Room Conversation
with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
October 6, 1977, Vrndavana

Prabhupada: Of course, if I die, there is nothing to be ruined. You are all participants. So organize this farm project, simple living. Human life is meant for God realization. Try to help them. This is my…

Paramananda: We’re always feeling your presence very strongly, Srila Prabhupada, simply by your teachings and your instructions. We’re always meditating on your instructions.

Prabhupada: Thank you. That is the real presence. Physical presence is not important.

Tamala Krsna: Srila Prabhupada? Mother Satyabhama, she wrote a short note to you. Should I read it to you?

Prabhupada: Um hm.

Tamala Krsna: She said, “Dear Srila Prabhupada, please accept my most humble obeisances. All glories to Your Divine Grace. This shawl is made of the wool from our own sheep, spun and woven here at Gita-nagari. It is the first piece we have made. While I was working on it I would always think of you, of how I was supposedly making you a gift. But actually you are giving me the gift of engagement in devotional service. Srila Prabhupada, I always pray to Lord Nrsimhadeva to protect you and allow you to stay with us to finish your books. But I think today the rain falling from the sky is actually the tears of the demigods, crying at the prospect of your departure. I am also crying. Even Krsna cried at the passing of Grandfather Bhisma, so I have a right to cry. I cannot be so philosophical to say that you are always present in your books and teachings, though I know these things are true. I will miss you so much, Srila Prabhupada, if you go. I beg that I may always remain your menial servant and devotee. Your humble disciple, Satyabhama dasi.”

Prabhupada: Thank to her. Made with our wool.

Tamala Krsna: So you’ll take rest now, Srila Prabhupada?

Prabhupada: Um hm. This can be on the foot. Yes. Up.

Tamala Krsna: Is it warm?

Prabhupada: Hm, very nice. Very comfortable. Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna… Made with our wool.

Tamala Krsna: Would you like a little sweet singing, Srila Prabhupada? (kirtana begins) [break]

Prabhupada: (Bengali conversation) Why not consult with father and son?

Tamala Krsna: Which one is that?

Prabhupada: The father’s name is…

Sac-cid-ananda: Harinam Place?

Tamala Krsna: Harinam Place?

Sac-cid-ananda: His one son is doctor. Raman Medical Store in Loi Bazaar, near Post office.

Tamala Krsna: He’s a doctor, famous doctor. Cures people.

Sac-cid-ananda: He has medical store.

Tamala Krsna: I don’t advise it, Srila Prabhupada. I don’t think it’s a good idea to do. Because I don’t see why we don’t consult all twenty thousand doctors. I mean, why is he… Sac-cid-ananda just happened to be… He goes to the shop and he sees the man’s shop. Why not wait for Dr. Ghosh or call Dr. Ghosh here? I mean, what I’m trying to say is that if I go to Mathura, I’ll also pass many medical shops, so I could consult any one of those men, probably, just as well.

Sac-cid-ananda: That’s a fact.

Tamala Krsna: That’s a fact, huh.

Prabhupada: They have got good practice.

Tamala Krsna: Because Vrndavana is small, so everyone has to go to whoever is the doctor here.

Prabhupada: Hm.

Tamala Krsna: They are kaviraji or allopathic?

Sac-cid-ananda: He also both using, kaviraji also.

Tamala Krsna: He’s both. He says can do either one with him. You can take allopathic or kaviraja. He gives both. Whatever the patient likes. Right?

Sac-cid-ananda: He is making some kaviraja also medicines.

Prabhupada: His father practices haikin.(?) And the son practices…

Tamala Krsna: Allopathic. I think we’re letting ourselves in for trouble when we call these doctors.

Prabhupada: Hm?

Tamala Krsna: My personal opinion is that when you call these doctors, you’re simply letting…, we are simply letting ourselves in for more trouble, because they’re not going to study the case very carefully. They’re just going to start prescribing. Your case is so delicate that the slightest wrong diagnosis and medicine causes havoc.

Prabhupada: No, they have good practice.

Tamala Krsna: But the same thing, as they were recommended, similarly, this kaviraja in Bombay was recommended. We can call him, but…

Prabhupada: Consult him.

Tamala Krsna: I’ve lost hope with these doctors, Srila Prabhupada. I’ll consult if you insist, but I… I mean… I’ve lost hope.

Prabhupada: And they know me also very well.

Tamala Krsna: So you want me to bring them here?

Prabhupada: No, he’ll bring.

Tamala Krsna: He can bring them here, and then they can examine you.

Prabhupada: Yes.

Tamala Krsna: All right. You think you can bring the father and son here? All right. You think you can bring them this evening? This afternoon or evening?

Sac-cid-ananda: At four o’clock.

Tamala Krsna: You’ll leave here at four o’clock?

Sac-cid-ananda: What time is it?

Tamala Krsna: Now it is ten past three. You’ll leave at four, and they’ll get here by 4:35. That’s all right. That’s a good time. Let us see, Srila Prabhupada. Maybe they can… I mean I’m just not a blind follower of these doctors anymore. Experience makes one… No harm in their coming, especially if they know you, Srila Prabhupada.

Prabhupada: They know me very well.

Tamala Krsna: Sometimes you were doing business with them?

Prabhupada: No, no. As Vrndavana inhabitant. This father came to speak here last year.

Tamala Krsna: Oh. Should I send another telegram for Bhakti-caru? I think it might be helpful. Because more than likely, whichever doctors come, they speak Hindi or Bengali. I think it would be helpful to have him here.

Prabhupada: Simple… (end)