Morning Walk Conversation
with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
July 31, 1975, Dallas

Brahmananda: …hired these gangsters, professional gangsters to do this. So now one of these gangsters, he was to give testimony, and now he was killed. So they’re thinking maybe the CIA also is doing that.

Prabhupada: And who is advising CIA?

Brahmananda: The president. Nixon used to use the CIA to… If he had any enemy, he would have the CIA investigate that man. He was using it for his personal political purposes. [break] …testing. In the early 1960’s they were testing the effects of LSD, and so they gave LSD secretly into this one officer’s coffee drink. And he drank it. He did not know it was LSD, and he went crazy and committed suicide. So now this investigation of CIA has uncovered this information. So now the family of this officer, they are suing the CIA for millions of dollars. [break] … regular business of breaking into foreign embassies. In New York and Washington they did over 1500 break- ins, photographing documents, stealing coding machines. Sometimes when they would break in at night into one embassy, they would meet agents of another country who also were breaking into the same embassy, and they would salute one another. (laughter) It’s a regular business.

Prabhupada: They will not kill each other?

Brahmananda: No, they respected one another because they were both after the same embassy. [break]

Prabhupada: …black government is going on all over the world. What they will think of people’s welfare?

Brahmananda: They are all against us.

Prabhupada: Simply political gain. [break]

Jagadisa: …back to the temple we’ll be performing aratik to Your Divine Grace. And there was not very much time. I was wondering whether during the time we’re performing aratik to you, whether it’s proper to be giving out cookies to the children?

Prabhupada: As you make convenient.

Jagadisa: Is that proper?

Prabhupada: No. So we can go back now. Again program. [break] .now?

Jagadisa: 6:30.

Prabhupada: Yes. [break] I am not feeling very well. Last yesterday also. Heaviness. I am not clearing my bowels very nicely.

Jagadisa: Is it due to the heat, Srila Prabhupada?

Prabhupada: I do not know why but I am not… Constipation? And now I’m feeling headache, some spasm.

Jagadisa: Should we cancel the trip this morning? [break]

Prabhupada: …very hot place. So every year I used to resolute, “Now I shall give up this place,” every year. So I was going Kashmir, Darjeeling. Bhavani, that is near Nainital. [break]

Brahmananda: …just in the hot climate. In the hot climate it is more difficult to digest?

Prabhupada: Maybe.

Brahmananda: Because here it is much hotter than it was in California.

Jagadisa: The prasadam you’re getting is all right, Srila Prabhupada?

Prabhupada: Not very all right. Constantly change of hand is not good.

Brahmananda: Yes. Upendra can cook for you? Just like Srutakirti, he used to use the cooker. He would put up the vegetables and then give massage. And then after massage he would just chaunce the vegetables. He was able to do everything himself.

Prabhupada: Yes. Everyone was doing that. So we shall go or wait?

Satsvarupa: After New Orleans, all your stops are in northern. Detroit and Canada. It won’t be so hot.

Prabhupada: No, now what is the time?

Devotees: Twenty to seven.

Prabhupada: So we shall wait or shall go?

Jagadisa: Well, I’ve sent the others on ahead to let them know that we’ll be early. So it should be all right.

Prabhupada: What is the scheduled time?

Jagadisa: The Deities usually are opened at 7:10.

Prabhupada: Oh. So we shall wait or go?

Jagadisa: Either way.

Brahmananda: What about we go and have the aratik first?

Jagadisa: Yes.

Brahmananda: And then after the aratik, the curtains can be opened. Then Prabhupada could speak. And after speaking, give out the beads. Because we have to… [break]

Satsvarupa: Can we go now?

Jagadisa: Yes.

Prabhupada: (in car:) Why money? “No. Because I will be able to satisfy my senses more and more.” This is the whole civilization. They have no other aim, no other ideas. “How to get money?”

Brahmananda: Another thing that is difficult for health is the constant flying in jet plane. (end)