Mahārāja, a devotee, 134 00:12:40,441 --> 00:12:48,197 He is very satisfied with Prahlāda Mahārāja and He is very much dissatisfied 135 00:12:48,198 --> 00:13:01,761 with his father, but result is the same: both of them got liberation. 136 00:13:01,762 --> 00:13:13,701 Although a devotee becomes associate whereas the demon who is killed by God, 137 00:13:13,702 --> 00:13:17,561 he does not become an associate… He is not qualified. 138 00:13:17,562 --> 00:13:21,381 But he enters into the spiritual kingdom. 139 00:13:21,382 --> 00:13:27,131 He gets liberation from this material bondage. 140 00:13:27,132 --> 00:13:38,081 So why a devotee should take the same position? Therefore, māṁ eti. 141 00:13:38,082 --> 00:13:43,821 tato māṁ tattvato jñātvā viśate tad-anantaram [Bg 18.55] 142 00:13:43,822 --> 00:13:50,771 They viśate, enters, enters in the spiritual kingdom. 143 00:13:50,772 --> 00:13:57,391 Everyone who is liberated, he is entered. 144 00:13:57,392 --> 00:14:02,192 brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā na śocati na kāṅkṣati 145 00:14:02,193 --> 00:14:05,771 samaḥ sarveṣu bhūteṣu mad-bhaktiṁ labhate… [Bg. 18.54] 146 00:14:05,772 --> 00:14:12,121 But those who are devotees, they are allowed to enter into the planet, 147 00:14:12,122 --> 00:14:17,561 Vaikuṇṭha planet or Goloka Vṛndāvana planet. 148 00:14:17,562 --> 00:14:24,771 In this way one gets his original position. 149 00:14:24,772 --> 00:14:35,342 But if we do not take to bhakti, then we may enter into the Brahman effulgence, 150 00:14:35,343 --> 00:14:41,102 but there is chance of falling down. 151 00:14:41,103 --> 00:14:50,792 āruhya kṛcchreṇa paraṁ padaṁ tataḥ patanty adho ’nādṛta-yusmad-aṅghrayaḥ [SB 10.2.32] 152 00:14:50,793 --> 00:15:01,302 So those who are impersonalist, they may enter into the spiritual kingdom. 153 00:15:01,303 --> 00:15:04,932 That is called paraṁ padaṁ. 154 00:15:04,933 --> 00:15:09,112 padaṁ padaṁ yad vipadāṁ na teṣām [10.14.58] 155 00:15:09,113 --> 00:15:12,662 But there is also chance of fall down. 156 00:15:12,663 --> 00:15:14,042 Āruhya kṛcchreṇa. 157 00:15:14,043 --> 00:15:23,832 After severe austerities and penances one can enter into the Brahman effulgence. 158 00:15:23,833 --> 00:15:32,262 But unless one gets information of the paraṁ padaṁ— 159 00:15:32,263 --> 00:15:36,330 samāśritā ye pada pallava plavam [SB 10.14.58] 160 00:15:36,331 --> 00:15:42,914 there is chance of falling down. In the material world there is 161 00:15:42,915 --> 00:15:45,112 bhūtvā bhūtvā pralīyate 162 00:15:45,113 --> 00:15:52,062 But in spiritual also, if you enter into the spiritual kingdom, 163 00:15:52,063 --> 00:15:57,622 from there also… Even sometimes it so happens. 164 00:15:57,623 --> 00:16:01,392 Of course, that is by God’s desire. 165 00:16:01,393 --> 00:16:03,802 Just like Jaya-Vijaya. 166 00:16:03,803 --> 00:16:06,892 They were personal associates. 167 00:16:06,893 --> 00:16:15,423 But the explanation is Kṛṣṇa wanted that “They should go…, the Hiraṇyakaśipu…, 168 00:16:15,424 --> 00:16:18,593 these two, Jaya-Vijaya, 169 00:16:18,594 --> 00:16:25,023 they should go to the material world, and I must fight with them.” 170 00:16:25,024 --> 00:16:30,783 Because that fighting, to become angry, that tendency is there. 171 00:16:30,784 --> 00:16:33,333 Where He will exhibit? 172 00:16:33,334 --> 00:16:41,563 In the Vaikuṇṭha there is no chance of exhibiting this anger and fighting. 173 00:16:41,564 --> 00:16:43,063 That is not possible. 174 00:16:43,064 --> 00:16:52,195 Therefore He induces His devotee to “Go to the material world 175 00:16:52,196 --> 00:16:56,903 and become My enemy, and I shall fight. 176 00:16:56,904 --> 00:17:00,663 I shall become angry,” because in the Vaikuṇṭha, 177 00:17:00,664 --> 00:17:03,623 spiritual kingdom, there is no chance. 178 00:17:03,624 --> 00:17:08,043 Everyone is serving; everyone is friendly. 179 00:17:08,044 --> 00:17:11,933 Some relation… Where is the question of fighting? 180 00:17:11,934 --> 00:17:15,153 But fighting spirit is there; anger is there. 181 00:17:15,154 --> 00:17:18,143 Where He shall exhibit? 182 00:17:18,144 --> 00:17:22,613 And therefore Kṛṣṇa incarnates, He becomes angry, 183 00:17:22,614 --> 00:17:28,173 and a devotee becomes enemy, and this is Kṛṣṇa-līlā, nitya-līlā. 184 00:17:28,174 --> 00:17:29,773 It is going on. 185 00:17:29,774 --> 00:17:38,980 Thank you very much 186 00:17:38,981 --> 00:17:38,982 Subtitles by Gopī Kāntā Dāsa, Causelessmercy.com Sponsored by Jitarati Dāsa & Pratyatoṣa Dāsa