Room Conversation Prabhupada: That is the same… Guest (1) (Indian man): Mayavadis may die like that, imagining… (Hindi) Ara saba bhrtya. Prabhupada: Yes. They are after, inquiring after Brahman, but nobody could give them. So they have got it. Now they are taking it. This is stage. (Hindi) That is the stage, sannyasa stage. So these hippies, they are also giving up all work, that is sannyasa, but there is no guide. There is no guide. And because they have no guide, therefore their intelligence is not being purified. Simply there is a propensity for renunciation, tyaga. But tyaga…(Hindi) After renunciation, what is the next stage, they do not know. That we are giving: “Yes, come here. Stand here.” (laughs) Is it not? Hamsaduta: Yes. Exactly. Prabhupada: They are very successful. They are standing: “We don’t want this.” But they must stand. So they could not give the standing. But here is… Oh, here is standing. Therefore this movement is successful. They want some standing. And where is the standing? (Hindi) So unless you get a solid ground you cannot stand. You’ll fall down. Guest (2) (Indian man): (Hindi) Prabhupada: Prabhavisnave namah. Kirata-hunandhra-pulin… Huh? (Hindi) [break] …obeisance to guru. Then his guru, then his guru, up to Krsna. (Hindi) …parampara system. You cannot directly approach God. That is useless. You have no power to approach God directly. That is not possible. Guru krsna krpaya. (Hindi) Let them study this philosophy. We have got books, enough books. One cannot read all these books even throughout whole life. [break] Guest (2): I am going to… Prabhupada: (Hindi) You do actually work. Guest (2): So I can also accompany certain places like… Prabhupada: You arrange. We can go there with all party. Now here in this part… You can get. This… Immediately we can go. From India… Guest (2): From India, yes. Prabhupada: We can go to Indonesia. Guest (2): At the end of March we can go there. Prabhupada: That’s all right. You also come. Arrange like that. After finishing our program in Simla, let us go to Indonesia. You do it. Guest (2): (indistinct) Prabhupada: That is a fact. At least at the present moment nobody can give better thing than what I am giving to the world. (Hindi) Guest (2): There are many things you can give us. I’ll arrange the tour. Prabhupada: You are present, a tourist program here? Guest (2): I was there. I… Prabhupada: So this program… Guest (2): I wanted to join with the camp in the public but nobody was convenienced… Prabhupada: No, you could have informed him. You could come to the pal… Anyway, next, next, tomorrow also we’ll have. Guest (2): I no way want to disturb… Hamsadutta: No, you won’t disturb. You’ll enhance us. Guest (2): Tomorrow I’ll come. Prabhupada: Where you are staying here? [break] …actually inquisitive, he’ll capture it. It is not the question of… Japan. [break] …personal ambition. It is service to Krsna. Krsna wants. Krsna says, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam [Bg. 18.66]. So we are canvassing. Guest (2): (indistinct) Prabhupada: That word, that brahma-jijnasa, that is the position of the whole world. Yes, that is the position. They have enough seen about this material nonsense. Now that is the position. They want to know what is this Brahman. Guest (2): It is called Treta-yuga. Prabhupada: No, this is not this yuga. This is called Kali-yuga. But… Then it will come, Satya-yuga. And that is long, long after, 400,000’s of years after. (laughs) Yes. Hare Krsna. Jaya. (end)
with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
December 17, 1970, Surat