Morning Walk Conversation
with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
October 29, 1975, Nairobi

Prabhupada: Harav abhaktasya kuto mahad-guna mano-rathenasato dhavato bahih [SB 5.18.12]. Nondevotees, they are simply pulled on by the mental speculation: “This will be very nice. This will be very nice.” Mano rathena on the chariot of mind… Asatah, material. Asat means material, “that will not exist.” They will be busy in such things. Real, eternal necessity, they’ll not be interested. They do not know. “Now, this beautiful city, it is my city, my country. Everything all right.” But he has no knowledge that “After fifty years, when I shall die, where will be my city next?” That he does not know. For the time being, I shall be able to live here for twenty-five years or fifty years. That’s all right. And next time, where I am going… A commonsense affair.

Cyavana: That’s a third-class mentality, to be satisfied with that city…,

Prabhupada: Temporary…

Cyavana: Simply to have a city and be satisfied.

Prabhupada: That’s all.

Cyavana: Third-class mentality.

Prabhupada: Yes. He’s eternal. He does not know his eternal necessity. This is called ignorance. [break] You brought that sitting mat?

Brahmananda: Use our chaddars. (end)