Car Conversation from Airport
with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
July 3, 1975, Chicago

Brahmananda: (begins in car) …the sun is the center, in that way above the sun. [break]

Prabhupada: …is not center. It is above the sun. It has his own orbit.

Brahmananada: Oh. [break]

Prabhupada: Sun is situated in the middle of the universe. [break] …diameter of the universe is four billion or forty million? [break] Sun is situated 200 billion from the circumference of the universe. But the earth is between the sun and the circumference. Therefore it appears to be almost correct, 93 million. Apart from these differences, these people say there was no civilization before two thousand years?

Harikesa: Three thousand.

Prabhupada: Three thousand. [break] …this knowledge is there in the Bhagavatam, which was written in words five thousand years ago, but the knowledge was known millions and millions of years.

Harikesa: Some of the scholars say that because Lord Buddha is predicted in the Bhagavatam, that it proves that the Bhagavatam was written after Lord Buddha appeared.

Prabhupada: Buddha said like that?

Harikesa: The scholars, they say…

Brahmananda: They say it’s not possible to predict a person’s appearance.

Prabhupada: Huh?

Brahmananda: They say because it’s not possible by ordinary means to predict a person’s birth, because Lord Buddha is mentioned in Srimad-Bhagava…

Prabhupada: Still there is a science, Bhrgu-samhita, which will give you prediction of your next birth. Still there is science, Bhrgu-samhita. He’ll give you description of three lives: your past life, present life, and future life. Bhrgu-samhita. [break] …Bhagavata it is said bhavisyati. Kikatesu bhavisyati. Bhavisyati means “He will appear.” Why it is not possible? You haven’t got that knowledge, that is another thing. But it is possible. [break] …one word: tri-kala-jna. Tri-kala-jna means “one who knows past, present, and future.” Krsna says, vedaham samatitani. “I know everything past, present…”

Brahmananda: Equally, He says. Sama titani. He knows the past, the present and the future.

Prabhupada: And He says in another place, “It is not that we were not existing in the past, and neither it is that we shall not exist in the future.” So this is past, present, future. Tri-kala-jna. So we are not going to the temple?

Sri Govinda: Oh, yes. [break]