Morning Walk Conversation Prabhupada: Hm? Gopala Krsna: That new Gurukula picture that they had sent you in Illinois near Chicago? They have taken that. Brahmananda: It’s a military school. Gopala Krsna: A military school. Prabhupada: Oh. Military school or military barracks? Brahmananda: No, a military school. Prabhupada: What is the price? Gopala Krsna: 420,000…? Brahmananda: Four fifty. Prabhupada: So they have paid? Gopala Krsna: They are going to pay 150,000 in January. It looks perfect for Gurukula. Prabhupada: How far? It is in Chicago? Brahmananda: It’s about, I think, an hour and a half from Chicago by car. Prabhupada: Oh. It is a village. Brahmananda: Yes. Prabhupada: [break] …the description? Brahmananda: Yes. Prabhupada: There are many buildings? Brahmananda: Oh, there’s about nine buildings. There’s a main administration building and classroom building. There is two new buildings. One is a dining hall that seats two hundred. Prabhupada: (to passerby) Hare Krsna. Gopala Krsna: [break] …the Gujaratis would never keep dogs but now… Prabhupada: Now they are becoming civilized. (laughter) Advanced. [break] Therefore I made this trust: fifty percent, fifty percent. Brahmananda: So there will always be money for purchasing. Prabhupada: Yes. And because we are doing that, Krsna is giving us facility. [break] …ning how much difficulty we had. We could not purchase that house, number sixty street? Brahmananda: Yes. That was a hundred thousand dollars, that house. Prabhupada: No, no. Not hundred. Sixty. Sixty thousand dollars. Sixty thousand dollars, and still, we could not. Another attempt was made to purchase that bank building. So we had no money, only five thousand, and that was also taken away. [break] Indian man (1): Do you believe in these (Hindi) and everything? Prabhupada: Eh? Indian man (1): (Hindi) Prabhupada: Yes. Why not? Indian man (1): Do you believe? Prabhupada: Why not? There are many grhastha devotees. Here is grhastha devotee. Indian man (1): Thank you. Prabhupada: Hare Krsna. [break] …which you want to set up, they are available, ready-made? Saurabha: Some of them are ready, but we need about a hundred, so I don’t think there will be one hundred ready. But if the order is placed in advance, then they will… Prabhupada: Eh? Saurabha: If the order is placed in advance, then they will start making immediately. They can do that very fast. Prabhupada: So whatever ready-made we can purchase? Saurabha: Well, it has to be the proper size also. Prabhupada: Oh, yes. Yes. They can do it. Saurabha: They have many men. They can very quickly carve those. Prabhupada: Yes. Brahmananda: What is it you were saying? Saurabha: Well, it’s… Fixing has to be done. Brahmananda: Domes? Saurabha: Domes, yes. Also the time will go in the domes. Prabhupada: Eh? Saurabha: Lot of time will go in the domes because there’s many, many towers. Pillars is not so difficult. [break] …two men have been making sketches on different designs for panels and columns, and as soon as you decide to pay, then they can start work immediately. Prabhupada: So we have decided. Do it. Saurabha: Yes. It takes them about ten more days, fourteen days to get the drawings done. It will be all done in Makrana. They carve it there. They won’t do it here. And then they bring it. Only small carvings will be done. There they have all facilities and many, many people. Prabhupada: Yes. They have kaligarhs. (?) Saurabha: Very quickly that will be done. Vipramukhya: [break] Would you like to have a temple established in every village? Prabhupada: Yes. Vipramukhya: Island temple that you did not want to have a temple in every village right now. Prabhupada: I did not say anything about Long Island. Vipramukhya: You’d like many temples, one in every village. Prabhupada: Yes. Caitanya Mahaprabhu has said. [break] Vipramukhya: …bring Krsna consciousness to the people, they don’t have to travel long distances to the temples. Prabhupada: Yes. [break] …fast, these birds. Airplane cannot do that. Lokanatha: How do they decide the direction and they turn all together? Prabhupada: Huh? Lokanatha: How they turn all together and how do they communicate each other that “Yes, let’s move out away”? Prabhupada: Yes, they have got intelligence. You are thinking that they have no intelligence. They have got complete intelligence. Lokanatha: They have, but how do they all together decide to either turn right or left or… Prabhupada: That is intelligence. You do not know that. If you are given airplane, so many, you’ll, immediately at least half a dozen will be finished. (laughter) That means you are less intelligent than the birds, at least in the matter of flying. Indian man (3): (Hindi) [break] Prabhupada: …you wanted to construct apartment house. Is it possible to do now? Saurabha: No. Prabhupada: Why? Saurabha: Because we don’t have the required garden space yet. We have to break down the huts in the back. There’s some hutments there, and unless those are removed, we cannot do any other construction. Prabhupada: No. We can make plan including hut but we can begin. Saurabha: Then we are short of S of I.(?) We don’t have. All these houses have to be broken down to get more space and also the sufficient S of I to plan the building. Prabhupada: But we have got sufficient S of I. Saurabha: Yes, but we need… We require a certain area for garden, and that is not there yet. Minimum garden has to be, and we have about three-quarter of that. So unless you make another garden first, we cannot make, according to the architects. But maybe with, er, by paying some money in advance, that we promise them that, say, after so much time we will break these houses down, then they may agree, like they agreed on the old house that we had to pay six hundred rupees, and as soon as we break the house down we get six hundred rupees back. Then they know that we will break it down. Prabhupada: Which one? Saurabha: The old house. Prabhupada: Oh, old house. Saurabha: Otherwise they won’t allow us to build a temple so close to that place. The same problem is with those hutment. In order to build the building they have be moved or we have to promise them that within a certain time we will break them down. Giriraja: If we keep the garden around the back of the temple and the front. Remember we discussed that? Saurabha: Yes. We have to… But as long as that house is there, we can’t do that. The old house is there too. Giriraja: We’ve already agreed to remove the old house. Saurabha: Yes, but one has to have the open area as garden in order to do that. Giriraja: So in the layout there’s room. Saurabha: Yes, but it’s not there yet. You either have to break down the old house or the hutment. But it may be now, because the situation is more favorable, that they allow, that they believe us. We can try it. We will make a design for the whole building. Prabhupada: Yes. Including that… And request them to come to our, one of the top floor. And as soon as the building is… They’ll… In this way. [break] Saurabha: …plan and we make everything to submit to the municipality and then we will hear from them what is required and we will try to do that, whatever they want. Prabhupada: Yes. Saurabha: Now there is two things. We can make big apartments for which most people are anxious actually. Prabhupada: What is that? Saurabha: Those apartment buildings. Make them very opulent and big. They want… Some people told me they like to have apartments of 2,000 square feet for one apartment. It should have four big rooms, a kitchen, everything, very opulent. Like this we can have on one floor two of them. We can have 4,000 square feet on one floor. It is possible. Prabhupada: Do that. Do. Saurabha: And then we make five like this, six, five or six. Then put… For those buildings one can get about 150. I think here at least 150 rupees per square foot minimum. I think it will… By the time we are having it built there’ll be more. Prabhupada: So try for that. Saurabha: Some buildings, it’s already 175. Build a parlor so that each… Prabhupada: The tenants will advance money. If you open office they will pay advance. You can go on constructing. If not, we shall take money from Bank of America. [break] Saurabha: …make a parking under the building. Prabhupada: Huh? Saurabha: Take this building. Lease parking space under there. Prabhupada: Yes. Every one of them like that. Saurabha: The building will be about big like this, this size. Prabhupada: So do it. [break] …please come and take prasadam. (kirtana) Hare Krsna. Make a plan here? Saurabha: This one. The other one is very complicated with very big… It’s got wood, very big columns. (end)
with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
November 15, 1975, Bombay